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Roulette Making a simple system based on statistical data

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So in the other thread - how would we approach playing streets
    knowing what data they produce.

    (what I would do)

    So step 1 would be running off spins of 12 and taking note of the number of streets
    that appeared and the number of streets that didn't. It doesn't take long to come up with
    reliable values.

    run...shows...no shows
    1...7...5
    2...8...4
    3...8...4
    4...7...5
    5...10...2
    6...9...3
    7...9...3
    8...10...2
    9...7...5
    10..7...5
    11..6...6
    12..7...5
    13..8...4
    14..7...5
    15..6...6
    16..9...3
    17..8...4
    18..8...4
    19..7...5
    20..8...4
    21..9...3
    22..8...4
    23..9...3
    24..10...2
    25..7...5
    26..8...4
    27..8...4
    28..7...5
    29..9...3
    30..8...4
    .....7.96.....4.04

    So of course this all fits with the Law of Thirds (or whatever it's now called)
    which misfits say doesn't exist - but there it is... but it doesn't exist.
    24 numbers appearing in a cycle (2/3ish)
    in this case the exact same thing - 8 streets appear (24) and 4 don't.
    Same thing, same thing that doesn't exist I suppose.

    Anyway -
    step 2)

    Take this information on the 12th spin that we can pretty much rely on 8...4
    and run off spins.
    Stop on the 11th spin (not the 12th)
    In this case I just ran off 11 spins and it's 6 appearances and 6 no shows.
    Common sense now - knowing the "on average" result at spin 12....
    I'll bet one of the 6 no-shows will appear.
    It can't come close to the data of 8...4 without one appearing because we are 6...6
    So I'll bet the no-shows.
    Win (as expected) and that cycle completes at 7...5

    Another 11 spins I run off and I have 7...5 results. The data says after the next
    spin I can expect on average 8...4
    so once again I'll bet on the no-shows.
    Loss - and that cycle ends at 6...6

    Another 11 spins I run off and I have 7...5 again.
    Again I bet the no-shows.
    Loss - and that cycle ends at 7...5 (this happens because of how the past spins came out)

    Another 11 spins and I have 6...6
    Again I bet the no-shows.
    Win

    Another 11 spins and I have 7...5
    Again the no-shows
    Loss

    Another 11 spins and I have 8...4
    Now this is what I expect after 12 spins - so I wouldn't bet on the no-shows,
    I would bet on the ones that have appeared.
    Win

    Another 11 spins and I have 8...4
    Same as last time, bet the ones that have appeared.
    Win

    Another 11 spins and I have 7...5
    I'm betting the no-shows
    Loss

    Another 11 spins and I have 8...4 (bet ones that appeared)
    Win

    Another 11 - 8...4 (bet ones that appeared)
    Win

    Another 11 - 8...4 (same)
    Win

    Another 11 - 7...5 (bet the no-shows)
    Win

    Another 11 - 8...4 (bet ones that appeared)
    Loss

    Another 11 - 8...4
    Win

    Another 11 - 9...3
    Win

    Another 11 - 8...4
    Loss

    Another 11 - 8...4
    Win

    etc.

    Now I'll do this in RX and post results flat betting.
    (I wouldn't suggest flat betting, as the amount of numbers you are playing
    should be relevant to how many units you play on each).
    To figure out how much (units) to bet -
    If the goal is to make it as equal as possible.
    if playing 4 spots and a win happens then we're +11
    if playing the opposite (so 8 numbers) and a win happens then we're +4
    This would have to be charted so that regardless of the amount of locations
    you are playing, the bet will adjust accordingly.
    It wouldn't make sense to risk more that is required.
    But for this example - flat betting on RX single 0 wheel.

    [​IMG]

    (Is that better ?)

    My run for the example produced 11 wins to 6 losses (above in the explanation)
    My RX run produced 11 wins to 3 losses.
    22 wins and 9 losses total
    You could use this info to make a progression - or make it balanced as I mentioned above
    in the event that losing sessions come back to back to back which can always happen.

    Cheers.
     
  2. Bitrock06

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    Love the disclaimer. Now they can't bitch. A boy can dream lol
     
  3. stringbeanpc

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    Turbo thanks for the explanation

    Very similar to what I was thinking, where you use show/no show I was using F0/F1/F2

    Would you recommend using the show/no show on a rolling cycle basis such as this example ?

    bet on spin 13 is determined by show/no shows from previous 11 spins 02 to 12
    bet on spin 14 is determined by show/no shows from previous 11 spins 03 to 13
    bet on spin 15 is determined by show/no shows from previous 11 spins 04 to 14

    etc

    I will test and find out.
     
