Roulette Ramblings of the Inept for the Misfits

I said it many time before: MOST PEOPLE on this forums and other forums test their ideas for a couple of hundred spins and say "SEE". DO it a couple 1000 times more and then I'll say "SEE"

 

4 3 3 3 3 2
4 3 3 3 3 2
5 3 3 3 3 2
5 3 3 3 3 2
5 3 3 3 4 2
5 3 3 3 4 2
5 3 4 3 4 2
5 3 4 3 4 2
5 3 4 3 4 2
5 3 4 4 4 2
5 3 4 4 5 2
5 3 4 4 5 2
5 3 5 4 5 2
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 3 5 4 5 3
5 4 5 4 5 3
5 4 5 4 5 4
5 4 5 4 6 4

Test 1 54 spins in total before the first 6 came in. We do have to bet all sets that are about to finish right?

 

3 1 4 3 4 3
4 1 4 3 4 3
5 1 4 3 4 3
5 1 4 3 4 3
5 1 4 3 4 3
5 1 4 3 4 3
5 1 4 3 4 3
5 1 4 3 4 4
5 1 4 3 4 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 1 4 3 5 4
5 2 4 3 5 4
5 2 4 3 5 4
5 2 4 4 5 4
5 2 4 4 6 4

61 spins before the first 6

 

Every fallacy works in the short term. From the last decade, Turbo went from cold numbers that had to hit more than 1/37 to recover their negative std deviation, to the hot numbers because some of them will continue to be hot and we needed only few of them to stay hot to be in profit every single time but with an aggressive progression (1-2-4-8-16 or 1-5-25) and now we have a cold number inside a hot set of numbers that is due to hit better than 1/37.

 

Hear Hear and that whats this thread is all about INEPTNESS...

 

I'd like to carry on; but got to finish
Not bad for 103 spins. The hare didn't win either

 

I wish that were true. My first student made more than 10,000 spins at 60 spins per session average and ended up with a 2 to 1 win to loss ratio. There is a general consensus that people trying this are getting a better win to loss ratio per bet after just two weeks. There is another person here that is far better than 2 to 1.

It is my opinion that there are more. It's not easy showing people how to actually beat Roulette because there is so much skepticism. You really didn't mean that you will ever say "SEE."

I'll send an army of skilled people for you to puzzle your mind over. You do want to be too late don't you? We need people like you to be too late. These archives of the too late will make fun reading. Have you ever heard this one? Expert; "a has been, a drip."

 

Yes and tell me in all HONESTLY from those 10000 spins on how many spins did they ACTUALLY placed a bet?!?

Only spins played count!

Dont compare apples and oranges.

10000 spins from which 10% is played is not the same as betting 10000 spins...

 

Why should anyone tell you shit? Just so you will like this, all spins were bet on by the first student. The virtual bets were not added until the end of the time spent together. You are so full of horse crap.

My video examples are almost all bets. Very few virtual bets are used. If there is a percentage it's 90% or higher.

 

Again this example doesnt SHOW the REAL DATA.

A. How many SPINS did it take on average BEFORE the first second third and fourth horse crossed the finish line. Do they ALWAYS go below 1:37 on average? NO I tested this! Your not showing that data!

B.
You admit that- run #8 was most interesting.
The 7th qualified "horse" won the race - and the 2nd (would have been played) came in
next - in time, below the amount of spins needed to beat the house payout.

So what about horse 1 3 and 4??? They dont COUNT? They will bring the average BACK to 1:37 cause they take LONGER than 37 spins to finish!

 

Here I programmed it for you in EXCEL once again you are welcome to the file.

I did 6 sets of 6 numbers EXCLUDED the zero, (even better odds right?)

RESULTS of the first second third and fourth horse on HOW MANY SPINS it took at the time of QUALIFICATION (meaning 5 numbers where hit and betting the last number in the set.) to the finish line.

On Average where they the FIRST ones to finish YOU BET YA! But how many spins did it took??? Well here you go!

