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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Ty Gizmotron ,


    You have tried it . There good hard cover books by bonafide gambling authors on the market .



    Forums are NOT schools .






    Best wishes N D
     
  2. Tygizmotron

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    Thanks, but I am not done yet.
    Long losing streaks could happen with any method.
    My commitment on posting daily sessions for a month will expire on 10th of December.

    After that I will post occasionally some sessions or total end results after many sessions.
     
  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Variance is hitting you badly. This is exactly what randomness does. A few weeks ago you had 10 easy session wins in a row. You never know what you are going to face. But knowing you can deal with the worst of it helps confidence. I can't teach someone to weather a bad storm. This is how you gain experience. If you can do even 3 won sessions at 3 net wins against 1 lost session at 7 net losses then you are beating this game better than those trying out systems here. You are not supposed to reach 2.33 wins per loss. Here is something else you should know. The first student had 120 sessions under his belt before going for the next 120 sessions where he reached 4.66 in the second month. He did two sessions per day in front of me for each spin. It's too soon for you to make a conclusion. This bad patch is what teaches you. Anyone can win easy sessions. It's hard to win a difficult session. I only play for about three hours in a B&M casino. That's about 100 spins. Sometimes I get an easy quick win. Most of the time it takes about an hour to 90 minutes at slow table speeds.
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This thread is. I decided to teach it here in one thread. People from other forums are discussing it there but they get the method here. This thread features YouTube video, charts, and software downloads. Some company wanted to charge me monthly for all these features. So it's here in this form and not in a book that you must pay for.
     
  5. Tygizmotron

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    Thanks gizmo. That is reassuring.
    What was the longest consecutive losing streak you ever had since playing the 3 vs 7?
    I want to know what to expect in terms of bankroll needed for this method.
    I think 10 losing streaks in total may happen with even experienced players as well, so I think at least 100 EC bets bankroll is needed to be safe.
    200 would be even better to have a second bankroll.
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I've never lost three session in a row. But I know that a full 7 net loss can have another one right away. So at $5 chips I have three full sessions worth of bankroll at $630 (7 x's $90) each. I test the waters to see if I get a single net win right away.
     
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  7. Tygizmotron

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    That sounds reckless to me. Though good to know that you have never lost 3 sessions in total since you started.
    You suggest that if I lose 21 units in total due to variance and bad luck in a series of a few sessions I am basically broke and have to start from scratch.
    If this is the case then I think this unresponsible.

    In our local casino you can place $5k equivalent on outside bets. Correct me if I wrong, so if someone has a life savings of $110k and proficient with this method can play at those bet limits.
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Of course you can hammer the casino. I've been planning on moving up to $25 chips. That's $450 bets placed on inside numbers. That's a little less than $1,500 won per session. Now you know why you should learn to stop at 3 or even 1 or 2 net wins if a session is very difficult. You should also stop if you get down three net losses and you keep running into that while trying to recover. Just take the smaller loss. The point is to protect your bankroll when it's a difficult stretch of sessions. You know there are easier sessions. You just have to wait for them. I don't place bets during flat mixed results. I just feed off the good looking trends and patterns. You can play 150 spins in a row with the equivalence of virtual bets and never play a real bet in a session and still protect your bankroll. I never try to force a session to work. This is about winning one session per day. I hope you have become aware of getting tired and becoming lazy.
     
  9. Sharptracker

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    Even if it is on parx, be careful... it may be dangerous for your heart!
     
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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't bet online anymore. The live dealers without real players to pay off are even faster than Rapid Roulette in a B&M casino. It's too fast for 6 of my tracked sets. I like real casinos anyway. People are very cheap entertainment. You are very cheap entertainment. I love watching people gamble to see if I can determine what phase of learning they are in. I once saw a guy play $1,000 bets all on black when there was a long streak of Reds. He lost $9,000 in nine spins that all didn't do what he was sure had to change. I watched a guy go on a run of the number 32 and the neighbors on the layout that touched #32. This kept up for a full three day weekend. On Sunday he called his boss to quit his job. The number 32 was his new career. It fizzled and he lost all his winnings and his bankroll too. It was a classic example of a newbie.

