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Roulette Roulette Rules, Cluster Theory and beating randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by David Carmichael, Nov 15, 2021.

  1. David Carmichael

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    I’m David Carmichael former stockbroker and before that I worked in logistics. There is one thing I know for sure; people lie about how much they win in Las Vegas. They say things like I won $500.00. They probably were up $500 at one time. That probably is true. What they don’t tell you is they lost $3000.00 overall. When you get into a higher level of gambling the lies get bigger. In the middle of my gambling career, I started to hear people say they won so much they had to pay off the pit boss so they could keep gambling. That’s not true. You never need to do that. That’s a lie. True gamblers have to pay off the cashiers, so they don’t identify you. And that only last so long. Sooner or later they rat you out. Eventually the Casinos will kick you out and band you. That’s not fair. They might be able to keep me from going into the Casino, but they can’t stop me from teaching a few hundred thousand people how to drain them. That’s why I wrote this. That’s why I want you to read this. My intention is to build an army of roulette player that know how to beat the game. That’s what I’m going to teach you now. It all starts with beating randomness.


    Cluster theory. The Theory. This is how you beat random selection. Random. What does that mean? If something is random, as we all know, that means all the options have an equal chance of getting selected. Flip a coin 50 times and it lands on heads every time, the next flip has an equal chance of landing on tails. That’s random. It means the past selections do not influence future outcomes. The problem is outcomes are never equal. For example, if you roll a dice six times, the odds of rolling each number once are just as unlikely as rolling a six, six times. It almost never happens. Almost every single time you will see a cluster of twos or threes, anything other than one through six or all sixes. What you will see almost every time is a cluster.

    How does this apply to roulette? Bet corners. One bet on four numbers, a cluster.

    What you need to do is bet the corners and hedge the rest of the board.

    This is cluster theory and the reason I started this process to begin with. I was sitting at a buffet in Reno. I finished my meal and went to order a drink. It was $20 a drink. I thought, shoot. I can make $20 last an hour at the roulette table. I can probably get two drinks in an hour.

    That was how I started. I was trying to make $20 last an hour. The table minimum bet was $1. It takes about three minutes per turn. If I just place a $1 bet every three minutes. I can lose every time and stay at the table for an hour and still get 2 free drinks.

    I placed a bet and lost, lost, lost, lost. It was going like I thought. I worked in logistics, I was a stockbroker, I know what the odds are. I looked up at the board. The board is a record of the last 12 winning numbers, and I got really frustrated. I noticed two things. The numbers didn’t seem to be random. They seemed to be clusters. 22, 23, 25 2,5,3,15,15,13,4,24,3. The second thing I noticed – and this made me madder – it looked like the winning numbers were already on the board. I thought man, I should have bet the numbers on the board. I never do that because I have a good understanding of randomness.

    I made these two observations and discounted them immediately because I’m educated. I have an advanced degree. I kept playing, bet lost, bet lost. I ordered a second drink. I was down to $4 when I took my first look at the rules of roulette. I learned you can bet a third of the table numbers 1-12, 13-24 and 25 to 36. In two bets you can hedge two-thirds of the table. You could also bet corners, meaning I could bet $1 on numbers 1,2,4,5. It paid 8 to 1. If a cluster hit I win 8 bucks. And I can hedge by betting a the other two thirds of the table. I saw a cluster form 1-8. I bet on four of those numbers and hedged 13-36 with two more dollars. A total bet of $3 wins $8 if the cluster hits. Or I get your money back if it lands on 13-36. I lose on 10 numbers, break even on 24 numbers, and win $5 on clusters that seems to be hitting repeatedly.

    And then something weird happened. After a 50-minute losing streak - I won $5. Then I won a gain. Then I lost. Then I broke even. In 5 turns I got my $20 back and $4. I finished my second drink and went to bed. I got up early, at 5 AM, and drove to Vegas. On that drive I couldn’t stop thinking about how weird it was that I won. Why? It didn’t make sense. The odds are against you. You just shouldn’t win.

    I was also thinking in stockbroker numbers. $4 on a $20 investment is 20%. THAT IS HUGE. If you have an index fund that nets 12% that’s good. What I had just done was a statistical anomaly. I just couldn’t stop thinking about it. I had no idea what I had just stumbled onto. I spent the next six months perfecting the rules, Roulette Rules.


