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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Retrospecting, what a concept. Someone came up with "random guessing" as a description of process here. But that does not actually fit very well with what is going on as a process. So I decided to formalize this. I came up with positive synchronistic formation recognition based on the function of recognition of coincidence in time, bound with an acceptable ratio of favorable results. So to simplify that you break it down to Coincidence Optimization.

    Perhaps this is not unknown math after all. Look at this work being done:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimation_of_distribution_algorithm

    "Estimation of distribution algorithms (EDAs), sometimes called probabilistic model-building genetic algorithms (PMBGAs), are stochastic optimization methods that guide the search for the optimum by building and sampling explicit probabilistic models of promising candidate solutions. Optimization is viewed as a series of incremental updates of a probabilistic model, starting with the model encoding an uninformative prior over admissible solutions and ending with the model that generates only the global optima.

    EDAs belong to the class of evolutionary algorithms. The main difference between EDAs and most conventional evolutionary algorithms is that evolutionary algorithms generate new candidate solutions using an implicit distribution defined by one or more variation operators, whereas EDAs use an explicit probability distribution encoded by a Bayesian network, a multivariate normal distribution, or another model class. Similarly as other evolutionary algorithms, EDAs can be used to solve optimization problems defined over a number of representations from vectors to LISP style S expressions, and the quality of candidate solutions is often evaluated using one or more objective functions."
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So says you. Do you really want to hold out forever? I believe that I have successfully demonstrated "Coincidence Optimization." I do it myself. I have successfully taught it. I'm teaching others now. I believe that you have already learned stubbornness. It's just hanging onto a sinking ship. Are you going to become a crusader for the fair treatment of frequentist absolutism?
     
  3. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    @Mark,
    So far none could prove flat bet wins. If you know identifying patterns by any mechanical and well defined approach that can win flat for you, in the long run ( I consider 30k placed bets on ECs enough proof of long run functionality) but I will pick 30k or more spins randomly for that myself. Come out with whatever you have and let me proclaim you a flat bet winner. You know coding as well, that makes easier to prove your point. Even if you have 5% edge against the casino in my test, it is enough evidence. Dare you?
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Read my signature at the bottom:
    "My edge is a large enough number of people doing this and producing win to loss results that are demonstrably beyond the possibility of inaccuracy."

    I have an idea. You write a million lines of code to prove I'm wrong. Meanwhile those of us not minding that you are irritated are going to proceed with overwhelming evidence. I'm not stopping and it is already two confirmed people that have demonstrated results that are far beyond the expectations of statistical absolutism. It's not that this is a fluke event. This is people gaining a strategic advantage in about two weeks of study. Once that happens they go on to math disintegrating results. I'm going to fill the room with true believers and they are all going to look at you and chuckle. So why don't you see if you can gain the skill? It's all here for free. Could it be that pure ego is stopping you? Only you can answer that.
     
  5. albalaha

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    Now, this is what I never expected from you. You have got two believers who are minting money discreetly sitting in Tora Bora hills, Afghanistan.
    If you have a demonstrable idea as to how to win, that could be coded as well. I have experienced many of your coded tools, none worked sadly. I even once joined a program of yours where you were to show similar skills but that wasn't winning either. It is apparent that you are not wasting your time here writing so many posts casually but with a purpose. Good luck to you and your true believers.
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have your contribution to learning in that study. You were the one that got an F.

    I do love your signature at the bottom: "Spreading awareness and suppressing fallacies relating to casino gambling."

    Check back when the number of people that can beat Roulette flat betting reaches 50 people. I'm the one spreading awareness. In fact this skill's central motivation is awareness.

    Gotta look up what you said in school.
     
  7. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Yeah, I always work to spread awareness and suppress fallacies. I would love to be proved wrong if you and your core team beats the randomness with whatever method you apply, flat bet. This would be the biggest feat ever in the gambling even surpassing Joseph Jagger and Pelayo and at par with Thorp. Edge going from casinos to players hands.
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm working on it and helping anyone that struggles with anything. It is best seen in Roulette with my new software example of playing charts. Everything is there. It applies to the other games with Even Chance bets.

