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A long time ago I placed my first bet in a casino on roulette on number 18 [ a coin called half a crown ...2 shillings and 6 pence] I was 18 years old and an apprentice engineer. As I walked in with some friends I pasted a lady taking about her son and I heard the word 18. So I when to the first table and placed a bet on 18.. it came up! I won more than 3 weeks wages in one go! Ever since I have followed roulette in casinos as far away as Monty Carlo, some times winning other times loosing... I have used my skills in computer science to write programs that emulate many possible solutions to winning combinations and test these with what I call a button test, this involves a small but good quality home roulette set. As one of your more observant replies mentioned you win some you loose some more as the casino has the edge paying only 35/1 on a table with 37 digits. I am now nearing 70 and have come to this site to tell the world that I have now cracked the problem at last! I have not yet retired from the world of work because as a mechanical engineering designer I love my work in creating and invention. This new flow of money will help me to help the world with its terrible problems of climate destabilisation. But to answer your question young man, stay away form gambling, unless you are like me and play only if you are convinced you may win.

 

I was made up having a half crown as a boy

Welcome to the board.

 

Hi King,
When you say made up, what do you mean by this?
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Hover

 

The problem with playing a game (any game) you can't win at is that any wins either big or small is just a temporary loan. It is demoralizing when that losing run hits where you know it's all going back and the struggle is futile!

I don't remember the half a crown but I do remember the old half penny way back in the 70's.

 

Happy, glad, joyous, in the North we say "made up"

 

I have seen many strange and crazy things in casinos over the years and once played for 3 consecutive days with only £30,00. I played from opening time at 2pm to the next day 4am a total of 14 hours for those 3 days. I was even asked why could I not be beaten, but I just went up and down, a little up, a little down, until I lost. The method I had created was very stable but was not capable of any real advance. That was over 25 years ago now.
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Hover

 

Nice story Hoverquad! My first trip to a legal casino was around 1990! (I had attended an illegal one several years earlier in the Kings Cross district of Sydney.)

My Brother and I decided to check out this new casino that had opened and I think we had lunch first and then I had around £20 left.
£10 went quickly on the Blackjack table and then I cashed in for £5 at the roulette table. I am sure that they were only 10p chips.
Anyway, not exactly sure what I did, but around an hour or so later, I had around £500. I remember paying a couple of weeks rent with some of the winnings and then going back over the next few days and losing the rest back again.

 

It is simple... In a mathematic way either the player lost his bk and says that this game sucks either he won and will say that it is easy to make money at this game. In the first case actually the roulette made a gift to the player...

 

"Live by the sword, die by the sword." If you play to blaze away on win streaks and that causes you to blaze away when it is not a win streak then you will get killed off. It's not the odds. The conditions change from great to other than great. You can't know when a good patch will happen or how long in minutes or days it will last.

I took $40 into a casino and turned it into $1400 in four days. That is when I discovered my "Specials" grouping of 18 numbers. It went on a strong four day domination. I spent most of it on things I needed and wanted and lost the rest when the domination went away. You must make changes with svelte agility. You stay too long with a working sequence and it will bite you. Mindless actions, like fixed rules, always run into times when they don't work to your benefit. Even my method encounters losing streaks. I just get off of them fast by de-funding them.

 

I can not see future but I can wait till it can last as the ugliest and then tone down and further Regression towards mean happen where I can beat it a bit easier(with compare to the worst possible) with a progression dynamic enough to adapt to tricky times.
Randomness has a virtual range too. It is not infinite like one single hit of Red in 100 spins in not possible. Even if it happens somehow, I have a methodology to safeguard myself from such cases and win thereafter.
Actually, it is not possible to say what will happen in the next spin but in the larger run, it will be closer to its expected hit rate.
Ironically, there has never been any discussion on how one should play for large run and not short run and that makes the game uncertain or even horrible.

 

There is this: In the long run you will get the expected losses. In 1000 spins where you bet each spin you will win about 470 of them on the double zero wheel. You will lose about 530 of them. So, going into a real B&M casino you might have the stamina to play 300 spins. The variance will be greater for 300 spins than for 1000 spins by proportion. But for sure you should lose more spins than you will win.

I'm suggesting that you can see swarms of lost bets and avoid them. This alone will change the large number outcomes. If you only bet the winning swarms and don't bet the chaos or the losing swarms then you control the long term. Now this simple concept is true or it is not. One day you can see the obvious bad streaks and on another you can't. That is just the way that randomness plays out. The casino can't stop you from seeing this. You can play minimum bets while it sucks for you and 20 to 50 times that minimum bets during win streaks. It just takes guts and experience. You actually play to get a few net wins and you have blown the math all to smithereens. You play a game that you control.

So a discussion for me about the long run needs to be a discussion of seeing the win streaks. I don't recall that discussion ever happening in the past 15 years. I use tools to see them. There was Vic's win /loss lists, "wwLwLLwwL." Did it get talked to death back then?

 

Isn't that the same as placing virtual losses in front of any bet option?

True, very much so...

