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Roulette New system/idea: Mist Trap

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Sparky, Jan 31, 2016.

  1. Sparky

    Sparky Member Founding Member

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    I got a new idea for a system based on the recent discussion (if you can call it that!) over at the Random Thoughts topic - inspired by Priyanka's final disclosure - but whose video didn't seem to match the idea: of Cycles. He/she stated that Roulette is based on cycles, i.e. 1 cycle ends when a number (dozen in the given example) repeats - then a new cycle begins. Therefore, according to Priyanka when we get our first repeat of a number (usually by spin 7 I seem to recall - but max spin 25) then we reach the end of our cycle. Of course, the player could continue to bet the numbers that have appeared once or more for as long as they like - but then the rhythm of the cycle is broken so to speak (according to the theory).

    I propose we begin by aiming to win a cycle on the ECs - but if we can't manage it then we "stitch" our cycle to the dozens & columns then to the Double Streets if need be, and so on - and at the same time we are "stitching" our bet selection, using the carpet layout to our advantage. This system naturally incorporates a number of different ECs and tends to follow the trends.

    I have only made 1 video so far, and I am having to guess the progression steps since there is a number of different situations and bet selections:
    https://youtu.be/ojXZ1gbHKfI (edit: this one is taking a while to process so perhaps check out the 2nd vid below first)
    I will try to get to +50 if I can - that's my goal.

    Edit: reached my goal! grin.gif thumbsup.gif (but profit is a bit slow with this system yawn.gif )
    https://youtu.be/7evHcyFU9yE

    Here's some types of bet selections that have been "stitched" to give you an idea:
    R/B
    R/B > O/E > 2 x columns > 2 x dozens
    R/B > 2 x columns > 2 x dozens > 3 x double streets
    R/B > O/E > 1 x column > 2 x columns
    R/B > O/E > H/L > 3 x double streets

    I got to 4 double streets once; after 5 we should move into the single streets or quads - aiming for any of those to repeat since the cycle began back at the initial R/B bet. I am gauging that around 8 different progressions would need to be worked out and memorized.

    ./index.php?topic=16499.0

    http://www.rouletteforum .cc/index.php?topic=16499.0
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Made a system just like this years ago. "Against All Odds" (look it up).
    It works nicely - until it doesn't. lol
     
  3. mr j

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    "a complete lockdown via a corner trap then sequence of alternating bets!! This casino game has been completely annihilated".

    At least I can NOW say this.....its more of a outside the box type of thinking/method, I give credit there.

    Ken
     
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    mr j Well-Known Member

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    I have yet to like any outside betting method. I think its all s**t.

    Ken
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    The key to winning is to focus on the wheel rather than the layout.
     
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  6. james15

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    Yap , i think you have to be lucky too :) lol
     
  7. Creepy

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    sorry for the basic question but what does double street mean?
     

  8. TurboGenius

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    Playing two streets at once.
    For example 1-2-3 and 4-5-6 by placing the bet on the corner where both meet
    Typically called a "Line" bet - but people have been calling it "double street"

    Line.jpg
     
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    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Luck does not exist. (no really, it doesn't - not in the math world)
     
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    What happens on the wheel is "displayed" more or less on the table as well. :)
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Actually all of the information that you really need is not displayed.
     
  12. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No way ! Of course it is. (grins). I just had a funny thought of putting chips on the wheel and the dealer spinning it - chips flying everywhere lol.
     
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  13. Creepy

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    LUCK really exists, even in the world of maths!

    let's take a simple coin toss scenario where am Lucky and you are not (just an example lol)

    I choose head, you take tails, as you usual, we both have 50% chance of winning but I will win! why? because, in that toss, I was LUCKY!

    Another scenario where we take a Red ball in a basket which also contains 9 blue balls without replacing in turns, the chances of picking the red ball increases after every pick, right?

    so at the first pick if you go first you have 1/10 chances, a long shot? but if you are LUCKY then you will pick it at this hand!

    So in conclusion LUCK really exists EVERYWHERE
     
  14. mr j

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    Okay fine but do you want to RELY on luck at the casino? Not me.

    Ken
     

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    I disagree - in math there is no luck, there is only math - odds/probability, etc.
    It truly is "black and white". When you add anything else into the equation, you can't put what
    you added in as causing the result - when it would have been the same result either way.
    In your example. One person in 10 won (you say lucky) 9 people lost (unlucky ?) No -
    it's just that one person was the 1 in 10 that won, the 9 in 10 that lost "lost".
    It wasn't luck.
    This also applies to "prayer" by the way for the religious folks.
    "I prayed for something to happen and it did" as compared to 1,000 other people who prayed for the
    same thing and it didn't happen. Because the odds of whatever that was happening was 1:1,000
    It's not "faith" or "luck" it's just math.
    When I hear someone playing the lottery or roulette and picking their "lucky numbers" - surely you
    don't agree with this ? (laughs).
    There are no lucky numbers, there is no lucky math. There is no luck.
     
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    David and Carol Martin won 33 million on Saturday,......I would say lucky Bas...ds.....lol:):)
     
  17. mr j

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    Hey, good luck is NOT a bad thing BUT do you want to go through life relying on it? Whether its the lottery, casino or that new job you want. F**k luck, sorry.

    Ken
     
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    I think we agree on a lot of stuff here, am not saying odds/ probability don't work am saying Luck complements them for example if am the LUCKIEST man on earth and the chances of me winning a lottery or anything is 0% then I will definitely not win.

    The greatest example of someone being lucky!


    In this example maths just says one person will win, Luck says so and so will win!

    I won't talk about prayers because it will open whole lot of another discussion of "confidence and doing something knowing God is on your side" again not all prayers are answered...the more you pray the higher the chances of it being answered;)

    Definitely, NO! I weigh my chances and minimise the risks(i.e do my part) and then rely on Lady LUCK


     
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    Lol - That's funny
     
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    I dont think God has a stake in my 16 17 18 street hitting.

    Ken
     
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