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Blackjack Moses

Discussion in 'Blackjack Forum' started by Tater, Dec 7, 2021.

  1. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    KJ writes; I never even knew what the bug up Moses's (or Tater) ass really was about until this week, when he revealed that I challenged him on Norm's blackjack forum when he showed up 8 years ago. So I went back and looked. Moses showed up claiming to be a professional blackjack player, playing Reno of all places. I simply said that is impossible. I knew Reno, I played Reno several times a year, and there are no professional players playing Reno, because Reno will not allow a player to get any real stakes down except for short periods like maybe a couple weekend nights a year. The Idea of a player playing Reno on a regular basis, with any kind of decent stakes, so as to make a living was and still is ridiculous. So that is what I said. It wasn't personal to Moses, just a fact.

    Now Moses did and still does have a lot of blackjack knowledge about playing a single deck game (Reno) that I don't have. I don't play the single deck game. He just could not have been playing the limits he claimed, nor be a professional player.

    So it turns out in the last couple months, Moses revealed his name and where he lived and that he has played blackjack for the last 10 years in Reno making a total of 100k. That averages out to 10k a year. That is low limit red chip play. Almost the exact same amounts I made playing redchip in Atlantic city my first 3 years. My Point: Turns out I was exactly right. Again, I wasn't attacking Moses. I was just saying what Reno is and what a player can play if he plays on a regular basis.

    So that is what the whole feud with Moses is/was about. All the trolling, lying, following my around forums, name calling, stalking me off forum to my home. Because I dared say what he said couldn't be true and why.

    KJ essay are so long it's almost impossible to answer.

    I'm not homeless
    I'm not on SSI
    Never played red chip tables after 2013
    I made enough playing green chip to pay some bills
    NEVER went to Las Vegas after March 2016
    Never been to his residence
    NEVER been detained by Security or police
    I don't know KJ real name. But I'm trying like he'll to find it.
    Now I can't play because KJ ratted me out. In addition to these other lies.
     
  2. Tater

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    I may get deeper into the strategy of my success.

    It is not as difficult as some may think. It's just KJ can't comprehend it, so he goes off half cocked and starts with his lies. His lack of education is not my problem. But his non ending stack of lies is a problem for all forums.
     
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    KJ writes: So it turns out in the last couple months, Moses revealed his name and where he lived and that he has played blackjack for the last 10 years in Reno making a total of 100k. That averages out to 10k a year. That is low limit red chip play. Almost the exact same amounts I made playing redchip in Atlantic city my first 3 years. My Point: Turns out I was exactly right. Again, I wasn't attacking Moses. I was just saying what Reno is and what a player can play if he plays on a regular basis.

    Tater says: The little prick kept asking me what I make. So this is the answer I gave him. It could be more or it could be less. Blackjack was a part of my income. I play regular but table selection was a big key. Unlike KJ, I don't know or care what a player can make. Most will lose their ass like KJ did without a sound strategy and consistent approach. Calm, cool, collective. KJ fails because he lacks the 3 C's.
    Plus he isn't very bright.
     
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  4. Tater

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    KJ writes: stalking me off forum to my home.

    Tater says: The is a 100% complete lie. No proof. Only hearsay by KJ the drama queen
    He can't beat me so he lies. I've call the LVMPD and the complex it was stated where he lives.

    Neither have heard of me, laugh at such an event. This is biggie which obviously speaks to KJ's complete lack of credibility.
     
  5. Tater

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    So the column count for any who is interested.

    I read Edwin Thorpe's book back in the 80's. He spoke about ratios of 10's versus other cards in the deck. Now, back in his day, he could beat the game with a large bet spread and a deeply dealt game.

    However, they put a clamp on bet spreads and getting 6 rounds in a straight up game is considered good. So I took Thorpe's method and developed a column count of 2-5s and 6-9s.
    1) this will reveal some hit or stand opportunities that would otherwise be a lost hand. However, this can lead to preferential shuffling if you do it too often.
    2.) This is the part KJ or few get. You make money with fewer large bets. Hence, yes the deck could be rich in tens, but also rich in 6-9s.
    So you pass and wait. Of course if 10's come out in the next round, you missed an opportunity. But if 6-9s come out in the round, you have a great opportunity on the next round.

    However, waiting for the game to come to you takes an extreme amount of patience. CV Data was a handy tool as I changed columns to get more bang for my time. Not necessarily my buck.

    Eventually, I used CV Data and sort of combined Don S and Edwin Thorpe knowledge and strategies. I came up with a percentage count.

