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TurboGenius Remember Ralph?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Jan 20, 2022.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Over at Roulette forum in topic repeat number stats.
    Some might look into what ralph is saying
     
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  2. Denzie

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    I use a method, which always grind a profit. It can theoretical lose, but I think its so rare very few will see it.

    It gives very little profit, but I had never been bust for years, Play it most on line as it is handy to repeat the bets with a button click. No time at a landbased casino to spread all the chips.

    We just bet the number shown, next spin we re bet the previous with a mouse click and add the last number.

    We go on until profit. Many numbers will repeat a few times, and you catch the first repeat.

    If we are behind when about 25 numbers are in play, we have to decide if it is worth to continue, sometimes it can be a sleeper for hundreds of spin, and that means many repeat.

    But we can decide its to risky, to gain a few, and maybe all numbers show in short time.

    In more than half of the attempts we should have a moment there it is plus from last high.

    In case of a play will not land on profit, we start all over with two chips, and if a third attempt is needed we take four, we use martingale progression, but bet flat in every round.
    (been up to 16 an a rare occasion).
    You will need a lot of chips in case of, I recommend 2000, witch can be a bankroll from 20 to 2000
    USD/Euro/sterling.

    I have never lost, and done much playing for years. This method add up slow.
    It can of course fail, but I have never seen it.
     
  3. Denzie

    Denzie Active Member

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    recorded my playing att NoZero BV, but never got a bader run, so for illrustration, I did not stop, at profit and went on up to more than 25 numbers, which is the risky zon, you get plenty of repeters, but the gain is lower, and if the sleepers wake upp the loss is close.

    Started with 100 bankroll which is in this case 1000 units.

    Put one cent on LOW, to see the first number.(won it the reason the figures ends with one).

    17
    32
    20
    28
    30
    7
    19
    9
    30 100.1 Break even
    29
    36
    28 100.91 here should we stop, but as i did not got a bad run I went on .
    34
    16
    18
    1
    26
    13
    17 95.41
    4
    13 95.71
    35
    30 95.81
    12
    7 95.81 (I am not sure of the figure here)
    30 97.61
    7 99.41
    29 101.21 (Should end here)
    28 103,01 (Should end, now Russian Roulette).
    2
    34 102.91 Still breaking rules
    18 104.61
    8
    15
    22
    32 99.81 (back on mimus)
    21
    7 98.71
    7 99.91
    7 101.11
    27
    17 99.91 (back on minus, still breaking rules).
    18 101.11
    22 102.31
    25
    10
    19 98.41
    34 99.41
    11
    22 97.71
    9 98.61
    30 99.51
    15 104.01
    16 104.91 (Here should by all means be end, the danger zon is here)
    23
    22 103.01
    3 (forgot to note)
    6
    26 103.01
    32 99.31
    28 101.11
    13 102.91
    19 104.71
    2 106.51

    Stopped here as more than 25 numbers plying, and on plus.
    It is ussally time to stop here anyhow as the stakes cost to winning, and risk for sleepers shows.

    All games are different, even if we test 10000000, it will still be more to test.

    You can test in fun mode, to know how to take decissions, but the outcome there, will not be simular as in money play, all sessions are different
     
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    It will of course fail. Is that what you meant to say?
     
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    So Denzie, you are Ralph ? :bear:
     
  6. Denzie

    Denzie Active Member

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    Rofl....I just copy/paste o_O
    (Has nothing to do with me )
     
  7. Spider

    Spider Active Member Founding Member

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    I heard Ralph passed away many years ago, at a ripe old age.
     