1 X 151 6 29 X
39 155 25 X X 4
65 X X 21 137 82
5 18 9 X 113 X
11 75 X X 75 119
4 X 13 X 38 17
X 8 12 93 2 X
X 18 X 8 1 26
5 37 94 68 X X
112 16 2 X 11 X
X 24 X 69 8 5
137 X 1 50 X 93
X X 24 43 7 41
X 1 96 10 28 X
48 3 46 18 X X
X 1 X 95 29 58
23 16 X X 9 12
66 27 4 X 82 X
X 54 18 83 21 X
5 X 44 48 X 31
46 X 7 31 14 X
X X 16 9 77 100
32 12 12 X 11 X
25 X 87 35 X 106
X X 65 127 31 25
32 X 20 X 19 20
8 X 4 X 16 24
X 31 X 56 39 1
72 X 27 61 17 X
117 X 34 X 92 1
28 16 X 28 136 X
X 9 42 X 53 59
5 80 79 X X 98
77 6 X X 7 19
10 45 6 X 15 X
51 X 7 5 42 X
42 49 13 13 X X
27 77 X 3 X 45
X 56 X 11 13 17
36 X 21 X 16 44
5 3 X X 95 4
50 36 X 13 X 94
7 20 22 X X 21
13 133 X X 72 84
153 X 6 27 X 1
35 X 6 5 10 X
X 5 25 34 14 X
59 80 X 35 141 X
4 X 12 59 X 107
11 X 14 41 5 X
2 58 X X 18 72
9 21 X 46 75 X
116 1 45 25 X X
16 X X 16 4 31
111 21 X X 90 49
2 7 8 X 2 X
X 39 51 6 X 14
50 39 X X 68 17
17 21 4 X X 15
27 18 6 X X 68
1 2 X X 22 46
37 41 X 55 28 X
X 59 X 98 9 11
30 15 X X 178 23
10 X 17 24 X 28
25 X X 11 17 130
5 X X 17 20 4
1 34 49 X X 50
2 104 X X 5 4
4 22 X X 16 19
29 35 X X 77 20
25 18 32 31 X X
46 3 20 X 93 X
29 5 90 X X 5
38 3 42 28 X X
34 X 19 13 X 61
X 5 6 X 41 33
19 X 91 5 26 X
13 45 10 X 38 X
41 53 X 32 X 67
16 X 38 X 9 122
X 9 22 7 26 X
22 X 69 X 47 7
123 X 34 X 40 29
X 59 X 15 4 18
59 59 24 X X 83
43 35 1 X 2 X
33 49 X 64 X 2
97 X 42 17 X 12
34 8 26 X 47 X
X 46 91 X 56 13
44 X 152 90 6 X
X 82 15 X 11 9
36 X 12 6 21 X
30 71 X 54 91 X
X 7 30 35 X 32
6 26 X 89 28 X
3 11 X X 61 6
X 108 X 51 6 9
X X 35 11 9 58
X 42 24 72 X 67
6 29 X 29 X 18
18 X 36 9 36 X
23 150 20 7 X X
14 29 28 X 58 X
7 2 X X 17 33
X X 21 34 10 36
7 X 118 63 X 6
X 40 66 22 20 X
5 52 52 X X 34
X X 4 72 62 24
8 33 59 X 82 X
2 10 X 23 X 23
21 22 X 39 X 2
X 10 47 X 5 12
51 11 X 42 X 101
19 26 51 X 9 X
X 49 X 6 20 192
X X 13 54 60 7
30 X 121 94 X 40
4 X 39 109 11 X
3 X 6 13 11 X
102 5 1 X 154 X
16 11 1 70 X X
X 40 X 9 43 66
X X 2 2 20 27
57 X 36 25 11 X
11 39 X 1 12 X
15 19 X 39 X 34
9 X X 18 50 34
37 62 21 X 18 X
22 X 8 5 63 X
X 49 30 X 14 8
21 X 44 100 X 21
63 12 X 22 X 23
X 51 X 24 10 3
23 X 23 17 X 23
33 X 48 35 X 21
88 37 X 14 15 X
46 3 X 48 1 X
X 4 X 30 51 145
130 10 7 X 78 X
15 1 X 95 103 X
7 35 24 X 20 X
36 29 X X 3 30
X 1 X 35 25 38
10 103 46 19 X X
85 X 5 X 72 2
X X 106 51 67 26
X 52 X 41 55 25
X 49 71 23 X 128
2 37 8 39 X X
27 X 17 117 X 78
10 X 69 X 17 5
35 X X 19 12 108
85 10 X 10 X 18
X 3 5 44 28 X
X X 65 1 29 100
73 X 6 2 1 X
X 27 91 12 11 X
7 54 53 X X 9
31 99 X 32 14 X
X 5 26 X 42 72
157 6 X 4 6 X
17 X 11 69 8 X
63 X 7 21 X 28
27 X 121 5 109 X
X 16 40 X 13 38
23 1 41 X X 30
X 71 66 X 116 12
12 61 X X 8 18
3 7 50 82 X X
38 X 138 X 82 7
4 X X 2 2 67
70 X 38 29 X 14
X X 12 8 8 34
X X 42 9 43 20
X 9 X 20 27 42
18 X 18 36 37 X
X 37 20 X 17 20
X 34 2 X 17 38
56 X 1 15 28 X
X X 4 71 28 71
X X 173 17 59 12
2 19 13 X X 29
34 12 X 19 92 X
X 44 11 61 X 26
2 4 32 X X 34
X 19 107 21 X 74
X 40 88 2 X 91
43 13 3 X 20 X
8 4 9 29 X X
20 X 24 X 19 20
11 60 X 2 68 X
X 34 21 39 X 16
X 8 4 X 36 37
23 X 33 13 X 34
18 122 X 109 X 2
88 11 16 99 X X
34 X X 25 142 14
8 91 X X 12 18
32 63 49 X 9 X
29 102 36 X X 47
X 39 10 95 X 29
X 1 13 X 35 5
X 76 X 67 48 16
57 10 26 X 70 X
6 9 40 X X 105
X 20 X 50 41 26
13 5 30 X 28 X
59 9 7 47 X X
21 87 X 13 X 3
47 X X 14 2 50
16 37 X 34 X 110
5 5 X X 20 28
66 13 X 43 49 X
X 2 158 22 11 X
28 37 X X 10 2
69 X X 60 10 11
15 29 182 X X 82
X 3 70 27 12 X
54 X 10 71 55 X
115 38 X 27 X 47
20 X 72 X 10 22
16 118 24 17 X X
X 11 X 130 11 52
X 13 13 17 5 X
14 57 X 55 15 X
28 X X 9 18 13
32 X X 17 13 17
20 55 X X 16 37
14 67 9 5 X X
68 45 X X 28 86
14 X 33 91 51 X
X 10 2 X 12 92
17 4 30 X X 31
X X 67 20 80 106
26 X X 51 28 2
41 195 9 X 7 X
3 X 37 X 7 7
X 42 X 8 3 108
56 62 X 20 X 2
15 30 26 X X 28
X 16 X 2 15 28
X 129 17 X 6 81
X 157 X 42 44 5
X 1 32 36 93 X
X 8 64 6 X 62
50 11 X 5 X 2
16 11 1 2 X X
30 45 10 X 21 X
19 X 53 6 32 X
X 14 X 64 6 35
X 80 14 X 4 44
58 31 X X 19 16
X 28 85 1 X 11
85 2 X X 19 3
X 20 126 X 45 9
28 17 X 14 X 1
X 42 42 49 41 X

