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Roulette RNG vs Real Wheel

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Smitridel, Nov 5, 2019.

  1. Smitridel

    Smitridel Active Member

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    The title says it all.

    Although I should clarify I dont mean from a VB point of view.

    In situations where real money is at stake what do you prefer?
    Real video (with dealer) wheel or RNG?

    Do you have bitter experience with RNG?
    Is there really a shady tracking system behind it and do you think that they are rigged?
    Im refering to the known ones online (not downloadable) like NetEnd.

    Is there somewhere where I could check the validity of the RNG not to be dragged into a rigged one?

    The reason Im wondering myself is that I have little time to focus on it when at home, so RNG is faster (and cheaper) but I cant shake that feeling that the computer online is just counteracting my moves.
     
  2. David Gregory

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    The following is an article from a online roulette software manufacturer you may find interesting. It does point out that free use casino software is rigged by some to let you win more often than lose to draw you into betting real money. So, if it can be rigged for that purpose, it can just as easily be rigged to counteract your moves when playing for real money. However, they do not need to rig the game because the odds are already in their favor just like on a real wheel. Plus, if they ever get caught rigging the game, they are in big trouble. I believe the legit online casinos do not rig the game. The people who complain about online games being rigged are probably those using a lousy strategy that they would have lost with it in a real casino also.

    Why you shouldn’t test systems with online casino software
    Most online casinos allow you to play roulette with test accounts for free. You don’t bet with real money. Where real wheels are not involved, the winning numbers are not “fair random”. Specifically they are rigged so you win more often than you would if the results were truly random. This is to convince you that your system works, and you should bet with real money. But when you start playing with real money, the odds are back in the casino’s favor because they apply the proper random number generator. Unfortunately this deceptive practice is very common, so you should never test any roulette system on the software provided by online casinos.
     
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  3. Smitridel

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    Thank you for your answer but I wasnt asking for testing (we have RX, Roulete Simulator etc) for that.
    Im talking about getting action.

    The important is the disclaimer in FUN mode and that is what worries me - since they CAN do it under circumstances how would I know if they do it in live action as well?
    Also does anybody know who (organization?) controls or keeps tabs on them? And how would they get "caught"? I mean even if one made a complaint, it would be unsubstantial since its a neg. expectance game, random etc blah blah.

    So does anybody in here use RNG for real play just to cut through some time?
     
  4. gizmotron

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    I'm so glad that s seven step Martingale expert is taking over. •••••••••••••••••••
     
  5. David Gregory

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    It doesn't hurt to have at least on person on this forum that makes sense. Because you sure don't.
     
  6. David Gregory

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    I answered your question. I know you were talking about playing for real money and not for practicing. You wanted to know how an RNG compares to playing a real wheel for actual money. The point of the article was that RNG's can be rigged. You will get mixed answers to your question on this forum. One long time member by the name of Nathan Detroit swears that the real wheel is the only way to go. Another long time member 'Gizmotron' says there is no difference in randomness than a real wheel vs an RNG. If you decide to use an online casino out of convenience, just make sure it has a long time good reputation. There may be some on this forum who can steer you to a legit one that is tried and true..
     
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  7. Smitridel

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    Will be looking forward to some RNG guidance then!
    Real video wheel and waiting times have their limits so.. Heres to hoping!
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No I don't. I say that online casinos that are not a live feed of a real wheel can cheat you by algorithmic targeting. This just confirms what a neophyte you rally are.
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I think that it's wonderful that you are here at this time and that you are all of a sudden a gambling expert.
     
  10. Smitridel

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    Can you please elaborate on the "algorithmic targeting" process?
    Or your experience with it?
     
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    where if Dr. Sir Anyone when hr is needed ?
     
  12. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No. They cheat you by looking where you don't have bets. And I'd hope that you can figure out the rest.
     
  13. Smitridel

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    That simple huh? Well this is obvious enough that i mentioned in my opening post but it just speculation from my part.
    I dont have lots of experience from RNG (Casino) and thats why Im asking for help from members that can justify their negative view of Casino RNG.

    Have you encountered evidence that show this or is it an assumption based on the fact that it is rigged (disclaimer) on fun mode therefore it *can* be rigged?

    Also is it online with other players or is it instance based on your client browser?
    If its the latter and what you say is true it could be exploited by other people at the same time (showing bias).
     
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    I see no other gambling expert on this site, might as well be me.
     

  15. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Someone that flogs a seven step Martingale is not a gambling expert. Dare to dream.
     
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    Someone who flogs an out dated reading randomness theory cannot possibly be an expert either. You are no more of an expert than anyone else on this forum. Wait, I take that back, you are an expert foul mouthed, conceited drunk. You should check into a rehab center and get the serious help you need. I can tell by the way you respond to people on this forum that you may be mentally ill. This roulette thing is driving you mad. I don't drink and I don't use foul language; except for the one time I said you are nothing but a bunch of BS. I used that term because there is not a more appropriate term to be found that fits you. I apologize for using that term, let me say it in a better, less foul way, you are nothing but a bunch of horse crap. Apology accepted?
     
  17. gizmotron

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    Every year we get a very serious person that thinks the Martingale progression works for them. It always goes on like this when we try to tell him that he is chasing wishful thinking. They always come off like they are as good as anyone that was here before they arrived. They can't be told anything, no matter what.

    So be the big gambler. Go to the casino with your money. In fact sell your house and mortgage it all the way to the hilt. Lead all the dreamers along with you. You are the new Pied Piper.

    And don't forget this ever. You are a dickhead. You mother has raised a very normal idiot.

     
  18. Smitridel

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    Whoa get a room you two :p

    Apart from the bickering and foul language does anyone else have an opinion on the validity (or lack of it) of Casino RNG when being played for real?
     
  19. Smitridel

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    Funny thing: Parx Casino Online has the same RNG as I've been playing the last two days (American Roulette by NET/ENT so maybe @TurboGenius would be so kind to give us his opinion in playing with real money (since I've seen that he plays regurarly on it)?
     
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    Casino RNG are fair and highly regulated. Casinos are honest businesses.
     

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