    Rule #1 Accept that the Casinos are cheating. We can all agree that Casinos are in business to make money, as much money as they can, as fast and they can, by any means they can. No one imagines the casino owner sitting around saying, “We want to make money gambling but let’s be FAIR about it.” These are the people that we’re told gambling is illegal and wrong and they said, we’ll see about that.” It’s their nature to cheat the system. It’s their nature to bend the rules as much as possible. It’s who they are. They are cheating the system.


    Rule #2 You are never betting against the casino, at least not in roulette. You are betting against the other players. This is complicated and I talk about in detail in the book, “Roulette Rules,” but the simplest example is this: if someone bets $40 on red, you bet $30 on black. The casino will make sure they collect the $40 and pay out $30 – every time. There is a little more too it then than, but that is the basic idea. You don’t have to beat the house, just beat the other guy.


    Rule #3 The second you are up – quit. Know that the second you walk away with money they start tracking you. You will be the only one who walks away winner, so you’ll be easy to remember. You need to start covering your tracks before you start taking money off the table.


    Rule #4 Never play a table unless 2 greens 0’s are on the board. If you do see two greens, that table is ripe. Play that table. That is what I looked for when I scanned the roulette section to pick a place to play. I lost a few hands because I couldn’t place my bet. I was sitting too far from the numbers.


    Rule #5 Only join a table at a place where you can reach the entire table – at the last second.


    Rule #6 Never play a table unless there are 3 other players with more money too loose than you. I also discovered that if you put all your chips on the table the casino takes all of them in one hand. But if you only play 1/3 of your chips the casino lets you win to make sure you play the rest of your chips. I always came to the table with $100 but I never bet more than $30.


    Rule #7 Only bet a third of your chips, so the house feels safe letting you win. They need to think they will get a return for their investment.


    Rule #8 Know when to walk away. Statistically, hedging the way I play two-thirds of the time I should break even. If I play three turns and I don’t win – leave the table. That shouldn’t happen.


    Can you use Cluster Theory to bet on Crypto? YES. Every week one of the crypto coin’s hits. But which one? Find the smallest crypto index you can find, something with 10-30. Buy the index with two thirds of your investment and spend one third of your investment on a cluster of coins. If one of the coins in the index goes up you get a return on your index investment, but if one the coins in your cluster hits – BOOM, you can get a lot more than $5 on your return. Be bold but be smart. Bet on the clusters. Randomness can be beat.


    Can you use Cluster Theory to bet on sports? Yes, you don’t even half to hedge. Assign every team: basketball/football/whatever you are into, a number one to 27 or 36 or however many teams are playing in your sport this week. Teams 1-5 will not be the winners, but you can find a cluster. After three weeks you will have patterns, and then you’ll start to able to make bets that seem unlikely. Bet the clusters.


    How to bet on anything using clusters: make a list 1-500. Identify clusters. Identify hedges. You want to invest in the stock market? Look at the Dow. There is a list of 30 companies. 2-3 of them are going to outperform the other 27 this week. But which 3? Find and index fund, or just go to Robinhood, spend two thirds of your investment on all 30 stocks. Spend one third on a cluster of 3-4. One winner can drive the entire index up. If one of them hits in your cluster you walk away a winner for the week. When you go up – quit.


    You can bet on anything that you can make a list of. Watch that list for three weeks. Clusters will form and then make a move on those clusters. You’ll bet on unlikely teams that will win. You’ll bet on unlikely companies that will win. You will reap the rewards of making investments that others wont. Friends, family, coworkers will start to ask you, “Why did you do that?” They will say things like, “I never would have seen that coming,” or “I never would have made that bet,” “Why did you bet on Cleveland to beat Tom Brady,” No one would, but betting on clusters breaks you out of traditional thinking and opens up possibility.


    In the stock market unlikely things happen. Monster energy drink is three times as valuable as Apple. No one would have guessed that. Invest in clusters. You can win against randomness.


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  2. gizmotron

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    Comical to the least degree. Man you are out there with a lot of magical information that is just outright wrong. But that's OK because you are also just trying to sell a book. My favorite is betting the opposite of other players because the casino will cheat the bigger bets. That's a good one. So either the dealer has magic hands and can hit a number better than an Olympic long jumper or the wheel has magnets in it so that the ball lands where they want it to. That will sell your book. Way to go.
     
