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Roulette My Way or the Highway

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Daniel, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. Daniel

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    Typing mistakes will be here...

    I use VB + kav MM & bet style + 4selecta + crazy LoT +... Gambler fallacy (GF)! (yes, i just wrote this).

    So far (3 months), profits is all i know. I play real casinos european roulette.

    All bets are 8 chip more less kav style.

    I invest about 100 chips. Leave when tired (for my head, this requires a lot of concentration so normally after 2 to 4 hours I call it off). A normal profit is 80+ 240 chips. A bad is going to happen eventually but when it's all about that good run where you make 1000 chips. And this is happening 1 out of 4.

    I have 8 standart bets: VZ bet, Tiers bet modified to catch orphelins, left side, right side, 12:8 CW, 12:8 ACW, 20:4 CW, 20:4 ACW. You can define this later but you get the idea.

    I wait for 5 consecutive half wheel changes. Example: VZ, TC, VZ, TC, VZ. Or Left side, right side, left side... Got it? So it must alternate between one of my 4 pair bet (VZ/TC, LS/RS, 12:8, 20:4).

    Then I bet it will stick in the next 4... 5... 6... (this is the gambler fallacy right here) You decide according to your more/less agressive prog and MM. We can discuss this stuff in later posts if this turns out to be of interest by anyone.

    Now, i don't bet when 4selecta is against me.

    I don,t bet if that section is complety against crazy LoT ( normally they show 12 numbers on the marker so I don't like when 8 or more hits are in the bet section).

    I don't bet when VB failed. This one, we must for sure discuss on next post. But for sure screw those dealer pecker balls, and if he gets smart and tries to make those super slow trows, you must be able to show him that you not there to be called stupid and just say thanks for a free win.

    Then is about positive prog trying to catch first win and change it to negative prog with help of profit kav style.
     
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  2. Daniel

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    Just a small example about bet layout possibility

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    No idea WTF you just wrote.
     
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    Hi there! Forget the 4selecta, the crazy LoT, the VB, the MM.
    Do you get the 8 standart bets and the goal of catching the ball dropping in the same half? It can be the opposite like 4 or 5 times in the same half, then try to catch the ball in the other half. That part you get?

    Do you want an example? I can give you one but then you must remember this examples will not demonstrate de VB part that can be of help.
     
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    I'm going to play in the casino now. But if you write back, tomorrow we can start from the beggining.
    And maybe an example would be of help
     
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    Hello Daniel,

    I am interested in learning your method. It would be awesome if you could kindly take the time to elaborate on what you do and give examples. Thanks very much!

    Marty
     
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    Hi there Marty. Tomorrow i will try to do so. Can it be an example like the attached or you want to give another one? This is the spins i found in other forums... There is a bunch. Just remember that my example will not use VB so... Let's see what happens!
    I'm now taking a breake in the casino. Just practicing VB today. So far triple chips but VB is so damn hard! Wow! The upload is larger then 1MB... Well I will work it out tomorrow.
     

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    Finish with 25 chips profit for a entry with 25 chips... I struggle with VB a lot... But use this dead days in the local casino to practice.
     
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    Hi Daniel,

    Could explain the 8 standart bets and the goal of catching the ball dropping in the same half. Also how do you integrate kav MM & bet style?

    Thanks a lot!

    Marty
     
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    An example might work, as I've never heard of any of those terms.

    Does your system make you money?
     
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    Hi there. My way is making profit. I wrote above that in last month I made 5000 chips. Month before I made 1771 chips. 3 months ago I made 750 chips... I was still 0% on VB and the way was still very draft mode. This month I had a lot of things to do. Like 8 birthdays and I'm preparing to go back to africa to work in my field where they have no casinos near by... It will be probably 3 years without playing. So this month I made 1000 chips so far. By this rate it would be nice if i finish with 2000, 3000. I realy think this works when played well i would love to know that others profit from this. But bear im mind, the reason i initially joined was to try to get advices because 1,2 losses happen in every 4 games. 2,3 games will triple your chips and what you really want is that game that 10x your chips. When your lucky you can get this game 1 out of 4. 4, 5 times a month. That's how i made my 5000 chips profit last month
     
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    But still, we can only cheer this way if we find a way to reduce loss to 0... Ok 1 time in every 4 max lol
     
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    So we now try to explain 8 standart bets in detail.
    We are talking european wheel. I can only hope this can be addapted to american wheel if that is your case.