  8. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    This is from R-sim. It's a player who has been playing in the last hour.
    upload_2022-1-21_8-20-56.png
    Not interested how this person plays, just interested in their spins.
    Here's yesterdays 34 spins, we need enough to see if Ralph's way gets in to a hole?
    upload_2022-1-21_8-23-6.png
    Well, what a surprise hit, spin 9; the vaddi breakeven. The data posted by Luck of the Irish in the repeat stats topic at RF.
    Look at the #21, repeat. Then the #23 and the #10, #34.#34,#34
    By the 3rd #34, you have had 7 repeats in 20 spins. Average for repeats is 1-3=4; So, repeats are fast,+3. Next 10 spins, 7 of the remainning 37
    hit. Wonder why?
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    rumoured he was shot in the America's. Who knows for sure? But he did like repeats.
    The above reminds me of a Turbo post over at RF; where he says bet evry spin for 37 spins.
    Who posted what first.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Here's that 10'000 loss
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    #13 repeat. There's more; could you not take profit or would you end up betting to0 many 1x's
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Just played with a slight twist.
    upload_2022-1-21_8-45-6.png
    Could have just reset on spin 6.
    As Del boy would say; he who dares
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Remember up above +146.
    Carried on 10 winning games.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Den forgot to copy and paste this.
    I have run a 30 million single zero RNG test, 361 086 games (whenever a number repeats, a new session is started)

    2 9799
    3 19199
    4 26712
    5 33099
    6 36817
    7 38117
    8 37424
    9 34613
    10 30241
    11 25616
    12 20579
    13 15855
    14 11481
    15 8103
    16 5429
    17 3428
    18 2057
    19 1187
    20 665
    21 372
    22 165
    23 79
    24 35
    25 10
    26 3
    27 0
    28 1

    MEAN 8.308740854
    MEDIAN 8

    Max number of spins before a repeat is 28.

    Here is another chart:

    SPIN Theoretical Actual
    2 2.702702703 2.713757941
    3 5.405405405 5.465331766
    4 8.108108108 8.04365108
    5 10.81081081 10.83876925
    6 13.51351351 13.52189131
    7 16.21621622 16.18831224
    8 18.91891892 18.96393589
    9 21.62162162 21.64408232
    10 24.32432432 24.13372065
    11 27.02702703 26.94577394
    12 29.72972973 29.63181615
    13 32.43243243 32.4432167
    14 35.13513514 34.77510223
    15 37.83783784 37.62886598
    16 40.54054054 40.42141315
    17 43.24324324 42.83929018
    18 45.94594595 44.97157849
    19 48.64864865 47.15931665
    20 51.35135135 50
    21 54.05405405 55.93984962
    22 56.75675676 56.31399317
    23 59.45945946 61.71875
    24 62.16216216 71.42857143
    25 64.86486486 71.42857143
    26 67.56756757 75

    The left number is the spin number before a repeat. The least amount if 2 of course. The next number is the theoretical percentage of hits. The number after that is the actual based on my tests.

    28 spins, but from 30 million spins.
    The game 12 minutes ago could have stopped at spin 6; like I did in the other 9 games took 1st profit.
    So, 12 spins was the longest.
    Wonder when GORMLESS is going to show up?
     
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    Did make me laugh.
    Non-hits came fast. The usual for 60 spins is 30 of the starting 37 hit.
    upload_2022-1-21_18-43-10.png
    Just 4 to find with 4 spins to come.
     
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    So, repeats -4. 26/34
    upload_2022-1-21_18-47-31.png
     
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    Well I hope some have studied like ordinary_people. Part 3
    upload_2022-1-21_18-59-48.png
    Not bad for repeats slow to the average of 1-3-5-7.
     
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    Reply 9 in part 3 is something to be remembered. -3 now of repeats.
     
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    Have the hotties gone cold?
     
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    It's not that difficult....just use common sense for predictions about those 3 numbers...

    If they have equal hits? How you know which one hits first? Well, you don't right.....nobody's forcing you to bet every spin (but I might lose my seat? Common that's not really the issue isn't it)

    What about those gaps? Are the gaps really that big in 1x to 6x ? Of course not

    If your chosen number doesn't hit should you keep betting it for more than 37spins? I wouldn't coz it can become a sleeper for 100spins or more

    What happens later in the race when the gaps get bigger ? And what happens when they finally appear again ? They get a few fast hits ?

    Where should the horses/numbers be on the track ? If things happen as they should can we bet all 3 ? Sure we can

    If in doubt about which numbers will hit ... would you bet? I wouldn't

    Do we want long sessions? Hell no ! Get in , attack and cash out....(I know it's not always possible but mostly it is though)

    Test and test....you need like 100 sessions to get the feeling how to play. Always note the spin count.....

    Have a great weekend :)
     

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