Baccarat Oscar's grind + baccarat

The netizens try to come at me with things I already believed long ago as in proficiency in the game. So many are negative about training and others that offer training and knowledge and SYSTEMS for pay I laugh at this nonstop. It is SOME of these people that can save the netizen a huge amount of time and money, but netizens is right hey hey!

My view is that there is an asymmetrical aspect to baccarat like war. Call it abstract if you want. If the Big Road looks terrible then there are likely some trends in one or more Macau Roads. It pays to know when to stick with your baseline way most of the time and know when to look at other factors. Nobody is holding any straight math bro or statistics bro or AI bro from ending baccarat and it still deals 247.

Oscar's Grind and many other progressions are not the best, selection is way more important. The progression gets blamed when it is the selection that is trash.

 

One last try can take you to the country beyond.

 

I'm beginning to think the same, but I haven't given up yet.

I just need to find the time to finish programming various selection criteria to test on my laptop, but it's tough when taking care of 5 kids; 2 of my own plus 3 of my sister-in-laws'. My stupid wife's idea to have them over for almost 2 months for the summer and I get stuck taking care of them more than 1/2 the time which is a total bullshit arrangement.

 

Everything steals time and energy. The Olympics has been a good inspiration not F around with the sideshows.

 

In stadium baccarat does the dealer shuffle the same shoe when it is finished or they exchange between two shoes as in online live baccarat?

 

They have 2 shoes.One is always waiting. I'm not convinced that you have to keep playing the same shoe. Or you can jump to the very next one or or table.

 

If I understood correctly, Jae is playing continuously in the same table. Meaning that he plays the very next shoe. He doesn't wait for the same shoe to be dealt again. Maybe he replies and clarifies that if he still reads the thread.

 

long time lurker who found this strategy back in 2021. After 3 years of on and off playing Oscar's grind.... the verdict was a loss multiple 6 figures at $25 units. Yes there were weeks even month I couldn't lose, but when it did, it busted my full 2500/3000 bankrolls within days of each other. I have thrown in the towel with Oscar's grind. Just wanted to share my experience for anyone playing this strategy, hopefully my loss will serve as a lesson for others.

 

Selection is #1 so it goes back to selecting a shoe, shoe section, and when to exit.

If a progression gets big then that's were a cut can be made and possibly reset with a higher base. If you practice over many shoes with any negative progression then you should find points where the win rate is very low and the size gets big.

 

What about staggered/ increasing flat, Gr8 Players, etc.? Labouchere is very good, but hard to write in fast play.

 

I actually employed a martingale on Oscar's grind. When I busted on $10 unit at one point, I came back with $20 units to recoup, only to bust again the following day of 2500 units. Note this was played strictly to Jae's strategy of waiting for -20 virtual count and betting banker only.

 

@Mars. All negative progressions are ultimately about recoup and therefore are going to require large wagers. Star, Turnaround, Clingy, The 20%, etc.

@Shadymilkman73. Your mistake was using -20 start. As you saw you can get by for a while at -20 if you're lucky. But JAE quickly went to -100 and I believe he adopted a -500. I fooled around with this using live data and have seen numbers get to - 1000+.

But as Mars suggested there's ways to temper this. One way is to not resolve the entire grind. You might quit at the first win or when you're half back to resolving the grind. Another way is to use a cut back when losing. Reduce your wager and continue the grind to just resolve to break even.

Cheers

 

I concur that when you get to a certain low level point like -20 or -100 etc that you don’t try and recoup all. That’s when I would go for a few units’ win and get out.

 

@Jimske

As it is true Jae evolved to -500 count. My last bust from end of September reached as high as -6,000 and was hovering around -4,600 by shoe #11 to which I quit tracking. I already busted my -2,500 by mid of shoe #3. I didn't stick around to see if it eventually recovered but by that point the commission already ate up 2,000+ units alone.

 

Wow! That is some batshit crazy black swan! I went through my live database and was able to cherry pick four random shoes that together hit -1000. It would be interesting to see those eleven shoes of yours. One of the culprits of Banker OG is the escalation that ocurrs with strong chop. I'm guessing you ran into a lot of that in those shoes. And yes , the commission can really kill you high levels

 

Without knowing what type of selection you are working with, I would say 100% of the issue is with selection. 100s of units is like playing max super aggressive bonus ball and not hitting any bonuses.

 

Shady, I will work on bumping this info at some point, but it is in the most active recent threads...

 

I've given up on OG too. Quite some time back. My favorite is still d'alembert. Simple and effective.