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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    AQ perfect day for nuts and martingale promoters . winners all around .
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Magic beans. The marquee does not make you lose money. The space between your ears makes you lose money. These billboards are there to tempt those using gambler's fallacy to make bad decisions. When ever anyone thinks that something is due to happen or must happen they are a sucker. These suckers almost always bet against the trend. The trend is not due either. They just happen without any cause or effect. It's just a coincidence. And adding to that disagreement, if you don't know how to win then you are a sucker just walking in the door of a casino. Does that make the door a mechanism for you to lose money?
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Flat betting with the reading randomness skills is the best way to go. You need a smaller sized bankroll and it will dig holes slower and with not as big of a bight when it does lose a bet. I know the videos use double the bet at times. Getting three net wins is a grinding out the won sessions technique. It is the only thing that is proving the most effective against the single bet house advantage. Timing is everything because virtual bet selections reveal current conditions at no expense. So It's not a flat bet all the time method.
     
  4. Jono1167

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    Much busier week than expected, but I have completed the last lot of results. In previous sessions I experimented with a labby, but for this one I mostly kept it flat-bet. Because of this I played a lot more conservatively. Some sessions were up and down and when I got back to recovery, I cashed out with one or two net wins. Other sessions flowed nicely and it was easy to get three net wins.

    Overall still comfortably in front....

    Sessions 67 - 100
    78 net wins. 23 net losses
     
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  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    All I can say is wow. Maybe you have discovered a better way to play this. You should compare long term Labby results against flat betting results. The first student produced 2 to 1 results where the odds are 1 to 1 at best, and even that 1 to 1 would be unbelievable at a pure 1 to 1, 50 / 50. He did this without the virtual bet being introduced until the last week. You have had this all along. But to produce 5 to 1 against a 1 to 1 game is sort of fabulous in fact. I'm too good of a teacher ( just kidding). Do you have those first 100 sessions saved by any chance? You might want to post them, if you do, for historical sake. This is like the people from the Lick Observatory going up to Golden Washington to photograph a Solar Eclipse in order to prove Einstein correct. In this case there is no known math for this yet. But the evidence will some day be beyond controversial.

    Other people should start getting better than 1 to 1 results too. Even 1.5 to 1 will shake the foundations of known mathematics. Just watch the race for the Nobel Prize when this gets started in the academic world. Watch how fast I'm shown the door with my hat and coat. I'm genuinely starting to enjoy this. If this does end up going to scientific research and peer review then it will be fun see the basic math formula that will have wide ranging applications related to other fields in statistics and probability studies, not to mention the stock market.

    256 / 47 = 5.446809

    If it were 47 wins divided by 47 losses it would be 1 to 1.
     
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  6. Jono1167

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    Because these are test sessions, I'm able to play with confidence. No question, I will play a lot more conservatively when real money is involved. Also, the progression helped in the earlier sessions.

    The progressions create a dilemma. No question they can help the session move along at a good pace, but you always know that there is the potential to dig yourself into a hole quickly. If a progression is going to be used, then the labby probably isn't the answer. It can be volatile.

    I might try a few more tests on the weekend. I will need to take it up another level soon though...!

    Cheers Mark
     
  7. Jono1167

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    Mark, this is considered quite a safe progression. I wonder if this would be good to use with ‘Reading Random’.

    https://www.rouletteforum .cc/index.php?topic=5010.0

    I might have a play around with it this weekend.
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This could be interesting if you still use virtual bets in your charts. I'm sort of doing this already with 2, 1 & 1, 2 where you return to 1 after you get the losses back. Just leave out the "Up & pull part at the start and begin with 1. And the Marti would change from 1, 2 and back to 1, to 1, 2, 3, and back to 1. I would not go as deep as 4 and 5. That would mean that you are paying your way through a very bad session.
     
  9. gizmotron

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    This progression would need a much larger bankroll and requires you to play and pay through very bad grinding downward patches of a session, even using virtual bets. When someone starts at 1 and stays at 1 or 0 then they don't dig huge holes. You also make more thought-out bets when you do fund them. In a single word, it's a lazy way to play and that leads to making mistakes. You also play much longer always trying to recover. When you play longer you end up playing through bad stretches. Laziness leads to paying thru bad stretches. So just virtual bet thru bad stretches and use a smaller bankroll. It's the same thing. You just do without the holes. Not paying your way deep down is the same as paying your way back out. It takes the pressure off too. It feels good to not go deep in the first place. It's like getting a whole bunch of wins. It takes a bunch of wins to get out of deep holes.
     
