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Baccarat Oscar's grind + baccarat

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by BeJustRich, Apr 23, 2021.

  1. BeJustRich

    BeJustRich Active Member

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    Hello all,

    Well, I was looking in whole forum and I could not find if anyone of you did a long term play by Oskar's grind at Baccarat?
    Bet selection is not important, just curious to know how can lose by this way if for example I have 5000 at my acc and starting by 1... and increasing on wins only?
     
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  2. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    You can always get into a long losing streak and escalate your bets to an enormous level just like using Oscar in any game. I love Oscar but it’s definitely not foolproof.
     
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  3. Roubacc

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    The nemesis to Oscars Grind is if you never win more than one in a row, it will force you to keep increasing your unit size to the point of no return. For example if you LWLWLW, it will escalate your bets very rapidly.
     
  4. soxfan

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    Bbbbbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, cats are talkin oscar grinds, fell like I'm back in the gambling glen, circa 2005 or something, hey hey.
     
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  5. BeJustRich

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    Well, this doesn't affect me.
    Question is about is anyone tried very long time to play it?
    What about if stop bet if lose 3 in a row and restart progression on +10 units (look for the exit)
    for example:
    wwwwwwwwww 123456789+10+11 -12 start 1 again.
    Or if you are negative and you are betting -10 -10 -10 so wait for virtual win and continue +11 +12 +13 +14 - 15 restart from 1
    Does anyone using some way of another this MM ?
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Have Balls and go for the Lung Yeh 2-1-2 HPB series 2-1-2-2-3-3-4-4. a positive progression.


    If a loss occurs back to thw 2-1-2 beginning.



    Created for the 5- 8 times or higher table minimums.



    Play at your own
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    P.S. I have information that many US casinos are already in the HPB scenario. (High Power Bet)
     

  8. BeJustRich

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    123456789....its unlimited until you are wining!
     
  9. Jae

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    Can you lose? Yes. Will you lose? Most likely. Can you win more than you lose? Absolutely.

    I don’t know why Oscar’s Grind doesn’t get more love on here than it does for baccarat use.

    As far as I’m concerned, Oscar’s is the closest system we have in this game to a holy grail.

    The downside is that you need a good sized bankroll. I recommend 2,000 units and only bet banker.

    An example method for 2,000 units assuming you are playing stadium bac or tables with a $5 minimum that you can do increments of $1.00, you can turn $2,000 into $50,000 in a month without possibly coming close to wiping out your bankroll.

    mat Mohegan Sun, from August through November I played stadium bac everyday averaging 12 shoes a day and the deepest my grind ever went was -874.
    In early December I had a bad run that went -1,655 units before recovering. After I recovered from that grind, I did lose about 85 units to commission, but made it back the same day.

    My strategy: I have a goal of 200 units a day. I typically wait for a virtual grind that goes -20 before I jump in. In a lot of cases, the grind recoups in under ten hands and I’m up about 19-20 units after commission. When starting completely fresh with 2,000 units, I’ll go in and play for 10 days until I’ve made 2,000 units. And now my unit size doubles. Then it only takes me 5 days to go up another unit. At that point I’ll play for 5 more days and then reset. I don’t normally reset back to 2,000 units, but spans to what I call “backup bankrolls, so in this instance, I’d now have two bankrolls at say $2,500 a piece and profit in my pocket. When I start fresh with 2,500 units, the extra 500 doesn’t necessarily make me any money, but it helps me get to 4,000 2 and a half days sooner.

    I currently play with $200 units. So when I see my virtual negative 20 and jump in, when it recovers I make about $4,000. This happens on average almost once a shoe.

    Anyways, I totally recommend Oscar’s grind. I think the biggest problem with it is that most people don’t have the proper bankroll to support it. At bare minimum I would never use less than 500 units. Strongly suggest a minimum of a thousand, but feel very confident with 2,000.

    Also, it’s boring if you’re a gambler; but if you are professional and just care about a solid return, invest in it!

    I started using Oscar’s with certain triggers and small bankrolls a few years ago and did great, and eventually I realized I don’t even need to wait for my triggers if my bankroll is adequate.

