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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by Jimske, Jun 17, 2018.

  1. Jimske

    Jimske Member Founding Member

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    Okay. I'll put this under Baccarat because? No reason. Anybody who wants to talk JAE triggers can do so under his thread.

    Random definition is the main issue. Can mean a lot of things but if we consider it mathematically means patterns that are not predictable, no? I think that's what Turbo Genius is alluding to.

    So, IMO, the argument first becomes an issue of prediction rather than randomness. Like my friend Lani (great programmer) used to say, "Doesn't matter if the outcomes are random or not, show how to predict an outcome." (paraphrase). But we can still argue randomness and then predictability.

    So we got Gizmo, JAE, McVince (others at BTC) says they can and do predict outcomes. Well, apparently these are the best kept secrets in a world where secrets can rarely be kept! LMAO.

    How did I get the last 3,334 wagers placed with a 53.66% win?
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'll tell you my secret, mainly because you think it's a secret. I don't think I can predict anything based on past spins. Now it's your secret. I don't teach anyone that past spins predict anything. You haven't been listening or you like hearing something you think is what I have been talking about for the past 12 years. Either way, I would appreciate being left out of that group of people that you just included.
     
  3. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gizmo,

    I see you and a few of the other forumtards are now going to be openly selling your scams on the betselectioncc forum.

    [​IMG]

    Just an FYI to the forum owner. He's on the hook if a forumtard buys and loses using a system that another forumtard sells.
     
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  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm glad you noticed all that Xander (ha ha ha muted) It's all sophistry. You are so easy to bait.
     
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    If anyone places bets, they create a win/loss data track. The entire thing is after the fact. From that data track you can see trends just like the candlestick charts for day trading. There are people in this world that day trade the stock market and the commodities markets. They do it on swings. They do not do it on prediction. They do it with money management limits and timing. They guess.

    That's exactly what I do on a Roulette table. Now you don't need to pay me $3,000 and I don't have to bore anyone with remedial randomness studies that are clearly offered for free.
     
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  6. Jimske

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    You're right, I haven't been listening. I don't really follow your stuff. Nothing personal. I don't play roulette. I started this thread for anyone wanting to talk about random as having to do with outcomes and predictions.

    Feel free not to participate in this thread. Start your own thread teaching anything you want - or not.
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's OK. I get maligned by just about everyone no matter what thread it is. But one thing that is new. And I don't really expect anyone to look, but nobody can see the full effect of my global effect in the games of Baccarat, Craps, and Blackjack. They only have two data streams to try and see the effect. I have 24 data tracks to watch for it. This is why I see it at least once a week. It could go a month or two in the other games.
     
  8. Jimske

    Jimske Member Founding Member

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    I Got no clue what "global effect" means or is. A prety simple game to me.

    Discipline, betting, structure, money management, defined plan. Practice garners experience.. It's not complicated.
     
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  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    All those things are necessary. It's just that the global effect is something new and unique. It is so powerful and such an opportunity that it makes Ed Thorpe's 'Beat the Dealer' a child's toy. Now I've chosen to do it this way. Just a handful of people smart enough to get it from me where I hid it in plain sight. So what if giving it away is stupid. Nobody ever said that human nature was smart.
     
  10. Sharptracker

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    The two main features of random is You don't WHEN and you don't know HOW it will manifest. There's only people surfing onto the swing 's curve.
     
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Grand achievement. You opened your eyes. Now take the next step. You look like you just left magical thinking behind. So what is the next step you might ask. I've only told people for years. Perhaps you can guess at it.
     
  12. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Been working on an idea. Looking for opinions.

    Abstract:

    Reading Randomness: The Book

    This book sets out to solve many beliefs and opinions that are just theory and not absolute or objective fact. The mere existence of newly presented evidence will force thinkers to revaluate their positions of timely held beliefs.

    My name is Mark. I’m going to put down in writing the culmination of the past 12 years research into many long held truths and axioms regarding how to really beat the casino. Yes, it’s a so called get-rich-quick book through gambling. There’s one thing different this time. Because this has been done before. Ed Thorpe wrote ‘Beat the Dealer’ and that book changed the world. This is another one of those tell all books. It will change the world and its beliefs about what is going on all around you.

    Psychologists have conducted many experiments with people to see what they think or to find out what their perception of randomness is. Most of these experiments go along the lines of things like “clustering illusion” and strange or magical forms of fallacies. But what they don’t do is actually investigate what randomness really is, like on a Roulette wheel & table for instance. There is a world of randomness characteristics that exist because I bothered to classify them in the first place. They did not exist except in descriptive words or terms that you know already so that you can relate to them with. I do that right off the bat in this book. I’ll go on to show how to use my free software in open source format so that you can compile it for free on your own computers. That way there is no chance of getting mal-ware, trojans, or viruses.

