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Baccarat My 2 system long term winner

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Miraclehvac, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. Miraclehvac

    Miraclehvac New Member

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    Ive created this system over the course of years that I’ve gambled. Ive created many systems along the way that eventually turned out to be losers. I have tried numerous amount of card counting methods, multiple patterns and rows, and all the bonus counts, none of which truly works long term. Along the way I have found 2 different systems that I have created, one which really holds no significant value, and another which has proven to work more so than the other. I have found when mathematically combining both of these systems together through a computer program, they have come back with truly amazing results. I am not selling any systems, I am not looking to make a rouse out of anyone, I am just here to share my system, let those who have computer knowledge run these 2 systems through there software, and then come back to me and tell me that I’m full of shit. I find that these 2 systems work because number 1, it exploits a running bias, and 2, it gives a not so random trigger that tells you when to beg so you don’t bet every time. This is not a flat bet winning method and this is not a full blown martingale chaser, this is that right in between median that gives long term results. This is the method:

    Method 1:
    2 card draw winner gives value of 4
    3 card draw winner gives value of 3
    2 card draw loser gives value of 2
    3 card draw loser gives value of 1

    Calculate both sides, player and banker, card draw making given the value, and leave a total running count for each run and reset count back to new when a chop occurs. Ex. 2 card winner on banker and 3 card loser on player equals count of 5.
    When the count is 0-5, bet the same run, when the count is 6-9 bet on a switch (chop).

    Method 2:

    Odd cards mean next hand is a banker
    Even cards mean next hand is player

    Add the winning hands value to the next winning hands value for each run. When there is a chop/switch, then reset your count. Ex. Player has a total of 6 and banker has a total of 9. Running count is 9. Next hand player has a total of 2 and banker has a total of 3. The new running count is 9 from the previous hand plus the current 3 making it a total running count of 2. The next hand is a player 7 to a banker 6, since there was a chop/switch from banker to player, the new running count is 7.

    These are both of my methods, each method works for a few hands in a row at times. The real winning method is gonna be when both methods agree on the next bet. Let’s say method one, it just hit a running count of 6 on the players side. That means bet banker. Now let’s say method 2 has a running count of 9 which is odd, that means bet banker also. Now that both methods agree, it’s time to bet.

    Betting amount:
    I have found that I have never lost more than 4 bets in a row over millions of computerized hands and also a few thousand hands of real action with 8 deck shoes. Therefore I bet as such. First bet $100, 2nd bet $200, 3rd bet $400, 4th bet $800. If for some odd reason you do hit that 4th loss, reset back to $100 and you’ll make it back within 30 minutes. If you really want to be balsy, go for $1600 bet next. I have never lost that $1600 bet, I just know it’s too close to comfort. Any questions, ask away! Thanks
     
  2. edge

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    Pls give examples of play
     
  3. LV Xiao

    LV Xiao New Member

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    Hi Miraclehvac:

    I had a question about you second method. Quote, "Method 2:

    Odd cards mean next hand is a banker
    Even cards mean next hand is player

    Add the winning hands value to the next winning hands value for each run. When there is a chop/switch, then reset your count. Ex. Player has a total of 6 and banker has a total of 9. Running count is 9. Next hand player has a total of 2 and banker has a total of 3. The new running count is 9 from the previous hand plus the current 3 making it a total running count of 2. The next hand is a player 7 to a banker 6, since there was a chop/switch from banker to player, the new running count is 7."

    What do I do when the running count is 2?

    Thank you for helping!

    LV Xiao
     
  4. ice789

    ice789 New Member

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    IF TIE GAME ?


    Pls give examples of play
     
  5. JRK

    JRK New Member

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    I would think you play player because it's an even number. Wouldn't you? According to his rules.
     
  6. Berichman

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    Hello Mr. Miracle

    Please give us a example of play
    It's not easy to understand. :(:(
     
  7. Berichman

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    LV Xiao,
    Do you understand Method 1?
     

  8. Berichman

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    Do you understand Method 1?
     
  9. daveylibra

    daveylibra New Member

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    I could write a Basic program to work out the results quickly and test this.

    I understand Method 1 and 2, but as was previously said, what about a tie?
    Is it ignored, treated as a run, or a switch?
    I think Miraclehvac needs to tell us...
     
  10. Berichman

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    Excellent!!!!! You understand them all !
    Can you give me some example game ?
    Please!! With counting TIE
     
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  11. daveylibra

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    That's the point, I don't know what to do with a Tie situation.
    I could assume that we just reset everything and start again after one hand.
    I mean, when we decide to start a new session, I assume we take the first hand we see and get our calculations from that.
    So this is what we could do after a Tie
    But could the Original Poster verify this?
    Also, if it works on a 1,2,4,8 progression, why not on a flat bet? You must be winning more hands than losing?
     
  12. Berichman

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    Davelibra,
    Please explain without Tie situation
    1st hand 2card B loss: 3cards P WIN
    2nd hand 2cards B WIN : 2cards P loss
    3rd hand 3cards B WIN: 2cards P loss
    4th hand 2cards B loss : 2cards P WIN

    Method 1 ?
    Method 2?
    Please explain without Tie situation!!!
     
  13. daveylibra

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    Hand 1 -
    Method 1. 3card win = 3, 2card lose = 2. Total =5. = bet same run (P)

    For Method 2 you need the value of the cards.
     
  14. Ravinderchawla

    Ravinderchawla New Member

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    Do we only bet when both methods agree on
     

  15. lemonade

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    Folks, this guy is having a laugh at your expense. You couldn't go a few shoes without losing 4 in a row with this system, much less "millions of computerized hands". Neither of his methods have any predictive power at all, alone or in combination.
     
  16. John Blerg

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    I have only been playing a few months and I've already won over $30,000.00.

    But my sister has lost a huge amount of money and almost all of her friends have also. If I played more than a few hands, I would start losing as well and I have.

    I have wrote on it this message board and I have gave you my method and it works but it's only playing a few hands. it's not playing every shoe 20 to 50% of the shoe the way everyone does.

    You cannot even go a half a shoe without losing Four Hands unless you are only playing four hands. If you play 20 to 30 hands of shoe you're going to lose more than four hands every single shoe.

    Maybe stick with the theoretical and keep running the modules or whatever they're called and your theories on the computer it's safer that way and that way after hundreds of thousands of hands you'll be able to be a winner of course that's on your computer.

    When you get up the nerve and the risk money then you'll actually go to a casino.
     
  17. mansi19896

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    could you tell exactly about counting. The 2 and 3 in descriptions are only one which are added into counting? what about others.
     
  18. Fusion

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    • Violation of Rule #4
    Hello I have Dr Tom Baccarat Home and Study and Hybrid system
    I buy all of them around $3300
    Can anyone help me to trade it?
    WA [removed]
     
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  19. Ravinderchawla

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    How many hands u play at one time, & in a single day
     
  20. JAMESBANKROLL009

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    OMG You have been scammed... The biggest scammer in the area is Jay Silva... Be careful with him
     

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