I noticed a few people moaning because there are no new idea, just the same marty, paroli, labouchere etc.... Anyway, this thread is for new ideas. Let's see what we all can come up with. I did come up with the start of an idea the other night and it's something I have not seen or considered before. Here is the shoe... P BB PPP B PP BBB PPP BB PPPP B PPPPP BBB PPPP BBB P BBBB PP BBBB P B Nothing spectacular there! 24 B vs 26 P. So I decided to chart the 'Same/Opposite' and numbered all the bets in the same fashion you see on the scoreboards at the casino. This is where it gets a bit more interesting. Where I highlighted in green first, the numbers are pretty much the same (9 at the top for the Player/Banker vs 7 down below for the Same/Opposite) Now look for the second part where I have highlighted in green and it's 34 at the top for Player/Banker vs 17 down below for the Same/Opposite. Based on this info, it's easy to see the top row is streaking and therefore the numbers are more condensed and the bottom row is chopping hence the more elongated appearance. So as a visual aid, it can help us to see what's going on with the Player/Banker vs the Same/Opposite. That's my initial thoughts and I will play around with it a bit.