    That was the ticket to play within casino tolerance with limited variance. Until KJ fucked it up. I may write more on the percentage count later.
     
  6. KewlJ

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    Moses, just stop already!

    Most of these things on your list nobody cares. You constantly talked about hanging out in the sportsbook all day with numerous homeless people in great deal. I speculated you were homeless. Seemed likely. You say you're not and own your own home. I haven't looked into that. Have no interest. But I accept that my speculation was wrong.

    I never said you were on SSI. I said social security disability. They are not the same. You are on social security retirement now. Good for you. Enjoy your retirement

    If you are not playing red chip and are playing green to black and only average 10k a year.....you are not doing very well. But I still don't believe a player can play green to black on a regular basis in Reno. That is not the way Reno works. For a few days (weekend) a couple times a year....yes, if you are careful. I couldn't even get that my last trip without a significant problem.

    On VCT, you posted that you were going to come to Vegas, find me take pictures and distribute those pictures to casinos. You were banned for these threat against an AP. 2 months later someone attempted to get into the building looking for me. You know damn right well it was you. No one ever said you were detained or arrested. You were turned away and a complaint filed with police. I didn't file the complaint. That is between you and building security/management.

    I didn't rat you out. I doubt that anyone ratted you out. If you all of the sudden are having trouble playing it probably is due to your posting that you play and win Reno regularly. Eventually someone associated with a casino or database company reads these boards. I know, because I have had my own problems. Do you know that after my second heart surgery that I posted about on forums, when I returned to playing, I had a pit guy welcome me back and say something about "let's just take it easy and have no problems". It was a nice gesture but also a warning and he was letting me know that he knew who I was from reading these forums.

    You haters like to call me uneducated because I didn't have the opportunity to go to college as I had planned. That came to a crashing halt when my stepfather kicked me out of the house while I was a senior in high school. I lived in a homeless shelter and took two buses to school just to finish high school. Henry Ford and many other successful people didn't go to college. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Dick Cheney, Mark Zuckleberg, and Oprah Winfrey all did not finish or graduate college. I am not comparing myself to any of them, but my field is professional gambling, professional blackjack play. You don't go to college for that. I have gotten my education from some of the greatest blackjack players, both living and dead. And I think I have done pretty well. Over 1.5 million in total advantage play as of this year, 1.25 million from blackjack and card counting in my 18 years. While that may not be get "rich money", it is hardly a failure.

    You say "you don't know or care about what a player can make". That is exactly what it is about on gambling forums. Money is the measuring stick. What do you think is measured, how many free t-shirts and other casino trinkets we get?

    How about you just stop with whatever the fuck your issue is and go on with your life. If you are retired, find something to enjoy retirement and life. If that something involves blackjack, I am happy to share some tips on how to continue to play after drawing heat. But just stop with all this bullshit. ENOUGH!
     
  7. KewlJ

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    And this post is nonsense too. You are living in and discussing things from the past, from 40 years ago. If your column count and specialty count is so great why have you averaged 10k a year for the last decade. That is less than the lowest paid fast food worker.

    There is one place that Single deck, 3/2 blackjack exits and that is Reno (and maybe a couple other small towns in vegas) but you can't get any decent money or spread down. That is just fact.

    There are still hundreds of professional or professional LEVEL card counters playing the game for serious or decent money. Not a single one plays Reno on a regular basis. If you are so smart, why is that? Players can NOT make any real money playing Reno on a regular basis.

    When you talk about Reno and column counts and specialty counts it is like you are talking about using a slide rule or calculator in an era of computers. THAT just is not how a player wins any money at blackjack in 2021 or even the last 20 years.
     

  8. Tater

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    So the column count for any who is interested.

    I read Edwin Thorpe's book back in the 80's. He spoke about ratios of 10's versus other cards in the deck. Now, back in his day, he could beat the game with a large bet spread and a deeply dealt game.

    However, they put a clamp on bet spreads and getting 6 rounds in a straight up game is considered good. So I took Thorpe's method and developed a column count of 2-5s and 6-9s.
    1) this will reveal some hit or stand opportunities that would otherwise be a lost hand. However, this can lead to preferential shuffling if you do it too often.
    2.) This is the part KJ or few get. You make money with fewer large bets. Hence, yes the deck could be rich in tens, but also rich in 6-9s.
    So you pass and wait. Of course if 10's come out in the next round, you missed an opportunity. But if 6-9s come out in the round, you have a great opportunity on the next round.

