Baccarat Proof that Jae's OG System is Validated

I've decided that I would like to serve as Jae's validation, a kind of Lick Observatory, Goldendale, Washington back on June 8, 1918 to prove right or wrong that Einstein's General Relativity was true or not.

In this case we will program the sim together. I will write the algorithm once the rules of the OG system are thoroughly agreed here in discusion.

So I'm looking for examples of the steps, both virtual bets until reaching -20 and the steps that it takes for reaching -$2,000 where the first step unit value is $100.

I also want to get a general consensus on the floating point decimal value for Banker and Player to win a hand. I have 51% Banker and 49% Player. I would like a more accurate percentage value like 51.009 % for Banker. I don't have the actual deeper percentage value and am requesting a number for both that is deeper than an integer value.

If I can get a floating point value in hundredths or thousandths then I would use the relative value in a randomness function to get a fair decision for each hand.

Example this in an x-Talk computer programming language.

Code:

on pickTheNextWinner()
  put random(1000) into jaesMagic
  if  jaesMagic < 491 then
    put "P" into scruffRatShit
  else
    put  "B" into scruffRatShit
  end if
  return scruffRatShit
end pickTheNextWinner()

With this function I can call up a winner with one line of code like this:

put pickTheNextWinner() into playerBankerResult

That will place "P" or "B" into the variable playerBankerResult

So "WE" here at this forum can discuss each line of code in the algorithm and come to agreement on it before including it in the final sim.

I will make the sim available in the software download section.

As usual I will include telemetry on each bet placed and the result, line by line, to validate that the algorithm is performing as agreed by those participating or interested in the validation process.

So I need the step values for each bet from first virtual bet to a full lost $2,000 where $100 is the unit value.

I need a full floating point decimal percentage for Banker or Player to win.

That will get things started in the right direction.

Let's prove that Jae is a genius and might actually be in line for the Nobel Prize.

 

I need a list like this that goes from the first virtual bet at $100 to a lost session at -$2,000.

 

You need to start by waiting for a virtual -20+ and then begin at a specific unit size. I suggest you get to work and put a list together. Or else STFU for once.
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Well, yeah, maybe? So far it is the closest thing. Nobody else has described a complete mechanical method that contradicts that statement. But he did mention in his last post something about MM. Isn't MM a subjective decision? Maybe not but if it is then "mechanical" goes out the window.
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1st 500 shoes in my data base = 17,687 B and 17,163 P for a B advantage = .5075 % and commission = 884. The cleverness of JAE win is, IMO, waiting for the imbalance. I'm pretty sure the numbers would work as well on the P side as well if waiting for the appropriate imbalance.
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I always find it interesting how one's belief system is tied to one's identity. What a scary thing to discover that what one has believed all along is just not true.
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Some here seem to have the attitude that if you are not gambling for a living or are not making tons of money from it you are some how less successful.

Well take my word for it or not by I am personally aware of at least one full time player who wins and am aware of several long time part time players who are consistent winners for many years. All are paying a guessing game using betting style and MM to achieve such. And none of them have any interest in this forum!!
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Kudos to JAE for accumulating $$ from gambling. I predict he sooner rather than later will get sick of it all and decide to open a restaurant or something with his hard earned money. Sitting in a casino day after day on a full time basis is not a life for most. Just another job!
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Each one of Jee's other 3 team mates lost 50 k each in that get rich scheme.


The end of the BIG bankroll. This scheme was doomed right from the beginning.


Even the lady he removed from his avatar.

 

Jee is a nobody and worth the bother .

 

Do you want me to proceed to build a perfect simulation or not? I know that it goes to -20 units before real money is put down.

I have a bet size from the picture for the OG at: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 2,

From that you stay at the current size while you lose and only increase after a win.

Someone here needs to show me the rules of the OG. Do all increases amount to +1 or do they get bigger later on down the progression. Do all losses result in stay where you are? I have never tried to use OG. I just trusted the experts when they say it works about as good as the Martingale in the end. It just slows things down and gives you more steps. In other words it faces the perfect sequence of death enough times that it blows up your bankroll, all of it.

 

I'm one of those guys that need to see the proof. Please post it.