    Please have a european wheel figure next to you while you read trough.

    When you finish this step, you will be very close to know the european wheel by head. This will be very usefull for VB later on. This will help you to spot a number and immediatly know what bet to play.

    Also this will help you to know make a definitive connection between table layout and wheel sectors.

    Even for the ones that will not like my way, be sure this is a good exercise for your better connection with the game.
     
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    Standart bet 01: Voisins du Zero
    This bet covers the number 22:25 clock wise. It is represented by the attached figure.
    It covers 17 numbers. One off the smaller range bets but very likely to hit a split except for 0/2/3.
    Note that you can modify this bet for example exclude 2 or 3 and make an 8 split bet.
    Latter we can talk about how using the other tools we incorporate we can try our luck and leave a couple empty slots and push some numbers for example you leave 12 and bet a full chip on 15.
     

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    Standart bet 2: Tiers du Cylindre with some orphelins.

    This bet covers 20 numbers and it covers 17:9 clock wise. Leaves 2-4 numbers not covered depending of how you play it. See attached figure.

    I normally cover 6/9 but then if you do this, 5/8 & 6/9 will become 1 chip profit bets. We really want to hit splits and full numbers.

    Then again i use the 4selecta to guide my bet in term of short range numbers variation. Like why leave 14 oppened and not 16 or 20... Or why not leave 24 or 36 oppened and give strenght to your 6/9.

    But for now this should be enough.
     

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    So now you have what I call the first pair of bets. Bet 1 & 2 make a pair as both together cover the entire wheel except 2-4 numbers.

    I started by this bets because they are the most likely to be known and used.

    Dealers recognize this 2 plays immediatly and they can run from them. Of course, that's why we need to apply other thinks to suceed.

    One of them, is that if you are in a table where people are all going that direction, you don't play. Imagine that you were going to play bet one but no one else on the table is playing simmilar to bet 2 or at least putting some strong bets down the wheel (TC area) and on the other hand you have stacked piles close to in the 0 neighbours area. Don't play it. Patience... And then let me know what happens most of the time.
     
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    Back to the play itself...
    Imagine that in the last 5 spins you had:

    Spin 1- 26 (bet 1)
    Spin 2 - 30 (bet 2)
    Spin 3 - 15 (bet 1)
    Spin 4 - 17 (bet 2)
    Spin 5 - 7 (bet 1)...

    Ok. So now we bet that the next spin will be bet 1!

    Note that this is what people can call gambler's fallacy. Later we will add up tools to support our decision.

    Note that the opposite can apply. The ball is landing in same bet for 4-5 plays... Maybe it's time she goes and meet the other side.

    But don't jump into conclusions. Again, this is just to explain the basic principle.
     
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    Regarding the MM and the progressions...
    I must say that this part is one I was hopping to get help here.
    But still, all my bets are 8 chip bets. If it splits we gain 10 chips. Other like lines and corners will get less of course...
    If I lose first bet I normally increase to 2x bet (16 chip). Although you could still profit with 8 chip bet and a +2 chip profit.
    If I lose second bet, I bet 3x bet (24 chip).
    If I lose third bet, I bet 5x or 6x bet (40-48 chip).
    If I lose fourth bet, I go home, finish!

    Now of I win...
    I will enter in what to do with profit in other post... Now I have to go. It varies a lot what you win. Even with splits it varies from 6-12 chips profit. So we must take time to go trough this.
     
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    Back! When I win...
    See attachment.
    Choosing to go to prog 2 but expecially prog 3 is up to the player.
    For example if you don't want to take the risk of falling into prog 3, you just turn your line bet (3 numbers) into a split (2 numbers). Same with corner.
    Down the line you will see that "line" and "corner" bet allways have an out number for example line 19/20/21 if righ side wheel section, you're realy just rooting for 19/21 and 20 is just a number you bet because of table layout. So maybe you can leave one number empty and bet full 19 or 21.

    Tell me if you get this part.
     

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    Standart bet 3: right side of the wheel.

    This bet covers from 0:5 clock wise. This bets are more tricky because they leave 4 numbers missing. So you may see the ball dropping in the bet section but missing the number more often.

    When I'm playing more chips or high value as the profit grows, i normally put a couple extra chips to protect this missing numbers. Again I look for things like 4 selecta to try to guide me in the bet.
    For example I was reading Two company by Mr. J yesterday, maybe it's also a noce way to choose what numbers to protect. Will talk further on this.
     

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