Off-topic: Minding your manners at the Blackjack table

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Could it be because you claim that dice control is possible?
Because you make money selling books and what not with claims that are not real?
Because your books are nothing but a pile of lies and scams?
You tell me if that's enough... I can keep going

 

Nasty post.

 

Well Frank, nobody said the truth is pretty.
To me nasty is making money by taking advantage of people's weaknesses and addictions.
Each time you make a buck selling one of your books or what not, there's somebody at the other end that is guaranteed to lose money.
I seriously don't understand how the hell it is you sleep at night.

 

Nastier.

 

Although I do not relish responding to an angry writer making silly accusations I will do so this time.

In every book, article or television show that I have written on casino gambling I never recommend methods of play that are not the best.

There are two types of casino players (and varied subtypes): the "gambler" who is playing a game against a house edge which he cannot overcome and the "advantage-player" who is able to turn the edge into his or her favor.

For the gambler, I offer a reasonable way to play the games using the lowest house-edge bets and pushing the gambler to slow down the pace. In craps, the 5-Count reduces the number of random rolls a player faces by about 57 percent. So if the gambler's habit is to play for four hours about 57 percent of those four hours is spent without money at risk. Over time this is a huge savings.

The same holds true for every game I write about. Make the best bets and slow down the game (or avoid decisions). The gambler can still have the fun of anticipation but the risk is far lower.

Now for the "advantage-player" the whole thing is turned somewhat upside down. Because he or she is able to get an edge, my writing pushes the techniques necessary to do this --- card counting, other advantage methods at blackjack, dice control with proper betting, video poker play on positive machines, even advantage slot play on certain banking machines, Pai Gow Poker methods and so on.

I think my writings on casino gambling have been honest and direct and correct when it comes to strategies.

The individuals who populate my books and the adventures they have or the ideas they put forth are all real. I think I can bring alive experiences I have had or others have had in such a way as to make them interesting and exciting (I think that is a huge contributing factor in my book sales). The Captain was as real as real can be. So were "the Arm," Jimmy P., the Captain's Crew, Jerry "Stickman," Dominator, and the host of people I've written about including my wife the Beautiful AP.

So who are the people who go to extremes to attack me as opposed to simply disagreeing with me on this or that idea? Who are the writers who fall back on sarcasm to attempt to get their points and/or anger across? I think some are folks who think of themselves as competitors who figure if they knock me (usually under the cloak of anonymity) they elevate themselves. Some may be individuals who have failed miserably at gambling and are lashing out --- howling in the wind of their own chagrin.

And of course there are individuals who think of themselves as advantage-players who are disdainful of anyone who writes for that first group (gamblers) and therefore that someone cannot actually be an advantage-player himself. Can he?

 

Since you are replying to my posts Im going to assume many of the things you say are adressed to me.

First, I dont know where you get anger from what I wrote.
Im not angry.
I just expressed my thoughts and opinions, which so happen are the ones shared by almost the entire AP community.
Apparently saying you are a liar and a scam artist is offensive and comes off as if I was angry (hence the ban), so I will do my best to try to find a different way to say that.

Second, I am not a writer and I am not trying to sell anything.
I've been a member of the AP community for a long time and I can assure you there are many that can vouch for me on that.

Third, I certainly dont need to lash out or howl in the wind or anything of the sorts.
I've been around long enough to not need to prove myself so you may choose to believe I am not succesful, I couldn't care less.

All your babling is great, and we agree on that, but you know perfectly well that what I was making reference to is dice control.
This IS a FANTASY, it cannot be done and it is not a valid method to gain a statistical edge on the game of craps.
I dont know if you actually think it is possible or you are just blatantly and purposely trying to sell something that doesnt work, but the fact that dice control doesnt work is a stone cold fact.
There are minds far better than yours (and better than mine too, so you wont take it as an insult or say Im angry) that have proven this beyond any doubt.

 

This post was about Black Jack tables and what to do. It quickly escalated into a war of words and off topic conversations. bjarg I think you should start a topic for discussion around dice control and let others chime in on the subject. I for one have some thoughts but this is not the correct topic to talk about it.

 

Lastly: Dice control is not a fantasy. You can take two tests to prove whether you have the skill or not. These tests are totally objective. You can attack the tests (I guess) but how you would do that is beyond me.

As far as advantage play at blackjack, I have that in I Am a Card Counter. My wife the Beautiful AP and I did that for a long time when the games in Vegas (and even AC and especially early Tunica) were damn good. The book chronicles our years of play.

Whichever advantage players that you know who poo-poo me have never seen me play, have no idea what my bankroll was and probably enjoy their idea that they are special.

I think we have gone back and forth on this enough. Anyone who is on the fence or who would like to read my complete discussion of these matters can buy my books. I don't see any relevance in continuing this. Bjarg is convinced he is right. I know I am right. That's that for me.

 

Please re-title this thread to "Is Dice Control Real, This Angers Me" ... or some such.

 

Even though I never tried it, I was convinced of its efficacy until Stanford Wong recanted of his confidence in it.

 

Hey, hey, Zengrifter.

 

Blackjack has nothing to do with anything here Frank.
Im not questioning your blackjack skills, of which I know nothing about.
Just read my previous post.

Man... talk about trying to sell stuff.

 

Setting aside the efficacy of DC, which in my mind has not been disproved (if it has where?), Frank's knowledge of BJ advantage play is above dispute. And I see nothing wrong with his books and seminars - despite his critics I have always found solid verifiable +EV knowledge base in his work.

 

Yes, it has been disproved by what to my knowledge is the most professional and serious AP crew involved in the study of physics AP (roulette and craps).
I can give you two letters: PY.
If you are familiar with the AP scene in asia this should be enough for you to know that my source is no joke.
The reason why you probably never heard of them in the US is because what they do is serious business and actually works, so instead of trying to sell books or seminars revealing the methods they use to beat casinos they are busy making seven figures a year from joints all over the world.

Their conclusion is randomness in craps is impossible to overcome and hence the HE will always prevail and that is independant of how you throw the dice.

Frank, if you dont mind me asking: what is your background in physics? What major did you study in university? PhD or something?
This is a serious question.
It would help me to compare your credentials with the very impressive ones of the people that say that dice control cannot turn craps into a +EV game.

 

When was the last time a physics professor invented a winning casino play?

 

No idea.
Could have been two minutes ago.
I can tell you however that there is a crew of physics experts that dedicated themselves to study casino games.
although they didnt invent anything new, they did improve some existing techniques and are very succesful using their own techniques.

 

I just read a study release that I thought proved DC theory.

"Theoretically the die throw is predictable, but the accuracy required for determining the initial position is so high that practically it approximates a random process," said Marcin Kapitaniak, a Ph.D. student at the University of Aberdeen, Scotland. "Only a good magician can throw the die in the way to obtain the desired result."

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-09-die.html#jCp
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I uploaded the study paper to my website, here: http://www.catalysthouse.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/dice-physics.pdf

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My friend, almost everything is "theoretically" possible.
The only things that are impossible are things that are contradictory (something cannot be black and white at the same time).
In a 6 deck blackjack game it is "theoretically" possible for someone to memorize the order in the discard tray of all the cards played, follow every single riffle and strip through the shuffle and have a perfect mapping of how the next shoe is going to play out down to every single card that was accounted for in the previous shoe.
But can it be done?
Certainly not.
So to me saying something is "theoretically" possible means absolutely nothing.