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Roulette Same method regardless?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by mr j, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    My question kinda links the lottery in with roulette. Lets say you visit a particular store for your lotto tickets. You have also visited other stores for your tickets.

    You have MANY wins (not the jackpot) at one particular store. MANY small wins....over and over.

    The other stores.....nothing. Does it make more sense to continue playing at that same store? I know the short answer, it makes no difference so I dont need the speech.

    On to roulette....... if you keep on winning, does it really matter why? I dont mean, betting Bdays and anniversaries etc. People that suck at math have to rely more on luck rather than logic.

    Ken
     
  2. BlueAngel

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    If that's your case then the most reasonable explanation which comes to my mind is that in time you have developed a "feel" for the dealers of your local casino.
    If you'd wonder to other casinos or your local would changed their dealers, you wouldn't be so effective.
    That's one of the disadvantages when you bet dealer's signature methods, there are bettors who could win regularly at a specific casino thanks to dealer's and or wheel's bias but they are losers on other situations.
    In my consideration those kind of bettors are no better than those who bet something like red, half of the times red will appear more than the black, thus enabling one to win with flat bets, in other words when your betting method wins some or even most of the times, it's no universal, as a matter of fact everything works sometimes.
    So why those self proclaimed advantage players are any better than the average Joe who bets dozens and EC's?
    They say they spend days by the wheel just to determine if some numbers hit more than average probability, all this time the casino staff are watching them by the cameras and laughing...do you think that after this time what you'll see it wouldn't be known by the casino already?
    If after so much time you determine that on the specific wheel there is no edge to be found wouldn't be a terrible waste of time?
    Do you include this time in your calculations when you claim net profit per hour?
    Let's say you find a wheel with 2 dominant diamonds/deflectors and an average Joe who bets on the same table sees 2 dominant dozens on his statistics, why your stats are valid while Joe's are absurd/fallacy?
    If past numbers don't influence future ones then your physics stats are fallacious too because belong in the past too!
    Who says that the same: numbers, rotor's & ball's speed, diamonds/deflectors would be so consistent and persistent in order you to profit?
    Bottom line, your physics stats are as good as any other stats under any math context, but you consider yourselves superior to the rest, that is the greatest fallacy!
    Last but not least, dealers are not your friends, you cannot buy them out because are already being bought by the casinos, they are there not to make you money but because they are getting paid to do so.
    When you win and lose it's not because of them, it just happens so don't waste money on tips, 1 or 2 0's are already enough tips.
    Casinos are not charitable institutions, neither you should be, the mentality of the professional player is hard to adapt; disciplined, patient, focused, faces win and loss in the same, moderate manner, he cannot be surprised by anything because he has already considered and planned carefully every step of the way to victory.
     
  3. BlueAngel

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    Dealers are being instructed to randomize their spins, that's why they spin with varying speeds the ball and the rotor, their purpose is to mix things up as much as possible, they try to avoid anything consistent in order not to be noticed and exposed by players.
    They spin thousands times before they start dealing tables, on each and every one of them there is a scrutinized check on their spins by statisticians in order to determine if there are notable patterns, if they do find then such dealers are being discarded and they never reach the tables.
    On the top of the randomization of the wheel's layout, the alternating spin directions, they change dealers from 1 table to the next per 10 to 15 minutes, it used to be 30 to 40 minutes per table.
    Also the game used to have a slower pace, but not anymore, guess why...all in the name of randomization process, in order to mix things and confuse you.
    Gamblers be aware!
    Another thing which has not failed not even 1 single time is the betting patterns, I've been at several countries and no matter which casino there are always 2 up to 4 persons who bet randomly straight up numbers, all together they cover from 20 to 30 numbers approximately, you might not see outside bets, but you'll always witness that everywhere, so I was just wondering why the specific betting pattern is so persistent without exception?
    Frequently people discuss bets about splits,streets,quads,lines,dozens,columns and EC's on the forums, why such bets are almost non existent at B&M casinos?
    It's like you see a different world inside B&M casinos, regardless of the country.
     
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  4. Neal Pace

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    Some people believe in fate and sticking to what they know ie: a winning store, a winning casino, winning roulette numbers. I think honestly that people in general hate change and if they think something is working for them, they will be very resistant to changing that.
     
  5. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    I only asked because I am on a lottery forum (and the mod, lol). A guy says he goes only to ONE store because he gets MANY small wins. Point being......keep on going there if that works for you (I guess?).

    Ken
     

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