Baccarat New ideas thread

I noticed a few people moaning because there are no new idea, just the same marty, paroli, labouchere etc....

Anyway, this thread is for new ideas. Let's see what we all can come up with.

I did come up with the start of an idea the other night and it's something I have not seen or considered before.

Here is the shoe...

P
BB
PPP
B
PP
BBB
PPP
BB
PPPP
B
PPPPP
BBB
PPPP
BBB
P
BBBB
PP
BBBB
P
B

Nothing spectacular there! 24 B vs 26 P. So I decided to chart the 'Same/Opposite' and numbered all the bets in the same fashion you see on the scoreboards at the casino.



This is where it gets a bit more interesting. Where I highlighted in green first, the numbers are pretty much the same (9 at the top for the Player/Banker vs 7 down below for the Same/Opposite)
Now look for the second part where I have highlighted in green and it's 34 at the top for Player/Banker vs 17 down below for the Same/Opposite.

Based on this info, it's easy to see the top row is streaking and therefore the numbers are more condensed and the bottom row is chopping hence the more elongated appearance.

So as a visual aid, it can help us to see what's going on with the Player/Banker vs the Same/Opposite.

That's my initial thoughts and I will play around with it a bit.

 

My method wins 7.65 units. And that’s using my basic progression. In this case however, I would have had the opportunity to flat bet this entire example.

 

g1m3 what happened to it?

 

FTL was good in this shoe. When I test, I just pick the first cab off the rank and then sometimes it looks easy for a particular bet selection.
If we got shoes like the one I posted above all the time, we would all be rich pretty damn quick!

 

I thought you were more interested in 11 33 99 for the double dozens. I was leaving you to it and praying for you!

 

Very quick!!!

 

I was looking at my graph again from above



I added a tally count at the bottom of each column of results

Banker = 2,1,3,2,1,3,3,4,4,1
Player = 1,3,1,3,4,5,4,1,2,1

Same = 1,1,1,2,2,1,3,4,2,3
Opposite = 1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1

The Opposite was the one that caught my interest. The top row was numerically streaking ahead as mentioned above and so the bottom row is more numerically elongated. Because of this, it is reasonable to expect that you are going to get more clusters of singles and this happened here with the Opposite.

 

Here is another shoe

B
P
B
P
B
PP
B
PP
BB
P
B
PPPP
BB
P
B
PP
BB
P
B
P
BBB
PP
BB
PPP
BB
P
B
PPPPP
BB
PP
BB
PP
B
P
B
PP
B
PP
BB

A bit more choppy than the last one.




Banker = 1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2
Player = 1,1,2,2,1,4,1,2

Same = 1,1,1,3,1,1,1,2
Opposite = 4,2,1,3,1,3,1,4,1

This time the bottom row was slightly more condensed than the top row and so it shows with the Banker 1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2

 

I would have broken even with this one flat betting. I would have won money using the progression I use. Interesting examples.

 

Using my progression, +7.2 units

 

cps10, that's good, it sounds like your strategy is one that can take advantage whatever is happening at the time. I think that's what we are all aiming for ultimately.

 

@baccarou Like how Lanky does his 6-point divisor, he has a lock down, which my method does as well, where it won’t hurt you any further and allows you to pick up where you left off once the trigger shows again. So far your two examples have me winning overall with a flat bet, and with the progression, winning a substantial amount.

The lock down feature also allows the “probabilities” to sway back into your favor. Now, of course, whether or not that happens in the short-term is a bit of a gamble, but seems to work fairly well.

 

Betting flat is my style these day but if I was gonna use the progression it would be my soxfan style modified star style. As for bets selection I would not bother with the trendings, guessing, patterns caprturings, roads drivings, presentment, dbl, ftl so os, lmnop and other foolishness and just bet bankers. So betting b only ever hand using my modified star style woulda capture 26 units gross profits buckin up aganinst that shoe, hey hey.

 

Cats was askin so I'll pony up my soxfan style modified star style, hey hey.

1-1-2-3-5-10-15-25-40-60-100 units bets
2-1-2-2-3-8-8-13-18-18-38 units profits

 

why did you give up on it? isn't it strong

 

You Brits are always tall and thoughtful, descendants of Churchill.

 

Bettings bank only every hand usin my soxfan style modified start style woulda capture 33 units gross profits for this shoe, hey hey.

 

G3M1 is a very good MM strategy IMO, I have not given up on it. That thread was mostly just a book review on Koetsch's work.
This is an open thread for anybody to share/discuss any new ideas they have. It's good to look at different ideas from time to time to see if you can get a different slant on things.

 

I always think of churchill as short and heavy(woke speak) we have to be careful what we say now, i didn't mean short eemm not fully developed, no thats wrong vertically challenged no that won't do ? any help would be appreciated with my wording.

 

I never liked the original Star because it didn't go deep enough, and it was very difficult to recoup a 100 unit hit in 9 steps. But I do love the above modification using 11 steps and risking 250 + units. I loved it so much I tested it against not 302 shoes (see below) but 693 shoes! And OUCH !!! It lost just over 4 units a shoe net! When you look at the numbers, it turns out that you have to win about 85% of shoes in order to just break even! So the bottom line was you need to get near 90% win to profit using this. Believe me, it's pretty easy to lose 10 or 12 or 15 shoes out of a hundred!!! Some heavy player shoes got clipped twice for over 500 units lost.

Yet below he claimed 4089 gross unit profit for 302 shoes = 13 units a shoe?????? And he gave it up because he couldn't find a casino that could handle even a $500 bet. Bwahahaha.

The gaslight never stops with this guy!