    However, waiting for the game to come to you takes an extreme amount of patience. CV Data was a handy tool as I changed columns to get more bang for my time. Not necessarily my buck.

    Eventually, I used CV Data and sort of combined Don S and Edwin Thorpe knowledge and strategies. I came up with a percentage count.

    That was the ticket to play within casino tolerance with limited variance. Until KJ fucked it up. I may write more on the percentage count later.
     
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    KJ writes: I said social security disability.

    Tater asks: How did you get this false info? So finally you admit I'm not homeless. First lie he has ever admitted to.

    KJ writes: If you are not playing red chip and are playing green to black and only average 10k a year.....you are not doing very well. But I still don't believe a player can play green to black on a regular basis in Reno. That is not the way Reno works. For a few days (weekend) a couple times a year....yes, if you are careful. I couldn't even get that my last trip without a significant problem.

    Tater says: You just lost $11k. Clearly, you do not know anything about Reno. I played primarily green chip. I'm doing quite well. Zillow indicate my house has went from $170k when I purchased it 10 years ago to over $500k.
    I played blackchip when the game was offered recently. My investments are spread. Expense and cost of living low. But you fucked up my blackjack playing.

    KJ writes: You say "you don't know or care about what a player can make". That is exactly what it is about on gambling forums. Money is the measuring stick.

    Tater says: Gambling forums should not be launching pads for drama queens like KJ. If the game is worth playing? It's worth winning. But to win consistently takes time, hard work, research, and a calm, cool, collective approach. None of which you possess. You're just a raging drama queen that won't back up your words.

    KJ writes: How about you just stop with whatever the fuck your issue is and goon with your life.

    Tater says: Ain't going to happen until you admit all your all lies. One down. Several to go.
     
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    Who is Edwin Thorpe?

    Google search shows director of blue cross and blue shield or a gynecologist in Memphis Tenn. Is that who you are getting your blackjack expertise from?
     
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    Mistake. Will try again.
     
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    The mistake I repeatedly make with you is trying to treat you like a normal decent person. You just want to fight.
     
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    Someone calls me out, lies about me, and rats me out?

    Ive kicked people's asses for less. But I've never seen a coward as much as you. So you want to fight on forums? Fine by me.
     
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    I don't want to fight on forums. That is why I tried to treat you like a decent person and resolve this.

    While I still believe I and other APs and real players have a right to challenge claims that just can't be, I have paid a high price for doing so with you haters repeatingly doxxong me in hopes of ending my career. So I am just not going to bother with you or MDawg and further.

    If you have this continuing need or desire to continue "fighting", you are going to have to fight with yourself.
     

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    Whatever. I could care less
    Figure you will tuck your tail and run. You challenge by lying.

    I was on disability. How did you get this false info?

    I bet $10 a game? How do you know what I Bet? I bet $2200 a game. Didn't bet during covid. I dropped back to $1100 starting in MLB this year. Struggle in MLB. Undefeated in NFL.
    Even in NBA and NHL.

    Ok I will give up another secret and probably get fucked by the tattle tail on it
    There are tier points. You bet $30 and it's worth a tier point. So you bet $30 to win $10. But then you also get free play for a tier point. Quite often I will double my money. This came up recently. Long after your accusation.

    Provide proof I was at your building or I will be on your ass until you do. It simply didn't happen.
     
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    I have disclosed all I can disclose publicly about that situation. I was never an official party to the situation, but some info was shared with me, because I was the target. You are going to have to take it up with the other official parties. If I say anything more about the info shared with me, you will again scream about suing someone for this or that. I am not going to be part of that, nor keep going in circles with this.
     
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    It's a lie. You are the one responsible because you brought it up. You will never have the credibility you so desperately seek until you come clean. I know for an absolute 100% fact I haven't been to Vegas since 2016. No desire to return. But will turn myself in to whatever authorities if that is what it takes. What month? What year?

    Going in circles? You started it you little fuck.

    How did you derive I was on disability? Another lie.

    How do you know how much I bet per game? Another lie. I don't recall any queens standing behind me in line when I bet.
     
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    So you go ahead and poke your in the sand.

    If I do get your name and address. If I am motivated enough to send an email to Vegas Casinos. You gave me the idea. Someone will beat me to it and you will accuse me.

    If I do it? I will own it and be proud of it. As Norm stated, "you shouldn't be allowed on any forums. You are a disgrace to the blackjack community."
     
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