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Baccarat Roulette has positive expectation.

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Baccaritic, May 22, 2021.

  1. Baccaritic

    Baccaritic Member

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    Roulette offers a bet with positive expectation. It can function as an option to run an MM on that requires more wins that losses to resolve with profit. I expect all Roulette players to know it. Of course I expect all Roulette players to know it has a house edge of 5% and not play Roulette too.
    This isn't a cheap shot at you Jae, for saying Roulette wouldn't work, more of me just cranking up all the mad hatters drinking half cups of tea, celebrating their unbirthdays down in a rabbit hole hoping not to encounter the mad watch.
    I agree with you however, it would take close to 10,000 units. Grinds would be longer, and bust outs would happen with less units of profit left over than on a game with a lesser house edge.
    French Roulette is a slightly different animal, and I wouldn't blame anyone for playing on a single zero wheel with the en prison rule. However, that's not what most of the nuts running around this asylum are doing.
     
  2. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Yup, time for the Guinness and cashew, baby, hey hey.
     
  3. Rinad

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    OG can be applied to roulette on all types of bets , but ec's would drive the betting to high. so it leaves us with the dozens or 6 number bets which I think works. the advantage in roulette is in being able to apply virtual bets to the fullest without too much waiting time, like playing the last 6 numbers non-hit left on the wheel.
    no need for 10.000 units , 3 to 4000 units can take me a long way and it will be a very longgggg......time before a bust. I play roulette a lot and so far I never had to sweat too much on a session.
    it is all about applying statistical pressure on the field, you just can always count on a "bounce back", dont have to be many wins, just a few, but they have to show up.
    if I am 60 spins down without getting a single win on 6 numbers, I have a head start if it did not cost me a thing.
    I can expect the odds to catch up just enough to give me a few wins, and in some instances I find it hard to get enough wins for profits, I can always take less profit or even brake even if I had to.
    the thing is not to expect too much at times but 9 out of 10 times the wins come nicely. it is do-able I think, I have not done enough sessions with Oscar yet, and Jae made me rethink the idea I have to admit.
    we all have a tendency to judge a Method based on our personal experience because it is easier to said, "Martingales dont work", or OG dont work",, then said, "I didn't make it work but maybe somebody else can".
    it is true in a sens that "what a men can do, another men can do", but we have to become that men first.

    Cheers,
     
  4. Craps

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    MM is an option to gain Probability for the ease of winning fractional units and that's all to it. The odds don't change with whatever progression or non progression you make. Progression also has a limitation to how high it can go before the limits don't make sense anymore. Why suddenly are we talking about units in the Thousands?
    What happened to the longer we stayed at a table the chances is we will leave a loser. It's seems now everybody is thinking the opposite. As long as we are persistent chasing our losses with Big Bankrolls, we are sure to reset? It all sounds too good to be true by coming up with More Bankroll Chasing is the Holy Grail.
    How about Wins and Losses and the wins were able to cover to produce residual wins. What happened to this mentality?
    It's one way to find out. Testing with few thousand units bankroll.
     
  5. Rinad

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    the idea of using a big bankroll yes it does not always make sens to a player, but if you think about it, it is only because a player does not have unlimited bankroll.
    on the other hand, the casino uses their unlimited bankroll to kill the player more then the odds, just my opinion.
    OG is like a huge Marty, and you mentioned it in a other post right ?
    so what is the difference really ? the 2000 verses the 32 units ?
    it is all the same in the way that the 2000 does let you bust much less often , at the end, you either ride the roller coaster or the Merry go-round, ending up at the same place having a different experience,lol.
    I dont advice anything to anyone anymore because it is all about what fit your style.
    OG could work safer in my eyes by taking a loss earlier and come back another day at a higher unit starting all over.
    the increase of just one unit when you are betting ten or twenty makes it harder to catch up as losses increase, but a player could begin a new session with a bigger increase and play in such a way that he would only demand a fewer win to be back home.
    I am playing solo so taking losses make more sens then if someone could take over my target.
    I dont want to be down 1000 units and have to run to the toilets ,having to leave my stadium terminal, only to see that my numbers got a hit while I was gone,ah ah.....
     

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