    They took down Gizmotron's School for inactivity. The company got purchased by another and I can't find it anymore. I have the direct link by the new owner but they don't show it anymore. That was a lot of work. I developed the AI software then. That software is here and does in fact win at times. It just digs deep holes at times and fails enough to be a worth it method. It is based on a three step progression too. It is not flat betting. Double Dozens and progressions are too volatile.
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This new method of teaching is simplified and focused on a small aspect of the method. It looks at just a few characteristics, clearly demonstrates them, and has an added feature of a strict strategy, almost rule based. I also provide video support for teaching the skill. I can't practice this for people. They are the only ones that can confirm this. This software is for practice purposes so that the skill is loaded with experience. It is as real as plying live as I can make it. In fact a person using this technique in a casino should play at a casino just like they do in practice. So any student should get very good at doing this on index cards and have all the sets memorized. They should be skilled at getting inside table layout bets down fast. They should know proper payouts. All this can be learned at home with a few real products offered on the internet. You can get a real felt Roulette table top layout. You can get real weighted casino style chips. You can get a real live feed from online tables that have players actually playing and getting paid at them. So the correct speed can be experienced too. I actually recommend simulated live play. Then you will know if you are ready. But people will go to online play and try to beat a rigged RNG with this and then they will blame the method. That's just what people will do.
     
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    Another good day at casino.Another win.To all roullete players keep the ball rolling and play sensible roulette.
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

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    You mean just ball rolling and no tea leaves reading ? Amazing !
     
  13. Jono1167

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    Mark - I haven't gone anywhere. I'm still putting through practice sessions. I'm sticking to a flat-bets only. The more practice the better.
    Cheers Mark
     
  14. mansi19896

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    gizmotron very impressive. i just read everything on this thread. nice.
    one question though, somewhere you mentioned perfect trend which has happened 5 times over 14 years period. How does that trend look like with streaks ?
     

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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Any streak or pattern that repeats perfectly without error and lasts 30 spins, hands, rolls of dice, or longer. It does not take 30 spins to recognize it. It does for math oriented players though. It's a crap shoot. You bet one time to see if it wins. After that you just take all that it gives. I attack them by riding up a few bets and then riding the higher paying wave. I didn't teach it because it detracts from the basics. The basics are enough to become a millionaire. I named these perfect trends or patterns "Elegant Patterns." They have been the joke of the internet for 14 years. Here is the real joke. The skeptical will miss them without ever having seen them. Therefore they don't exist. If only I could do that for taxes.
     
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    Mark, I'm sticking strictly to flat-bets from now on. You're right, relying on a progression leads to complacency. Flat-bets require discipline.

    I've attached a couple of sample sessions. A long session where I went into negative territory but recovered. An easier session where it stayed positive the whole way.

    Cheers

    Session 1

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    Session 2


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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Looks fantastic. Now stop posting successes. Thanks for all the great work. People don't need proof in their faces at this point. If anyone applies themselves like you have then they too will be amazed. I'm ecstatic how well you have done. I'm now claiming at least two that are trained so far. Your results are up where my own are at this point. The flat betting is the key to avoiding deeper holes. Nice job. Thank you. You have done way more than I ever expected from someone. Great job.

    It's all here in one thread with supporting threads for software and software downloads. Just learn it and go out and take all you can get your hands on. The next buzz should come from the casinos scratching their heads. Be stealthy. I recommend that too. $5 chips on a busy night and they won't even see you.
     
  18. mansi19896

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    but over 14 years, what has been longest loosing streak for you or downfall with bankroll. so i know how to prepare myself emotionally for all scenariums.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Practice. You can't read everything in a day and expect to know your answers. You should know what a virtual bet is. You do know what the stop loss point is don't you? Practice leads to experience. Experience gives you all the answers. A student that practices sessions every day for at least two weeks and only then will you have questions. Read the thread again if you must. The answer to your question is actually already given.
     
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    i have done similar thing in the past, but i remember i used some progression, which failed evantually, so flat betting only seems safe way to go. i try testing your style.
     

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