 

Here is what I do. If I'm playing a strategy where I allow 1 loss to occur while still betting heavy on the strong side then I don't use virtual bets. I just take the single lost bet and use that against the more numerous strong side wins. But when I get two lost bets in a row, that is a kind of trigger for me. I step back to see if the sequence is changing. I keep making guesses that the strong side might come back to what it was doing but I do this check and see option as an unfunded guess. I write down the results in my chart with a hyphen indicating an unfunded guess in the win or lose column. If it goes back to the singles on the weak side then I get back in the saddle with real bets. Sort of like putting your money where your butt is.

Some days it's like stuffing your money up your ass. You can't get dream come true sequences that often. But when you do you need to attack the game and take all you can get. Those super wins help round out the full effect of gambling. You will notice that I don't intentionally make super losses. There is no balancing to the super win with super losses if you just de-fund those streaks.

So that leaves the not so super win streaks. I just watch the chip pile. It is an indicator of how the session is going. I take breaks when the session is nothing but a battle just to break even. Virtual bets are a great way to wait out the crud that goes up your butt. This is getting weird. When I'm on a stretch of virtual bets I turn my focus to entertainment, I watch the bet selection and amount of the players around me. They are fun to watch and listen to when they win or lose. After all they are there to lose and have fun doing it.

 

I am engaged to this truth of special periods in random sequences, rhythm's of one type or another which as players of this great game we all know but do not understand. If one happens to be playing a certain betting sequence that corresponds to real time random events that closely match the play then the numbers generated by the wheel will give that play a positive feed back and you will be on a winning streak. In simple terms if the shoe fits then wear it. But Like the man said, step back if the sequence changes.

 

I would like to recall a time to you that I had in Monty Carlo. I was the chief engineer on a Mega Yacht named the Darnice 3 at the time and would venture up to the main square on most evenings after dinner, and pop into the Café de Paris for a glass of Perno and lemonade and a chat to the skiing boys behind the bar, before heading off to Lowes. It was on such an evening that one of the crew stopped and asked me for a loan, he was new to the yacht and Turkish. His position was deck hand. I asked him how much would he like to borrow, he replied 200 Francs. So I gave it to him and I bought him a drink, and I asked him what he would do with it? ' I have found a machine that I can beat!' he told me. Do you always play machines I asked? No he replied I have always played Black Jack. But that is another story and he said thank you and goodbye for now. The next day to my astonishment he gave me back the 200 Francs and said he now had 500 in his pocket! He then told me this amazing story of how he had been in a casino playing blackjack and was on an fabulous winning streak that would be enough to buy himself a boat of his own! But things started to go wrong for him, a woman had moved into the seat next to him that had become vacant and according to him she didn't know the first thing about playing blackjack. As the game went on he began to loose he said because the woman was selecting all of the wrong cards and leaving him with nothing! The upshot was that when he had all but lost all of his winning fortune he grabbed the woman around the throat and started to throttle her! Pulled off by casino staff he was thrown out of the venue. I would have felt a little sorry for him had it not of been for an incident a few days later. But that's another story.

 

Cool man, nice to read gambling tales.... Any idea what machine he claimed to be able to beat?

 

Hi King, No, it was along time a go now. I did once play a bandit that had gone wrong and was paying out on every spin. It was in a night club, the trouble was people started to gather round and even though it was quite dark, I figured it would not be long before management came along so I let the guy next to me who had noticed first take over from me and melted into the night. I did have a really embarrassing incident in the Casino Monty Carlo though once. I was in playing roulette on the lowest level tables and had left the tables to go to one of the bars with a friend for a break. This particular bar was in a very large room full of bandits, we sat and had a drink by the bar and my friend when off to the toilet. I got up and wandered around the machines, now the whole area was deserted and even the barman had disappeared somewhere, when I came across a machine and the tray was full of coins! I looked around and the place was definitely empty, I waited by the machine for a couple of minutes that seemed like forever, no barman, no friend and I thought has the money paid out after someone had just left? Anyway I picked up one of those large drink cups they supply for winnings and began to fill it up with the intension of leaving it with the management and if it was not claimed ask for it. You may be able to guess what happened next! Yes, the bloody player returned, he was Oriental and was he mad! After handing it back to him and trying to explain I gave up and told him he was a fool to just leave the tray like that for so long. I did feel a damd fool myself though!

 

Haha, more fool him... Gone in sixty seconds elsewhere.

 

I agree to this and this is part of my strategy to play roulette and baccarat both.

 

Hoverquad...this part intrigues me..
I have used my skills in computer science to write programs that emulate many possible solutions to winning combinations and test these with what I call a button test..

in my mind there is a flow ..say a phase or frequency....certain bets will come in and out in a phase.ie winning..losing..whats not cycling as it should be means a different a different cycle will be on a complete different bet thats starting its phase or run...
would this be what you are refferring to..

depending what you are doing and knowledge of the game..all bets cannot be losing at the same time..all bets cannot be played at the same time either..is this what you are referencing to with the combinations?

cycling can be as anyone wants to interepret it..