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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Mark,


    Consider like 6 neighbor numbers on the wheel.





    For recreational purposes only . Play at your own risk.
     
  2. David Gregory

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    What do you mean no one is posting test results? Are you referring to results posted on this thread only, Reading Randomness? Myself and another by the name of Jack have posted our results on the thread Red/Black Pattern Betting.
     
  3. Jono1167

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    Smitridel, unfortunately I'm 600 km from the nearest B+M. I have commitments at work and home, so it doesn't even allow enough time to travel on the weekends. I have some annual leave coming up over Christmas, so that should give me a chance to get away for a few days. I'm currently investigating some online casinos too.

    In the meantime I continue to practice on Mark's (Gizmo) practice software. Recently I completed my first 100 session test series (published on this thread) and achieved some very encouraging results. I'm currently working my way through my second 100 spin test series. This morning I completed session 145. These sessions are all 100% flat-bet.

    Sessions 101 - 145
    Total net wins: 112
    Total net losses: 23

    My advice to anyone visiting, read this thread thoroughly, download the software and practice!
     
  4. Smitridel

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    Yes some online have 12sec counters other 14 or more but still difficult to pick multiple numbers in time.

    However with Gizmos method I rarely have any problem.
    The only time consuming is my hesitation and that I think is just a matter of experience(havent gone through the ropes of the practise software enough).

    Anyway time to gwt back to it!
     
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  5. Smitridel

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    I wish you good luck then!
    Im also trying flat bet as well.

    I may be mistaken but I think that flat betting and by mostly selecting the right pattern is the way to go here.
    Progressions are always prone to variance and maybe biased wheels or throws from the dealer (espwcially online casinos)
     
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  6. Jono1167

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    I experimented with using progressions in my first 100 spin test series. Although I never dug myself into a hole, I believe it would eventually happen.

    I'm achieving more consistent results flat-betting. Flat-betting is definitely the way to go.
     
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  7. MillyMole

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    One thing that hasn't seemed to have been mentioned,is what is classed as a win session and what is classed as a lost session.

    From your postings Gizmotron I take a win is plus 3 units so a loss is when you get to minus 3 units?


    Then a new session would start?
     
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  8. MillyMole

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    So when you hit plus units you class that as a win ,then start over ?
     
  9. Bombus

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    Jono1167,
    You're going to need at least 800 sessions before you get a feel for to what extent your edge evolves, and you should expect some significant downturns along the way despite growing confidence/effectiveness.

    Also, along the way don't shut down to exploring improvements.
     
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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This is sort of proof that we are a visually oriented society. This method is taught partly by answering questions. I suppose looking at the pictures and the videos is where a lot of people will start. They will miss all the good stuff that way. Like this answer that is all throughout the writings in this thread. It to will be missed by others too.

    A session is 3 net wins or 7 net losses as the two stop points per session. It takes 2.33 won session to balance just 1 lost session. Most people start displaying 4.66 won sessions to each lost session at 7 net losses. If you start getting numbers like that or better then you are getting what well practiced people are getting.

    That represents a 2 to 1 win to loss ratio in the aggregate. (4 .6666 times 3) = 14. (14 to 7) = 2 to 1. This is Even Chance flat betting that is not even 50 / 50 in mathematical predictions.
     
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  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Good advice for anyone learning this. Those are the kind of numbers that tend to go past a point of any research experiment concerning validation. For flat betting that is. Even more important for anyone wanting to take this method to a casino. You should know all the groupings and their sets by heart. You should be able to place real chips on a layout real fast and you need to fill out real index cards real fast. Many casinos will not let you write on your index cards while placing them on the table's layout.

    I have learned to carry about 20 or more pre-formatted with lines and headings cards in my left hand. I wrote this down already. You wait until your winning bets are not raked off the table. Watch the dealers like a hawk. They often make mistakes. Once your winning bets are safe then fill in the next line of your card. The dealers will then go to payouts. Watch that you are getting paid the correct amount while you look for the the next best bet selection. As soon as the dealer pulls up the marker then you can start placing bets.