on AVERAGE 35.8

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So AGAIN where is the ADVANTAGE???????

 

36-35.8= +0.2 lol

 

Hey turbogenius, I have ignored ka2 as well as bago and a few others because they enjoy derailing ANY topic that involves anything outside the box. Cuz, you know, one in thirty something chance and all that... So with that said I would appreciate any more info on bet selection you can give. I understand you don't want to give your "exact method", but a nudge in direction after creating a new set... After you place the first unit on the lead horse. Any more "nudges" are appreciated brother!

 

I'm going to make a new thread to cover this topic specifically - not the bet selection that I use but perhaps a better explanation of how and why it works.

Since there are a few people who still don't understand the basic concept of this (and on other forums where it's been now brought up as well) - I'll explain it again but in even clearer examples.
At that point - there's nothing else I can do. If this more simplistic explanation doesn't do it - nothing will help these people.
The misfits and nay-sayers are fine, they are either pretending that it makes no sense to them of have no understanding of basic logic or math - but regardless, the post will clear that up for anyone else who
is confused.

 

I'm working on horses that are going into their 4th repeat. Helps bring the number choices down. Hey turbo, I'm interested in getting in touch with jekhb1976. Any communication lines open to him?

 

I'll see what I can do

 

To all people who call me a misfit or a naysayer.

All I did was to start this thread as a warning. Do I believe turbo believes he has something, yes.

But, all the examples are not better than random. Why people are mad about me showing that data???

Yes horses who are closer to the finish line have more chance to finish first. But its about the cost(spins) that count in the end, dont we all agree?

Im NOT an AP player, dont want to be, especcially not with hiding a contraption somewhere to use the balistics.

I always have an open mind. And I believe in 37 spins you will never see 37 unique spins. So maybe there are other phenomenoms to exploid.

But if the test show that an idea is not better than random. And the HARD DATA show this, why shoot the messenger? And even more worse continue with that SAME idea??? Thats just madness...

 

The 1st 2 wins are using race analogy.

The last is using the 4 hottest; with 1-5-25. Didn’t use the 25; but made a nice profit. Still on the same stream, so 105 spins in total; 2 ways from Turbo riddles!!

So Ka2 how do you want people to play?

 

I dont understand the last one is using the 4 hottest?

 

You are..partly correct. Aside from one or two occasions (which is very rare to unlikely as you progress the spins) you dont actually bet on cold numbers. You bet on 2's to become 3's, on 3s to become 4's etc. See Naughty But Nice Tables.

Yes please. Although I *think* I get it, I would like it to be summarized without going through needless dissagreements (needless due to the fact that if they look closer those points are invalid)

EDIT: Hmm multi-quote doesnt work as expected, sorry about that but you can link on the original post at least.