    With my list of characteristics, my free software charting program for practice, and my years of experience perfecting several useful methods and tactics your mind will be opened to a genuine gap that is part of the continual failings by most gamblers. I will show you how to specifically target sequences in randomness and to exploit them.

    I will dispel decades and even centuries of well held beliefs. And it will start a firestorm of debate. Just what you want to hear, right? This effects the treatment of problem and addicted gamblers too. It has ramifications on what probability really means. It takes on the myth of the “House’s Advantage.”

    I’ll show the evidence, the world can go ahead and explain it.
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    I would like to pre fund this book because when it comes out it will shake up the gambling industry. And with that there goes the chance to make much off of gambling after this. It will take a while. It usually does. The casinos will need to adjust to it.

    Then there are the “mathBoyz,” as we call them, in the gambling forums. They tend to be frequentist in nature, coming from the absolutism of probability side of statistics. They will want to make their marks on this topic.

    There are even gambling addiction health care professionals that should look at this book very closely. Their assumptions on risk and reward are going to be questioned or at least reconsidered. It’s not the math that you think it is. It would be best if they moved up a level to a more objective perspective. That will be shown clearly. This alone could help people. It will be explained how that works for them. It will give the therapist and addiction specialist a much stronger understanding of the real mind set of the addicted gambler. It will make getting to the first step easier. It will develop a stronger bases for trust.

    So as an incentive to reward people that donate $50 or more I will run a pre distribution for all those contributors that have made $50 or more donations. This should give each $50 or more contributor a 100 days head start. If a person lives outside the USA I would want that extra shipping cost to be added to their donation. After the 100 days start I will place the book up for sale to everyone.
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    other stuff I had written:

    What You Will Learn:

    I thought I would begin with my preparation and tactics walking into a casino. Over the years I became aware of chemical changes occurring in my body. Anticipation of unclear tactics left me wide open to dopamine and adrenaline reactions while driving to the casino in my car. Once walking into the casino the effect became even more pronounced. This mood change causes a person’s brain to leave the logical portion of the brain behind and shifts them into the pleasure and reward center of the brain. This is where it gets really bad. Once most people leave the logic center of their mind behind they no longer are concerned about losing. And that is the lesson regarding staying on method and tactic.

    Now, armed with a tactic to guard against these changes, I stay focused on the task at hand.

    You will be taught how to assess the current conditions and opportunities, how to proceed strategically. You will specifically be able to discuss and understand every phase of the method.

    Each person here has a unique experience with regards to each tactic in the method. I know I won’t be able to keep minds from wondering. At the top of each step will be the basic tactic. We will discuss it at length so it is clear to everyone. This is a way better format for teaching than one on one discussions.

    So the first topic is staying in the logical mind. That is easily accomplished by having a logical tactic to follow.

    The first step is to observe for opportunistic characteristics of randomness.
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    Just brainstorming the idea.
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    If you don't like that perhaps this will cheer you up:
     
  14. Sharptracker

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    Why didn't you create a dedicated topic? This kind of request must have its own topic, well i think...

    And good luck with it, because you know when it comes to this area, it is simply a question of marketing...
     
  15. Sharptracker

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    I would want to take the curve when it's getting high of course!

    Still, nothing in my opinion says when it starts and when it ends...
     
  16. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have always tried to bury important things I had to say in obscure threads. I've done this on purpose intentionally to keep it difficult to find by outsiders. I will get a few opinions for now and that will be good enough. All you have to do is look how I first disclosed things like my list of the characteristics of randomness. It's posted in an anonymous thread. Very few things are posted with their own threads. I did it this way to keep it a little more difficult to find. BTW, you are the first to say something in 12 years. So give yourself a Kewpie Doll.
     
  17. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The next step is in learning and later knowing how to take chances and have that work out to be effective enough to give you an eventuality of more wins than losses. I say "knowing how to live with it." I mean knowing how to live with losses while you wait to attack and destroy the coincidental opportunity.
     
  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Reading Randomness is a specifically laid out pragmatic methodology. It knows what to do in all situations. It knows how to succeed where blind rules get killed by perfect sequences. Funny that perfect sequences thing. It's pure randomness that kills rule based mechanical systems. That's ironic. You must at least know a little about randomness to understand why your mechanical HG systems fail. Let's call that the first lesson.
     
  19. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I say "I mean knowing how to live with losses while you wait to attack and destroy the coincidental opportunity."

    Turbo suggests a knowledge of eventuality. Ken knows of both an eventuality and a coincidental opportunism. I'm the one that suggests having fun while influencing people. Go figure. There is one other too. Spike was a scared to tell the truth contributor. Snowman was a POS. He still is.
     
  20. John Blerg

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    Random also means busting a cherry. Do you like licking an ice cream cone while you're checking that column system? Curious how it works.
     

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