    There are two best seats where you can reach all the numbers without needing help or being a pest. I'd advise you to take one of them as people leave the table after losing. One is on the same side as the dealer farthest distance away from the wheel on the corner. Most tables have a blocking device to keep the player in his area. The other best seat is in the middle of the three players on the long side opposite the dealer.

    All this playing advice is already presented in the thread somewhere.
     
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  12. MillyMole

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    You like talking in riddles,reading your endless posts in roulette forums going back years and years confirms you haven’t changed your writing style.


    I or anyone walk up to a table look at a trend that has formed we continue to place a bet on that trend on the even chance.We win.Plus one unit.So is that it or we continue for how many units won,or if we are losing how many units lost before we end the session.

    What is your win in units before you stop and your stop loss if your losing.

    I’m thick so I need it explained in simple terms.

    I’ve seen dealers make plenty of fuck ups,but hardly anyone at the table challenges them.Stupid fucks ,still your money they are fucking up.
     
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  13. Jono1167

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    That’s right. The session ends with three net wins or seven net losses. Gizmo explains everything thoroughly in this thread.

    Make sure you download the practice software too. It’s all free, courtesy of Gizmo!
     
  14. MillyMole

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    Just a quick note for anyone in u.k. testing this and are beating the casino in their testing.Their are over 140 casinos in the U.k. mostly in England,so plenty of them around to make a substantial income without being detected you are a winner as casinos hate winners.Then you have the casinos in Europe too.

    So what are you all waiting for,bring them down using Gizmotron’s reading randomness on the EC:D
     

  15. Jono1167

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    Thanks Bombus. That’s good advice. Since it’s difficult for me to get to a casino, I’m happy to pit through as many practice sessions as possible.

    It sounds like you have had experience using Gizmos method. How long have you been using it for?

    By the way, I think I have identified a possible improvement. I was going to ask Gizmo about it. I’m sure he’s aware of it.

    Cheers Bombus
     
  16. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No matter how you learn this, you must learn this in order to learn the method.

    If you need it explained to you by someone else that you can learn from, then do that.

    1.) Know what the stop win point is.
    2.) Know what the stop lost point is.

    3.) Know what a virtual bet is and why to use it.
    4.) Know what the basic characteristics for trend recognition are.

    5.) Learn how to use the practice software.
    6.) Keep track of your progress.

    7.) Reread this thread until your eyes bleed and your head explodes.
    8.) Try to forgive me for my failings as a writer. I managed to graduate from high school without having ever completely finished reading a single book. I just listened and took tests. That included getting a B+ in AC & DC Circuitry offered off campus by the school district for advanced students during my senior year. I found a way to get out of Physical Training.
     
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  17. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Ask now, I'm about ready to head back to sleep. It's 3;14 am here. I'm an old fart that does not need a full 8 hours sleep.
     
  18. MillyMole

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    Apologies it’s me being thick,but I think a loss is minus 1 unit and a win is plus 3 unit,

    So anyone finding in testing they are ahead of the casino,well in theory using the above as your session,then you really can bust them.

    Good luck to everyone

    So if you lose 7 sessions in a row you are down minus 7 obviouslyo_O,but you only need to win just under 2.5 sessions at plus 3 units to be ahead.

    Sorry I failed at schoolo_O
     
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  19. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This is destined to happen. People will find other ways to make it their own.

    I advise going to virtual bets on each lost bet, unless you are beating a streak of singles on the weak side. If you have a natural pattern that is producing 2 to 1 or better then ride it until it dies or once you reach your three net wins. You must be good enough at this to know the meaning of a pattern producing 2 to 1 naturally and continuing in that form. It might be me, but I can visualize formations in my head. It's a spin off of everything it takes to build a custom home from just looking at the blue pints. I know everything, every skill required, how long it will take, and the estimated and competitive cost. That is the way that I'm wired. So if learning this is just for a few smart people then I don't know what to say. To me it is easier than learning how to count cards and knowing how to use that to win. So this will now become a topic. How hard is this to learn? Everyone is different.
     
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    I have to put you on a pedestal and I believe after re-reading I counted 43 x i reread all of your threads you are the most smartest and probably richest Gambler donating their most valuable time to the community that we have here which is exemplified!!!!!

    I I think everybody winning everyday because of you and the other guy on this gambling forum. And my family thinks you
     
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