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Blackjack STADIUM BLACKJACK

Discussion in 'Blackjack Forum' started by BUZZARD, Mar 1, 2017.

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How long will Stadium BJ last in Vegas

  1. Be gone by summer

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  2. will spread like wildfire

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  3. last as long as Pokertex poker tables did

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  4. Who cares ?

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  1. BUZZARD

    BUZZARD Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Anybody know how Stadium BJ works ? I mean really know. Is there a 30 second countdown clock, a 10 second clock? what if just a few players, and they hit rebet, does that change anything? On a BJ does player lose just original bet? Can I have 2 card 11, DD for a 3 card 21, then later , after community cards are dealt, dealer has BJ and I lose ? Just original bet, I hope.
    But a 3 card 21, I have pushed on it occasionally, but in 50 years of playing BJ, never LOST on a 3 card 21 WTF
     
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  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    The stadium bj/bac/roulette that they have there is a cool concept but it is targeted at the WRONG group of people... the 20 somethings. If the MGM was smart they would have targeted Asians, like the Palazzo and Bellagio, not young people. Young people don't want to gamble because they can't afford beer if they do, and they can't really afford the beer because they also have to pay to park or Uber to get them from a casino that doesn't charge for parking in the first place! Asians don't want to play in a pit when the music is so loud, and when they're surrounded by drunk kids tossing ping pong balls in beer.

    By the way, did you know that they charge $6.50 just for bottled water at the bar in that pit?
     
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  3. BUZZARD

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    Well, they are playing 6/5 BJ ! Is it just generic bottled water. Probably
     
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    We were messing around with the bac, and the waitress came by and took our drink orders, as well as the people a few machines down. About 45 minutes went by and we never got out drinks. We looked down where the waitress stand was and she was just standing talking with the other waitresses. Finally I went down to ask where our drinks were and she said, "I can't bring you drinks because I'm the only one in the lower section now." So I asked the bartender for a water. He said that it was $6.50 for the water! I went back up and explained to everyone that we wouldn't be getting our drink orders, so we all left, including the other disgusted people in the pit. The MGM just doesn't understand customer service the way that the Wynn does.
     
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  5. RS

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    Good ol' fashioned community cards in Blackjack, my favorite!
     
  6. BUZZARD

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    Damn, doesn't anybody know or played Stadium Blackjack WTF
     
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    I don't know anything about stadium blackjack.
     

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    Nevada gaming regs are pretty vague. I mean, there's practically zero information on different games, at least compared to other states. I think NJ's and PA's have pages describing how a BJ dealer is to deal the cards (which hand, motion, etc.) and how to reveal them and all that. NV's is like "each player is dealt 2 cards by dealer then win determined by dealer" while others are like "each player or position with chip instruments in designated zones for betting purposes between the stated table game minimum and maximum wager unless otherwise stated...." It's like as lawyer-esque as you can imagine out there in NJ and NV's like "yup, it's Blackjack, exactly what you'd expect".


    Seriously, look up other states' gaming regulations. I think there's like 10 pages just describing what a card is in blackjack (not to be confused with a pai gow or bacarat card) and probably 50 more describing what a die is in craps, at least in NJ or PA.
     
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    Thanks Will do. Meantime Elliot Frome is checking inside SHFL. I imagine player would only lose original bet. But with 6/5 BJ and now even money at Hooters, you never know HaHa
     
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    Yes, that is true. You never know. Ha Ha.
     
  12. Mission146

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    I will try to make a few calls and get you some more definite answers, but I do know with the Bubble Craps the game gives the player x amount of time to, "Push the button," but there is also a certain amount of time before that to Place/Adjust bets. On any of those games that I have seen, there is no equivalent of a, 'Ready,' button that all the players could hit to move the game along. It is also the same thing with the VegasStar Roulette, and I think that's another Scientific Games product, by way of the former SHFL. Again, there's no button for, "Let's get this going," you sit there and wait for the bet time counter to wind down.

    However, that's all hypothesis and I've yet to see the devices. I'll see if I can get some answers and we should start a new thread here with all of that, such as not to derail this one, which I will also do. You may need to give me a little time, but I won't forget.

    I can't speak for the State of Pennsylvania, but I can tell you that you would be surprised how these types of things work elsewhere. For example, in West Virginia, while these things are treated as a Slot Machine for W-2G purposes, they are treated as a Table Game for any other purpose. That is the reason why Table Games must remain staffed 24 hours, or alternatively, turn off the machines. That is also why the vouchers for them can only be cashed at the cage, and cannot be put into another machine. (Maybe you could move Bubble Craps vouchers to Vegas Star and vice-versa? Don't know. Never tried.) You definitely can't put them anywhere else, though.

    I could see installs of this going just about anywhere, you never know when you will see a Bubble Craps or a VegasStar Roulette pop up. At one of the casinos closest to where I live, the minimum PL/DP bet is $3 whereas the physical table is usually only $5, yet the physical table sometimes sits half-empty when there are three or four players on the machine. Sometimes it is the other way around, but usually it's the first way, or players on both. I don't know what the minimum bet for center action is on those, but I think it's $1, same as the physical table. I guess the loss per hour is less, but in terms of the lost dollars/cents EV on my action, give me the physical table...unless an occasion comes up where I have a really good reason to play the machine. ;)
     
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    Rapidly striking out. Elliot Frome not getting any info, WON no help, Mission 146 has not responded WTF Las Vegas Rules don't even cover No Hole Card. PA gaming board only has meeting with SHFL and Casino management about how great Stadium BJ will be and the usual hype about millenials.
    SHFL girl said DEalers will be very very happy that each station has a Tip Button. Tried New Jersey rules, nothing. Surely I am an idiot and somewhere there is info on net about Stadium BJ and or SHAQJACK beyond manufacturer hype or reviews from players. Player review say Stadium at Pellazio pays 6/5 or 3/2 maybe. ShaQ reviews say you can play one hand or all 3 hands or maybe not. One video hype says you can play your hand and no longer have to worry about the dealer only being 3 feet away from you.
    Yeah , like I want the hot dealer and her treasure chest 35 feet away!!!! Anybody got a link that will have real info about Stadium BJ or Shagjack. ANYBODY ?????
     
  14. Mission146

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    I'm working on it, I didn't necessarily expect that they would get back to me immediately, but I imagine they will sometime. I'm not exactly a VIP...lol...but I think I'll get an answer sooner or later.
     


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