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Baccarat Please, your opinions about this system

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by neval, Mar 7, 2021.

  1. neval

    neval New Member

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    Hi all! Please share your opinion about this system. I coped it from another forum.

    Like I did in my previous thread, I am here just to share an experience. I have been playing baccarat for a few years. And have been trying to find a way to beat the game for a long time. I've made over $500k and have lost over $500k (not including recent success). So I have been through the worst with this game. From using progressions, to waiting for triggers, card counting. Nothing has ever worked. Why? Why has always been my question......because when you bet player you have less than a total expectancy of 45% win rate and when betting banker, you have less than a total expectancy of 46% win rate. I know my math explanation is lame, but, basically, what I'm trying to say, is that it is a negative expectancy game. Which is not like I'm saying anything new....but I'm just saying.....you are betting into something that has odds against you every single hand. Doesn't matter what count you use, what trigger you use. If you are using any kind of betting pattern? You will lose. Ten players does not mean a banker will come. Ten bankers does not mean a player will come. The win expectancy is totally individual each and every single hand. And it is not effected enough based on what cards came out, or what cards are left, to get any higher percentage than the two I said above. Over infinity? However, banker wins 50% of the time. No one will live that long to see that. And, even if you did, you would STILL be behind, because of the banker commission.

    If you want to beat baccarat? You HAVE to use flat betting. I have created something that is quite remarkable. It's hard to explain, but, the only way I can explain it, is that I am basically, fighting fire with fire. Baccarat is totally random. And, in that randomness, you have less than a 50% chance of hitting banker or player, over the long run. You have a better chance of hitting head or tails 50% of the time over the long run when you flip a coin. This is true because of the way baccarat is designed. Even 50/50, can't be beaten by progressions. HOWEVER.......baccarat uses cards. Cards, since they have a declining element, cannot be 100% random. Being that there are certain rules that create certain outcomes (stands, naturals, and then 6 card draws), a truly random element CAN BEAT a pseudo random element. This may not make sense to most, but, this is what I have created with my partner (my wife) to beat baccarat. We have, over the past 8 months, tested and tried a very effective flat betting method that has been generating us 30-80 units a day with a max draw down of 4-5 units at any given time. We've gone through many periods of winning over 20 hands in a row. I have never seen anything like that. And these win streaks are not on streaks of banker of player or chops, or twos, or threes....no, these are just streaks of winning hands period.

    What is the secret to our success without giving away the system? Our bet selection is random. Our trigger is random. And our wagers are random. And all three of those change randomly. For random reasons. Nothing we do, has anything to do with banker, player, or the game itself. Yes. 100%, true randomness. And we bet every single hand. On paper? We're up over 1000s of units. In real live play? We're up a fortune. I'm not here to give away my system, sell my system,...I'm only here to share an experience to encourage certain things and share advice.

    First, STAY RANDOM. Don't fall prey to patterns, simple triggers, banker/player tracking.

    Second, don't ever use progressions. If you have to use a progression? Your system is a losing system.

    Third, if you have to use "triggers" that make you wait for certain "conditions"? Then your system is a loser. You have to be able to bet on every single hand. This way? Your system will face all hand combinations.

    Fourth, which is the most important one, TEST YOUR METHOD THOROUGHLY. Just because you beat a few hundred shoes that you recorded from your local casino, does not mean your system is a winner. Test your method against a simulator. A real baccarat random (rng) simulator. If your system, cannot stay positive, winning over 1000 units, flat betting, against a simulator? Then it will not work. Please people....this is VERY important advice. Too many times, people are in such a rush to use a system that has won fairly often enough in the casino. Listen to me when I say this......even if your system beats the casino shoes for a whole year....they can still lose. Here's why. Random results, force your "system" to face more combinations, much sooner. It's like, putting the house edge in your face all the time. You can be in the casino, and not see enough hand combinations to really see the randomness of the game and the winning rate of the house edge for a long time. Due to weak shuffles, overlaps/clumps in the cards, ..etc. etc. This never happens with simulations. Simulations are harder to beat than live cards because they pit you up against the long term odds much more sooner than live cards. So please, test your method THOROUGHLY against simulations for a long time. And set a number. If your system can BEAT a random baccarat simulator and put you in the positive 1000 or more units? Flat betting? Then you have beaten baccarat.

    I am willing to answer any questions. I have lost so much money playing baccarat before discovering what I have discovered and I have finally made all of my money back plus TONS more. I want people to win. But, I cannot reveal my system to anyone, for obvious reasons.

    Using my advice, anyone can create their own winning system!
     
  2. Craps

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    Exactly. This is what all Baccarat prediction programmer says. Your long post have so much contradiction. You said random and then try to make it sound not random.
    How does a simulator works? You input a SEED hand and it will generate results based on algorithm and it will produce results based on all probabilities. In theory, it makes sense but in reality, How many hands do you think an individual would encounter in his lifetime of playing for say 50 years?
    Every individual has his own records and therefore destiny decides and not some common one reason fits all. Anyway, you are totally correct if you are explaining between the House towards the players but NOT the other way around.
    The truth is this. Something even Actuarial Science agree when it comes to gambling.
    INDUCTION & DEDUCTION. You are explaining deduction with your topic but totally missing the induction part.
    And now ,any possible sharing of your approach?
     
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  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Some bull sheet artist.
     
  4. Zhang Wei

    Zhang Wei Active Member

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    You copied from which forum?
     
  5. jbs

    jbs Well-Known Member

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    No, they can't.
     
  6. ehtelgaeb

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    Bbbbbbwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh the alrelax is busy these days, hey hey.
     

  8. Lungyeh

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  9. Zhang Wei

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    I tried random systems before and lost my underwear.
    So I do not believe a random system can achieve a max drawdown of only 5 units.

    Agree with the advice on testing.
    That is exactly what I am doing except that I am not just testing on 1 simulator but on multiple simulators.
     
  10. Johndepz

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    how is it going?
     
  11. Bactz

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    What will it take to get this flatbetting method of yours? Hmm?
     
  12. Bactz

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    So Neval, I have a question: does this system of yours involve having 2 people betting at the same time on the same shoe? Where one person bets banker, and the other person bets player?

    There was a book selling on Kindle that described a certain method as such (not that I purchased it.) It claimed over time baccarat can be beaten using this technique with certain rules in place. It makes me wonder!!?

    Also what is your stoploss?
     
  13. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Baccarat is just another EC game . No magic .
     
  14. Johndepz

    Johndepz Member

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    look up letswin random vs random it can be beaten just have to figure it out
     

  15. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I am no t marri ed t o any game.
     
  16. Johndepz

    Johndepz Member

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    im veey xlose to figuring it out i win about 70% or shoes any help would help
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    good for you.
     
  18. Johndepz

    Johndepz Member

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    i still need help doing it any ideas are welcomed!!!
     
  19. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Be specific what you want.
     
  20. Proofreaders2000

    Proofreaders2000 Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Is there a graph of results?
     

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