    I should also mention that if you do have a great trigger, and patience and don’t mind performing tons of virtual bets, you can be very successful with Oscar’s grind with a small bankroll. I made 1.3 million in a little over a year starting with less than $1,000. It wasn’t until august of 2020 that I started using a bigger bankroll of 2,000 units.
     
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  10. BeJustRich

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    Jae! This is what kind of answer I was looking! Thank you so much! I got what I need. I would like to send you PM to share one useful thing which I did developed for get more streaks at Bac.
     
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  11. BeJustRich

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    Bankroll is a key to win Baccarat!
     

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    This is an excellent posting, unfortunate most cats gonna tune out cuz yer talkin REALITIES. Most cats on here wanna engage in miracle, fantasy-lands bullshits and nonsenses where they ain't ever ever ever EVER gonna face any serious adveristy, draws down or clippings at the baccarats table. Most cats ain't serious so mostly pointless to try and talk serious baccarats talks, hey hey.
     
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  13. Jae

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  14. Lungyeh

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    Jae,

    Nice posts. Just to clarify Jae,

    1) what would be your session bankroll in terms of units? And the starting bet is 1 unit?

    2) do you stop to take a big breath when you touch a certain negative position? Or these are the virtual bets you make...?

    3) would it have helped your grind process if you had lost say 3 or 5 units to take a break? Or do you continue with the grind?

    4) if one is at a -ve 7 units position and the following bet of 1 unit wins to give a net -ve position of -6 units, his next bet is 2 units? If he wins his net position is -4 units. The following bet is 3 units? If he wins his net position is -1 unit. The following bet is 2 units?
     
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  15. Jimske

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    About a year ago I saw a new guy who was very happy to tell me that a friend told him of this progression. He was playing black and was doing really well. Made 1k, went home, made 1k went home. He was very happy, came pretty much every day. Then . . . you know what happened, huh? He started losing and whining. I never saw him after that. Did he run out of "balls" Nathan or did he just run out of money? LOL

     
  16. Jimske

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    LOL. You're beginning to sound a lot like our friend over at .CC. Always whining about other peoples' play! It must be frustrating being you, Hugh? Sitting on the holy grail of Baccarat, virtual betting 8 hours a day, scared to reveal the secret bet selection. Sigh.
     
  17. Jimske

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    I think it is pretty apparent that you and Joe are on the opposite sides of theory. Joe relies on bet selection.
     
  18. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Jae Inspiring post, A few questions 1)
    U mentioned ur trigger to bet is Virtual loss -20,units ( 1 unit is $5) with an increment of $1.00 ( 20% increament on base unit) on win so Do u carry forward the losses/profit to the next shoe, & keep on playing unless u are +20units (,$100) that is end of Session 1 OR u keep on playing Continuously unless u are +200units ,because if u end session at +20 units & u start a new session again do u wait for -20 units Virtual loss again?
    U also said we can start with 500 units but recommended is 2000 units,where as u were about to bust when u went -1655 units in early Dec so 2000 units is also not enough?

    Hi, u mentioned 2000 units were recommended & never close to getting ur bankroll wiped out but u were close to getting busted in early Dec when u were -1655 units?
    If after -20 Virtual loss u start betting do u Carry forward ur W/L to next Shoe if u have not attained ur Goal of +20units
    If u attain +20 units do u keep on playing till u have +200units or u stop & Start again, with Virtual loss of -20 again
    For ex A shoe starts with banker streaks /Banker dominant U can't bet because u can't be -20 units Virtually
    Kindly Clarify?
     
  19. Lungyeh

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    Rawinder, I am curious. Do you play online or fly to Sri Lanka for the casinos? Or play online?

    Sorry to read about the deteriorating Covid situation in India. Malaysia, where I am, is also struggling but nowhere near as bad as India.
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

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    @ Jimske, Your question did he run out of money ?


    We only provided a positive progression bit not a full method of play .


    Win goal , rat holing, loss limit,required bankroll as well as bet selection are up to each player.


    So the cat lost. Frankly I dont give a damn.We were not involved.
     
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