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Roulette Repeats within 37/38 spins

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by BlueAngel, Sep 20, 2018.

  1. BlueAngel

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    On average we witness 12 repeats within a cycle of results, which would be interpreted as 1 repeat per 3 spins roughly.
    But such observation occurs only as aftermath since probability dynamically alters as the total grows.
    So since we are not dealing with a fixed 1 repeat every 3 spins we will witness repeats happening apart by several spins, in cluster, or in streak.

    This leads to the conclusion to bet for a repeat only after the 1st (every 1st) occurs.
    After all it doesn't matter what but when, every number is a potential winner when you know when to bet it.

    Timing is everything!
     
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  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    You will still lose because there's one or two too many pockets on the roulette wheel.
     
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  3. BlueAngel

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    If you say so, but I've serious reasons to believe otherwise.
    Even if there was a 37 spins sequence without 2 repeats in a row it would be like a drop in the ocean...I can imagine a sequence with very few repeats, like 6 for example, not having 2 back to back, BUT guess what, in such sequence I'd bet only 6 times therefore the loss would be significantly reduced and it could be recovered on the upcoming 2 or 3 cycles/coups.
    The objective is 1 coup per cycle, at the point which the win happens the charting of the new cycle restarts.
    One could get that single coup and call it a session, that's not me, but just saying.
     
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    By saying betting for a repeat only after every repeat I don't mean to bet only the repeated numbers, but all hit/shown numbers that far.
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Blue,

    In the random game it doesn't work. Hit frequency distribution betting is what I call it. I've simulated that kind of thing a zillion times.
     
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    "Potential winners" is key.

    A number can't show twice unless it's shown once.
    A number can't show three times unless it's shown twice.
    A number can't show four times unless it's shown three times.

    Therefore a number that hasn't shown up once is a potential long term sleeper and should
    be avoided at all cost. This changes the math of the game, each spin revealing
    more and more potential winners and losers that can help the player win.

    Unless you're Sir Anyone, then it's a joke and nonsense, yet a number that you don't bet
    on (and it never shows up) - means you lose $0.00 on it.
    It's common sense but perhaps it's too obvious to see through all the nonsense for some people.
    If I asked him to play roulette but his only rule is that he has to win on a number on it's 4th appearance.....
    he would only bet on numbers that have shown 3 times. (not so silly now right ?)
    Betting on a number that hasn't shown at all, or 1 time, or 2 times won't produce a win since he needs
    a 4th appearance number to win.
    But yes, it's all nonsense even though any intelligent person can see how obvious this is, and anyone
    who plays and tests systems can figure out how to use this to their advantage.
     
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  7. mr j

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    I have said this 8,000 times (lol)

    Thats why I am a non-believer in betting on a "grouping" of numbers because the POTENTIAL of one or more sleepers (cold) in the group. EXAMPLE being >> the 13 street is HOT so thats our HOT bet for now. Why is it hot? Because the 13 & 15 have hit a ton.

    the damn 14 has not hit in over 100 spins. Why include it, thats stupid. Within EVERY group, there is a cold number in it (usually). Forget the "hot" street or DS or corner OR red/black.

    Red is hot, I'll keep betting it, STUPID!!!!! What about the 2-3 cold (semi-cold) red numbers? You are WASTING units!!!

    Try telling the morons at R30 this.

    Ken
     
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    By all means, please continue trying to dazzle us with your wisdom.

    You know...

    A number can only hit once if it hasn't hit before.
    A number can't hit five times unless it's hit four times.

    There's water at the bottom of the ocean too.
     
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    There's the little circus monkey, right on cue

    [​IMG]
     
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    ....how about if the Holy Grail is a concept that allows one to see the mathematical averages unfold and take advantage of the saying: a mathematical average is a mathematical certainty; i.e. we have predictability, and predictable is a beautiful word when dealing with games of chance.....I have it.....
     
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    A zillion times wrong. It's official.
     
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    If you play for a mathematical average bet selection then you will get paid with a mathematical average negative expectation. You do see this don't you? You do have predictability though. You can pocket those best wishes.
     
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    Thanks for your comment OVER THERE.

    Ken
     
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    Gizmo,

    Need proof? If you want to see proof you'll have to log onto Skype, otherwise all I can do is produce the outcome stats for you.
     
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    I know, from spin to spin and maybe for 6 spins or so. But for every cold number there are new hot numbers coming and going. I tried to beat the law of thirds concept. It tends to balance itself out. It is not necessarily the cause of a sleeping group or even a long sequence of singles. They just happen. I've tried to combine law of third numbers and apparent significant characteristics in sets of groupings. It's a waste of time. A strong streak of Reds or Evens are good enough for me without regards for how many cold numbers are in the sets. Even though I know you are mastering the few hot numbers, I thrive on one bet at a time and the best looking trends. The cause of the trends with regards to the coldest and hottest numbers are not interesting enough for me. They certainly don't prevent a good occurring streak from happening. I could write software to analyze the relationship between hot & cold numbers and the occurrence of favorable trends. Who knows? It could be real good after all.
     
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    I don't need statistical proof. Your stats don't recognize patterns and trends and when they will occur. They are worthless.
     
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    I'd bet against the average, for example let's say you see numbers with 3 hits within 111 spins for single 0 wheel, you should bet that those numbers will not remain average, but of course you have to decide whether they will go to sleep or they will increase their hits ratio.
    The average is a thin red line which everything comes across but nothing stays on it.
    The game finds its balance through the deviations, I know it's kind of a paradox but if you think about it for a while you'd agree with me.
     
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    BlueAngel,

    I can simulate these scenarios for you if you want to see the results. Pick the number of times you want your bet to hit over any horizion. I can instantly run it on real live wheel data for you. I don't think you'll like the results, but you can pick different methods if you'd like.
    If you want to run them then let me know and we can do it on a screen share.

    Gizmo,

    You're invited to but you have to be nice.
     
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    I read a nice article a couple months ago, NOT real sure I agree with it but.....

    We'll take reds for example. I clearly feel there are 1-2 reds that are cold, I hate it (lol) There are also 1-2 reds that are hot. A couple reds hitting under expectation AND a couple reds hitting over.....which EVENS ITSELF out. If this is true, there really is no hot 18 reds and no cold 18 reds (if that makes sense). Short term? Long term? A completely different discussion.

    but thats 18 numbers, lets drop it down to a street (3). A hot street?? I dont believe in that term. Two hot numbers within the street is not the same thing as a hot street. It ONLY MEANS, two hot numbers. The ONLY way its accurate, over the last 100 spins (example), the three HOTTEST numbers, out of coincidence were the 31 32 33 hence = hottest street.

    Ken
     

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