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TurboGenius Moving forward with Turbos work

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by GaryG, Sep 5, 2024.

  1. Quos

    Quos Active Member

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    Hi @atrox23 , I'm also doing all my testing flat betting. I think If something works, you must have an advantage by playing flat. Progression maximizes benefits.
     
  2. atrox23

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    Hi Quos , many will disagree because flat is the optimum showing that we have an edge if it goes as needed..
    I can't see what is for use finally as there are many concept but i always like the way as it is on the AOR1 , like the last graph i posted. There has to be some key points that i can't see if there is a solution on this !!
     
  3. atrox23

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    Based on my data i think is worth it so we go to other sets , why we make it hard and stay on str8!
     
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  4. Denzie

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    Imagine your selection are the # from the horserace. Imagine you don't delete them because they didn't show on the next row...Imagine calculate a progression that actually works....Imagine that
     
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  5. GaryG

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    So keep numbers and start a new race? Numbers can sleep for 100 spins.
     
  6. GaryG

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    @Denzie if you would like to check your email.
     
  7. atrox23

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    What numbers to keep? I had from 1x to 6x first column all different numbers , zero match!!!
     
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  8. Chrono

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    You can calculate your advantage like this:

    edge = (pWin * payout) - (pLose * bet)

    You can then take that advantage and use the kelly criterion to determine your bet sizing. You shouldn't need a progression, Kelly provides the optimal return based on advantage
     
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  9. Gigi666

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    He isnt saying anything about starting new race.
     
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  10. Denzie

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    Exactly!!! Select your # and let the game begin. Aggressive progression and reset . Rince and repeat. People looking at the horserace and say....the gaps ... no hits in the matches column...etc etc ..

    Did you ever look at your sheets and think...hmmm that leader from 2x to 3x to 4x ( for example) got """""""""cold""""""" and didn't show in our top 1,2,3,... and there he is after 100 spins ... think guys .... F*CKING THINK !!!!!!!!
     
  11. Yoigo

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    Y hasta antes...
     

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  12. atrox23

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    For sure we did look, is this finally a statics or dynamic bet.
     
  13. atrox23

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    That red block happens a lot and it is around 46 spins without a hit, i was thinking can we drop the longest missing from our top 3 pick as they came in different order and keep the other two as we go also drop again the second farther so we lower the loses .

    Screen Shot 10-17-2024 at 10.30 AM.png
     
  14. Quos

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    Hola Yoigo,
    En tu grafico, se ve como marcas los tres primeros numeros en llegar a 2x. Y como dos de ellos (numeros 10 y 32) consigue llegar al 4x en cabeza para el spin 70.
    Pero yo he hecho muchas muchas pruebas de este estilo y hay numeros que despues de x giros, se enfrían mucho y dejan de ser rentables.
    ¿Podrias explicar a que te refieres en tu gráfico?

    Gracias
     

  15. atrox23

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    What i am thinking is that we are making decisions based on a cycle length and repeats , i am saying that it seems what rrbb said back then so we base something on a process.. as numbers are independent every new spin can create a situation .. So I can start and play my game continuously based on the loop length i have add.

    At some point i have to start and play :
    Stream starts like this: What is the perfect window for a threepeater?

    0x (28): [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 15, 16, 19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 34, 35, 36]
    1x (6): [18, 33, 10, 26, 12, 6]
    2x (3): [14, 20, 17]
     
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    Here is a sample based on the above:

    Screen Shot 10-17-2024 at 1.16 PM.png
     
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    I did run some more spins on the same graph.. Can someone share data based on the third repeat occurrence!

    Screen Shot 10-17-2024 at 1.58 PM.png
     
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    Million trials:

    Count 1, Occurrence 1: Average spin = 1.00, Min spin = 1, Max spin = 1
    Count 1, Occurrence 2: Average spin = 2.03, Min spin = 2, Max spin = 6
    Count 1, Occurrence 3: Average spin = 3.09, Min spin = 3, Max spin = 7
    Count 2, Occurrence 1: Average spin = 8.31, Min spin = 2, Max spin = 28
    Count 2, Occurrence 2: Average spin = 12.91, Min spin = 4, Max spin = 33
    Count 2, Occurrence 3: Average spin = 16.62, Min spin = 6, Max spin = 34
    Count 3, Occurrence 1: Average spin = 21.05, Min spin = 3, Max spin = 55
    Count 3, Occurrence 2: Average spin = 29.44, Min spin = 6, Max spin = 61
    Count 3, Occurrence 3: Average spin = 35.66, Min spin = 10, Max spin = 66
     
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  20. atrox23

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    Ok i will finish this here : It is almost flat , when i had more then 2 numbers i increase 1 unit..

    Screen Shot 10-17-2024 at 2.33 PM.png

    Thank you MatwieJ, but what i need is for a specific length so i have a threepeater , make sense? Can you run for example length 18?
     

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