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  3. TurboGenius

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    #nonsensethread
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    One word LOL That should go viral.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What you want to do is say this is a smoke screen because the real secret is in the book somewhere. You need to learn from Spike. He can dish it out and take it. You have a lot in common with him. Seek his wisdom.
     
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  6. Nathan Detroit

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    utter nonsense.
     
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    Was a great read; then the aah moment.
     
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    Where can I get the book?
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Badger, if you are a shill then I get that. If you want this book, don't bother. It's pure baloney.
     
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    The opening post of the topic is already a sample of a baloney festival in the making .
     
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  11. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Compared to some posts on the baccarat forum this topic caused some laughs on a Monday am.

    Enjoy !
     
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    I found the only legit part of that long post.
    People don't realize being ahead and what it means.
    If you bring 100 and leave with 150 - you did better than almost any investment and in record time.
    Then 99 of 100 people give it back.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I know. You can grow from a small investment if you have a business plan. If you know that you will outperform the expectation by 100% and hold yourself to a growth rate of 20%. Then you create milestone plateaus that represent enough backup headroom in your overall bankroll to maneuver with 5 times what's needed as backup. The only thing holding you back is the maximin size of a bet.
     
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    What a silly post by somebody who obviously doesn't play roulette at all. Just fulfilling all your dumb rules before you can even play would kill you dead. Don't play unless you see two zeros on the board? You could be there for 3 hours just waiting for 1 zero let alone 2. Only join a table where you can reach the entire table? That's insane. You can't reach the spot just tell the dealer to bet it for you. More proof that you've never played. Only play at a table where three other players have more to lose than you do? And how the hell would you know that. You can't judge where somebody's at by the number of chips in front of them unless you've been standing there watching them play the entire time. And why do you act like the casino is watching every single move you make. They aren't, they mostly couldn't care less about you unless you're betting real money which you obviously are not. If your betting $1,000 on straight-up numbers, yeah they're going to watch you. Otherwise they don't even know you're alive. And the dead giveaway that this is a con job mister highly educated stockbroker, if you're so highly educated why do you spell the word lose 'loose'? Kind of makes you the 'looser' doesn't it. LOL
     
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    That would be my wife at the slots. She'll run $100 up to $200 so when I tell her you're insane if you don't quit she'll say, it's not enough. It's never enough. I saw her win $3,000 once and give it all back except $500. She was playing two slots at once as fast as she could. She cried all the way home. I'm so stupid she says, and she isn't stupid at all. She's one of the smartest people I know, she was valedictorian of her class in high school ferchritsake. But it comes to gambling she's an absolute idiot. I never play slots, what are the year 2000 I was at Soaring Eagle Casino and put $1 into the slot machine while I was waiting for my wife and I won $2,500. Went and filled out the paperwork stuck it in my pocket and I've never put another dime in slot machine. I forgot all about it I never claimed it on my taxes but I never heard anything about it either. In those days Indian casinos were famous for throwing away 80% of the paperwork they were supposed to turn over to the government because they didn't want to hire anybody to do the work. They don't do that anymore.
     
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    What no math sheriff hitting this thread?
    Where are you boy boys ?
    Boz, sir, beanas ,joe, and the rest , I guess you fuktards only are really goggle wearing hypocrites, where’s your indignation? Why aren’t you all picking this thread , where is your cut and past. Oh is it because it’s not started by ,
    Turbo
    Gizmo
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    Etc ?
    This thread starter is an example of exactly the people you mathtopians should be saving the ploppy from , this is your hypocrisy.
    No credibility mathy fuctards, go back to your group anal mind meld.
     
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    Exactly true.
    They claim to be the saviors who are riding their high horses and protecting people
    from the evil system players - but when a clear sham comes along they don't say a word.
    That means one thing to me... they know where the threat is and they hang on every word.
    By trolling and naysaying things that they don't know about, they just hang on the coat tails
    of people they wish they were. It's sad.
     
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    Question will this cluster cat show up again ?
     
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    He's just advertising. He'll be happy with one sale from this logging in effort. If someone buys his electronic version of this fish wrap he might earn .50 cents.
     
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    Well we had our fun on a Monday.
     
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