    My heart is fine as long as there are idiots like you to watch.
     
  11. Sharptracker

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    You are quoting only bad experiences, but i have seen a woman hit 18 times odd with 500€ on it... She didn't have any experience, and it seems she didn't learn your technic. I have seen also a guy that went to 14K in 30 minutes that hit a max bet twice in a row...

    What would you learn from those people? Or do you only feel just better when you see people losing more than what you're losing?
     
  12. Tygizmotron

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    Do you place bet minimums on one EC as a virtual bet going?
    If so then when you raise your bets it becomes quickly suspicious, especially if you have a long history of winnings.
    We have 5 or six casinos in our country. Most of them are the same and you are forced to use the same club card that linked to the same user data base. That way you are easily tracked. It does not matter where you play.
    They will notice you if you are a winner and ban your ass.
     
  13. gizmotron

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    You win a Cupie Doll for that question. First off I do place a minimum bet ( $5 ) on one of the outside EC choices in order to virtual bet. Where I play you must place a bet in order to keep the seat. There are two best seats at a Roulette table where you can reach all numbers while sitting down. Your second question goes to getting caught as a winner all the time. If you just bet $5 chips then you are not going to arouse a great deal of attention when you just win three net wins. You will lose a few 7 net losses too. They should just chalk it up to luck. You go in there all the time and take them for thousands of dollars per win then you will get targeted. I play at over 30 different casinos here. I could find 100's more. You need to prove you can do this first, then find a way to travel abroad, consider the cost and a worth it enough win amount, and hit casinos no more than once per month.

    I expect some people to get good at this and become greedy with it. That will kill it for everyone. It's human nature. People will try to get rich at one casino. It can't be helped or stopped. The casinos will find a way to stop it. My guess is that they will call you a past spin player. There is one way to combat all this too. You don't need charts. You can play the effectiveness states with just one method of chip stacking as your reference, They might make a rule for flat betting only at all times some day. That would kill it. Then again they might make consistent winners flat bet only. It all comes down to the people that learn this and what they do with it. I expect them to get greedy. The race is on to get what you can while you can.

    They started out not letting anyone card count in Blackjack. Then they switched to letting anyone try but then banning anyone good at it. This RR will change the world a little.
     
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    I don't learn anything from those people. They are clueless. If they win by dumb luck or lose by dumb luck they have no knowledge of why it happened. Many of them get hooked and want more. So they discover the Martingale and then they are really hooked. It's a right of passage that all gamblers need to go thru. What makes me amused is that there is an endless supply of people that gamble clueless. I try to make it fun. I'm happy no matter what happens, even when I lose. It's all part of my long run strategy and moving averages. I win by attrition. They win or lose because they think something magical works for them. I like to encourage them out of a sense of cynicism. It's like causing damage to you by proxy. They are there to keep the lights on and it's fun to watch them jump head first into a vat of shit. That's your purpose here at this forum too. You are a clueless loser. Keep up the fantasy. Just remember all this. It's entertainment. You are supposed to lose.
     

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    Well till i don't need to play with other people s money, lose it and find excuses and at the same time pretending i'm a big guru of roulette on EC i think i didn't reach the bottom... :)
     
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    Looks like you are eating the shit. Good.
     
  17. Sharptracker

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    Well i hope you can read randomness better than you suppose things about others, because it would be worst than i think...
     
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    I think you are still jealous because you were not offered the $50,000.
     
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    I don't know anything about those 50K, what is it about? You shouldn't think i've lost my time to read 59 pages of nonsense...

    Tell me about that last joke from you...
     
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    The real joke is that you claim to know all about me.
     

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