  10. Nathan Detroit

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    Gizmotron ,


    With the above gr8plaer progression what size of a bankroll is mandated playing at a $ 10 Min table ?


    That should be an eye opener to begin with .



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  11. gizmotron

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    I actually encountered this before so I will address it again. Some people say that the minimum chip value is $10 chips so 18 numbers would be $180 for a base valued minimum bet. I have been playing $10 tables where you must place at least $10 worth of chips on the inside and at least $10 on each outside bet. In that case the minimum bet would be $10. So $1 chips are enough for a $10 table where each bet is $18.

    So The bankroll is $126 to flat bet and $756 to use that progression to the extension of level three only. You would lose after not achieving a positive win by 21 net losses. But if you flat bet for 21 net losses, digging a shallower hole as you lose, Then you would only need $378 for a bankroll. To me the long drawn out war is better battled in a smaller fox hole.
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

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    I am letting the Cat out of the bag : With that Gr8player progression there are more losers than winners leaving the table.


    A sharp and experienced players should be ready to leave the table within 10 or 11 spins .


    Either having reached his win goal or slight loss with no damage to the bankroll .


    ND
     
  13. gizmotron

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    This is in regards to that progression used in conjunction with the "randomness guessing" skills. Nobody knows when the effectiveness is going to be in favorable conditions. Putting a 10 or 11 spins restriction on randomness is like telling a Brahma Bull that you are entitled to 8 seconds every time you jump on or when you fall of your surfboard at Pipeline just make sure that there is more than three feet deep water between you and the reef as 20 billion tons of water smashes you into the bottom. It's randomness. You will suffer great losses if you think that these skills punch a clock. Your suggestion might apply in some magical world but it is worthless as a suggestion in the real world. Has magic fairy dust fallen on you? Are you really this bad of a gambler? No wonder everything is for entertainment value only. You seem to be entertained by interjecting axioms and platitudes of old wive's tales. You have been this way for decades. I don't understand why.
     
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    I gave this a test last night. You’re right, you get lazy and suddenly find yourself at level three. A big loss is inevitable.... I’ll stick to flat-bet. It’s tried and tested and works well with your method.
    Cheers Mark
     

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    One thing I know is NEVER mess with any progressions if you have a flat bet advantage. I learned this from forex.
     
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    Very true. If you have a flat bet advantage, it is the best. You can only alter the size of your bet with accumulating wins to win even more and faster, no need for progression.
     
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    Despite the fact I believe you are a fake profile, do you consider averaging down/up a progression in the forex game?.
     
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    Indeed, even flat betting you can suffer big drawdowns despite having an edge. Only on simulators you are comfortable with a long lasting big red amount that will eventually turn green, but let's not tell stories here, nobody would replay such session with his own real money, knowing that in the long run you would go bankrupt.

    The system players argue that something is due that's why they believe winning is guaranteed, but they don't know when their pattern or what they are looking for (cold number, last number missing in a street etc) will occur.

    If I asked TurboGenius how he would try to beat Horse Racing, he would probably tell me the favourite is due to win a race during the day, and he would use a progression until he is in profit, because this pattern is due. Not only it is not due because there are some days the favourite does not win any race, but the drawdowns would be enormous and you would shit in your pants when you have to bet several thousands $ on a 1,5/1 favourite.

    So, I hope people realize it is the bet selection quality that matters, and it means to be patient because they do not occur often. I believe it is true for the stockmarket/forex, horse racing, blackjack.

    Best Regards.
     
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    This is not a fake profile. However, I am not a girl so that is not me in the profile picture lol. I just thought she looked hot. My profile clearly says male, age 44, which I am. I do not mess with forex anymore as I lost a lot of money in it years ago. I did take some training courses and they all said never to raise your lot size after a losing trade. That can be applied to gambling too, but ONLY if you have a flat bet advantage.
     
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    You can not have flat bet advantage in a purely random game. Physics based edge are all not scientifically established and accepted ones. Statistical method of card counting in Blackjack can not be used practically in a casino.
     

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