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Baccarat Million Dollar Baccarat seminar

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by albalaha, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Yeah we've probably both had enough of "those conversations" to last a lifetime.

    Know I mean well, and I'm no troll. If I am if have permanently misplaced my bridge...

    A stroke of the brush does not guarantee art from the bristles...~Kosh​
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I see that you are writer and a gambler.

    I've spent decades learning what does not work, a very common story. I asked some guy what works. "How do do this stuff?" It was 30 years ago. He said "bet big when you are doing good and bet small when it is anything else." This method allows you to lose the number of bets that you are supposed to lose and still come out ahead.

    So I turned it into a science and came up with a way to detect currently occurring good patches from multiple sources of information. It's still just that simple approach. Bet big when you are doing good. I still lose the number of bets that I should from the independence of the game's odds and payouts. I just make money anyway. It's so simple. People always think there is some complicated way to win. It must be some secret that professionals know.
     
  3. Myron

    Myron New Member

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    Is anybody out there wants to sell a copy of MDB strategy. How much would it cost?
     
  4. samc

    samc Member

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    There's some upgrade version of MDB, just add a few more rules to the old one. follow it exacly you will loose 1 million quick
     
  5. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The MDB is missing two important key parameters.
    When you identify two series of two and targeting one will become three in a row with one of the three future events - here you need to identify with a window of events, the chain reaction of random bits - here I use the three sequential windows favouring the situation.

    Lets say i get singles and series of three or higher BBB P B P B PPPPPPP B P BBB P BBB then this sequence will end with a series of two.
    When it does you have two things that can happen, either you get a series of three or a single and series of two or a triplet.
    Now is this sequence qualities follows with a sequence with singles and two series of two, then you can bet that the sequential window will get a series of three or higher for three attempts?
    You have a sequence with qualities that will repeat at your random bits universe, there will be several windows with the same qualities.
    Follow the random universe chain reaction and not blindly jump in and out with no understanding of the random unvierse.

    Here is a sample from today's random org (no curve fitting) ...
    Sputnik's March

    Here are your random numbers:

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    1 Triplet, no bet

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    1 Series of three and higher, no bet

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    2 Triplet, no bet

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    2 Singles and series of two, no bet

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    1 Triplet, no bet

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    2 singles and series of three and higher, no bet

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    1 Single and series of two (trigger) bet

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    2 WIN
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    2 Singles and series of three and higher, no bet

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    1 Tiplet, no bet

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    2 Tiplet, No bet

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    1 Series of two and series of three and higher, no bet

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    2 Singles and series of two (trigger) bet
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    1 WIN
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    And so on it continues ...


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    Timestamp: 2020-11-25 15:15:45 UTC
     
  6. Roubacc

    Roubacc Active Member

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    WOW, 3 pages of discussion on MDB, and not a single person has mentioned or given credit to the person that came up with it. His name is Ellis Clifton Davis. I was a member of that forum when he was the instructor. That was about 5 years ago. The one thing that was never taken into consideration is the psychological aspect of the progression. Most players would shit in their pants if they had to go from making a $25 bet to $100 bet, then 200,500 etc. The increases are way to steep. Don’t waste your time on MDB, if you’re only looking to make 5 units a shoe, there are better ways to play.
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2020
  7. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Rubbish, Is not anyone system, betting against two's in different ways has to exist for ages.
    And if you narrow down a gamblers knowledge it becomes silly to give someone credit.
    All system exist in different ways and using different triggers and explore the random bits with different strategies.

    If you see BB play P three times
    Same as
    If you see PP play B three times

    Using series instead is not anything revolutionary.

    Cheers
     
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  8. Roubacc

    Roubacc Active Member

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    Sputnik, you may not know who I am but I do know who YOU are. You were a new member at that forum in 2015 when MDB was introduced by Ellis. It was HIS idea. Don’t make it yours or anyone elses.At the time you were the newbie on the block. You were just getting your feet wet. Now all of a sudden you don’t want to give credit where credit is due. That’s not cool.
     
  9. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Hi, I do not claim that I or any other come up with the idea, I know the way Ellis tackle two's was he's a unique idea.
    But I am saying there have been existing other ways that are similar or same.

    There is as many series of two's as there is series of three and higher, 50/50
    And playing against series of two is an old way to tackle even money.

    You misunderstand me, the point i try to make is that there is no much new under the sun other then variations of old known methods.

    Cheers
     

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