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    This week is the most active Ive seen you post in a row - its refreshing to see you active!
    Good keep em coming and thank you for the examples
     
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    Turbo I would love to see a great even money strategy .
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

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    For EVEN MONEY I got 6 different betting strategies .
     
  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    To me, this is hardest location to bet on.
    I'm sure Nathan has great ways of playing that - I'd ask him.

    When you have the same bet up to 17 or 18 in a row happening,
    you have back and forth results also R B R B R B R B
    there are streaks and chops, nothing that happens as you play points to either being a benefit to
    bet on...
    There's nothing there that can be exploited, it's just a guess.
    The more spins that roll out, the better of a prediction you can make - but on the inside bets (opinion).

    My only suggestion might be to keep track of them and then either bet against a sequence repeating
    in order or bet for a set to complete before the others, etc.
     
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  8. Nathan Detroit

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    ................... that`s the way it is with Even Chances the way Turbo explained it .



    ND
     
  9. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Maybe (thinking out loud)
    Use the "random has limits" approach on even money
    and play the combination that has not appeared in the longest amount of time.
    (a la "farthest back" and "SSLA" Spins since last appeared)
     
  10. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    At the risk of having stones thrown at me - this is the first test session I did
    using Farthest Back on even money bets.
    Remember the disclaimer that nothing wins and playing roulette is downright dangerous.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Anybody know how this would be played, never heard of SSLA spins since last appeared, Farthest back would be just which even chance won the farthest back so if history is RBBBB you would be currently betting Red is this right
     
  12. TurboGenius

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    They are basically the same thing.
    Spins Since Last Appeared is putting the outcomes in order so you see which are "Farthest BacK"
    Your example is right RBBBB would be a bet on a red number.
    If Odd was farther back than Even then it's a bet on red, odd numbers
    If Low was farther back than High then it's a bet on the red, odd, low numbers (1,3,5,7,9)
    That's all I did - flat betting only.

    I skipped 10 spins between sessions because if you don't - you'll end up betting on only two sets over and over and this doesn't make sense. So you sort of have to skip a few spins between sessions to avoid this conundrum.
     
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  13. TurboGenius

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    I know it was supposed to be a "even money" bet selection - but in reality this is.
    If you were to bet on "Red" for example at 1:1 then you are exactly doing the same
    as betting on all red numbers 1/18th unit. There's no difference at all whatsoever.
    If you're plan calls for betting Odd and Low and Red then you can simply bet on the numbers.
    (for example)
    Yes, some groups have more numbers than other groups. I just flat bet them.
    So instead of placing 3 bets (on 3 even money locations paying 1:1), I'm playing
    the same bets but on the numbers (5 bets) and winning 35 to 1 minus the losing 4 bets.
     
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  14. TurboGenius

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    Waiting until one of each even money bet have "slept" for at least 3 spins each.
    Flat bet only.
    [​IMG]
     

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    Turbo, that disclaimer is keeping the misfits at Bay...
     
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    The misfits are spending their time make money in casinos. Not wasting it with retarded graphs on a gambling forum all day.
     
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    Better yet, not spending a dime anymore on roulette untill someone will prove it will make you money everytime you play. Until then, i will stay away as far s i can from those light districts :)
     
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    Will never throw stones at you ed, you don't deserve that. Like i said before, you helped out alot by letting me look different at the game instead of bein' a static player. But that does 't mean i can't disagree! I found out that at the end of it all, you are back at 1:37 no matter what method or system you play.
    Short winning sessions are great, but only for as long as they last. When the coin turns, you will have a bad trip. Playing logicly (not throwing chips all over the table) can make you a winner, in the short term. But the question will always be, will i have the same luck tomorrow??? that's a question i don't want to ask myselg anymore. It brings alot of stress. And it takes away all the fun you had the night before. You can't keep preaching that you can play and always win, no matter how many sessions you play, it just isn't possible. If you call me a misfit, fine. Prove us wrong. If you can show us one method, one system, that will always 100% grand us a min. of 1u profit in 8 hours (480 spins) of bm play and explain the math behind it,i will salute to you and will shut up forever, and i'm sure all you call misfits will do the same. But you can't. Again, for the sake of it, prove us wrong please. this has been dragging on too long.
     
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    Ahhh, the gambler's fallacy; it's the gift that keeps on giving.
     
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    Look, i can play and also have a great chart.
    Playing only 1 number all the time.
    When i sit at the table, the first number that comes out will be my number for the entire session.
    Method:
    * 1 number only.
    * 37 spin sessions
    * no show in 37 spins (raise one unit)
    * 1 show in 37 spins (we keep the betting amount the same)
    * 2 or more shows in 37 spins (we lower our bets with 1, or back to 1 wich you prefer)
    No this is all fine and dandy, but what is the math behind this? who tells me, i get the exact same chart (always in profit at one point) next time i play?
     

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