 

Yeah, you can't program claims of disaster or great achievement.

How about a link that I can learn this from. One that reflects the steps that Jae uses for instance.

anyone?

 

OK, I went searching and found this: https://www.supercasinosites.com/roulette/oscars-grind-strategy-for-roulette/

I will use this basic rule then. Stand on all losses and increase by 1 unit after each win.

Are we all in agreement with this so far?

 

There were never any investors. The OG began with a post by the gent from

Iceland and then picked up by JEE. The team a figment of imagination.

The cat from Iceland said he lost money with that system and the Lung Yeh

secretary lost her money too.

Jee is now pulling out of that charade as best he can to cover his rear end .


There never was a loss of 200 k. That too is fiction.

 

So dressing Jae up like lipstick on a pig and serving him on a plater with my simulation is just a massive waste of my time. This place is like Mister Toad's Wild Ride.

 

If this is your proof from your previous post, then I find Jae(not JEE) not guilty, for lack of evidence..

 

Nathan Detroit that is solid detective sheet good for you

 

Gizmotron keep going i am interested

 

Great detective work, but the OG thread you are referring to started last month. I believe I created a thread 3 years ago for the beginning of my journey from $300 using OG.

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/finally-figured-out-something-that-keeps-working.10019/

You always make unfounded cynical claims, in my first thread you said there was a sales pitch on the horizon, I believe you even called me a scammer. But here I am, 3 years later, better than ever, not selling a thing. Openly discussing my success with a completely free strategy.

I have never lost a 200k bankroll as you mentioned. I have 3 partners, but I have have financially backed them all with my money.

Pretty sure everyone on this board knows where I mainly play at, I’ve ran into two members at the casino, one has met my team. And since everyone knows what I look like, it’s not hard to find me as I’m at the stadiums every day. Anyone can feel free to come say hello to us if you’d like. I took down the photo of me and my girlfriend because someone sent me an email suggesting that I do. He said something that stuck with me: “there are old warriors, and bold warriors; but there are no old bold warriors.” And while I’ve still chosen to put myself out there in the open, I did t tho I it was fair or wise of me to put someone that didn’t ask to be put out there—although, I’m sure she probably wouldn’t care. But I realize that there are weird people out here, such as Gizmo, unemployed mentally unstable folks that have nothing better to do than try and disprove someone’s success; which he can’t possibly do.

Why is that? Because I’ve already done it. I have built something great for myself and my friends. I have a pretty awesome life and I’ve worked very hard and put in long hours doing exactly what I’ve been sharing and succeeding with it. My baccarat success story is something that wasn’t dreamed up, it was actualized. I’ve spent the last 3 years building and growing g. Traveling the country visiting different casinos, I even moved 1,200 miles to be near the one that I found to be most beneficial for my style of play.

It doesn’t matter to me if people want to test it, I stopped caring about people telling me it won’t work based off of their invalid claims. People can throw out all of the claims they want that are unfounded. Gizmo says experts have studied/tested my claims and found that it loses. What experts? lol. Everyone here has the ability to test for themselves. At least once a week someone emails me thousands of their own personal shoes that they’ve tested and they give me their results. I’m not sure why they do this, but they do, and sometimes the drawdowns are beautiful, sometimes they are a little rougher than my own experiences, but they are always pretty similar. There are already some members on this forum using this method with their own great results. One publicly acknowledged on the board that they had made over $16,000 a few weeks ago. One member that emails me said he was up over $30,000 a few days ago.

And while I’m glad to see anyone succeed, it doesn’t have any affect on me or my ego.

It must be mind boggling for you, that such a relatively simple mechanical system most likely outperforms everything else that has ever been offered on this board. You once said that OG has no class, but I don’t know what could be classier.

Good luck on your testing Gizmo. I mean that, while it’s all probably a big joke to you, you might actually realize it’s potential and turn your life around. I rarely look forward to anything you post, and while I have little faith in your ability to set out to do what you are proposing—I hope you do. I’m not going to walk you through it in the sense that you’ve been asking as it’s not worth my time, but I think you have the jist of it and should be able to figure out how to program it, that’s out of my realm.

 

OK

So I can't imagine waiting for a losing stretch just to start betting. This is indicative of expecting things to change because it already used up most of the losing domination. Since Player hits are the poison pill in this system, and since I'm the expert here on reading win streaks and losing streaks. I should just let everyone know that the massive and wonderful Global Effect works both ways. In Roulette a global effect can go on for 100 to 150 spins. To put this into context a domination of Players can go on for hundreds of hands.

My guess is that the pattern Player / Banker / Player / Banker murders this system because all winners have a +1 increase on the win and then Player comes up next and kills that increase. At least it looks like that. It also looks like it breaks even too. Just any domination of Player where Banker is a single on the weak side and to have that streak go for a very long time and guess what? That's the perfect killer situation for all this. Banker on the weak side kills this system. Man that was easy enough.


if virtualBets <= to -20 then
put "true" into proceedWithReal
end if

So all I have to do is write a simple system that waits for real bets after -20 is reached.

So the sim will have a running total going on for each hand until it reaches -20 or greater. Then it will start placing real bets into it subtotal container (variable).

Code:

on mouseUp
  global virtualBets, realBets, betValue

  -- put 1 into betValue -- this was done when the program started or when reset is pressed.
  -- put 0 into virtualBets -- this was done when the program started or when reset is pressed.
  -- put 0 into realBets -- this was done when the program started or when reset is pressed.
  -- put "false" into proceedWithReal -- this was done when the program started or when reset is pressed.
  
  put pickTheNextWinner() into playerBankerResult
   if proceedWithReal = "false" then
     if playerBankerResult = "B" then
        add betValue to virtualBets
       --add betValue to realBets -- this won't execute until -20 is reached
       add 1 to betValue
     end if
      if playerBankerResult = "P" then
        subtract betValue from virtualBets
        -- subtract betValue from realBets -- this will happen when -20 is reached
      end if
  end if

  if proceedWithReal = "true" then
     if playerBankerResult = "B" then
        -- add betValue to virtualBets -- this is no longer is necessary
        add betValue to realBets 
       add 1 to betValue
     end if
    if playerBankerResult = "P" then
        -- add betValue to virtualBets -- this is no longer is necessary
        subtract betValue from realBets 
     end if
    end if
  end if
 end mouseUp

This is much easier in the development code entry window.

But it's a start

 

So you are in line for the Nobel Prize. I just want to be the first to validate it. I'm your Lick Observatory at Goldendale, Washington back in 1918 for Einstein.

Let's proceed. I have almost all the algorithm written here in a posting window. I just have to add stop win and stop losses and a repeat until (win or lose) happens. Then I will add telemetry to each hand as it goes along, per line, in a text field.

What do you think so far Jae?

 

Since 2006 I have built sims to test every good looking system and a few that some of us tested just to see if we could beat the most unlikely scenario situations. Nobody ever tested a system that ended up beating the casino. I built hundreds of sims. It happens to be one of my favorite things to do. These were almost always other people's ideas. I like posting the telemetry from the actual sims because they end up telling the whole true story. It the very reason I put per line telemetry in every sim. It even in my RR practice software.

So In a day or too I will have this done. I will publish the entire algorithm here in this thread and place the software for download in the download section. --UNLESS of course it really beats the casino. Then I will just disappear and go for it. Funny how that works. I'd like a few bucks before the shit hits the fan.

 

Common sense in the world of gambling GIZ said it all, chop chop chop will kill you if you are chasing for the banker the math hits you at 50% 52% EVEN AT 55% AND YOU FAIL TO RECOVER YOU ARE DEAD MEAT, Before covid i was at BM was leaving when i noticed a shoe of 21 players ending this shoe, cleaned the table out, waited for next shoe all players sprayed for bank machine and guess what comes out of the next shoe 12 players, this system does not rely on %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% it is what happened in the past will reverse it self and that is gamblers fallacy, i know most dealers at local casino for i was there every day 7 days a week so i said to the dealer about the player swing and how it cleaned everyone out his reply was yesterday i set a record 26 players in a row

 

Err.... Sessions ends and the win is not 1 unit but 0.6 unit.