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Feedback SUGGESTION: Create sub-forum to keep Sellers away from main forums

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Comments / Criticisms / Problems' started by soxfan, Aug 10, 2021.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    In future I think it would be beneficial to confine cats what wanna sell or promote the book or system to a seperate sub-forum for system seller. That way coconut system/book seller like the Tablone can't clog up the joint and baccarats section with thier nonsenses and bulls shits, hey hey.
     
  2. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Yes agree, maybe have a tadpole thread for new members so they can’t launch into trolling as their first posts. Red flag for a sock if ever there was one. Just a thought. Cheers
     
  3. Stephen Tabone

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    You 'confine' or ban the greatest casino betting system creators in the world, -- and I might not be the only one now or in the future -- and you lose valuable content, I/we will go elsewhere. And where we go gets all the content thus all the views. Don't blame me confine the trolls. If you prefer le trolls over the likes of me, say so, we will have a vote, and if I lose, I will go for good, no hard feelings. Thus who is it, me and my kind or Jae and bellringtoday and their kind? Note there is no option to 'confine' trolls.

    VOTE NOW.

    IF YOU WANT ME TO REMAIN OR LEAVE

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    REMAIN
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    LEAVE
     
  4. Stephen Tabone

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  5. Admin Team

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    Selling, advertising, and promoting is actually against our rules.

    Selling, advertising, and promoting can only be done either via the Signature or paid advertising.

    If any member is attempting to sell, advertise, or promote themselves or their products/services outside of those 2 options, then please report their posts so that we can take action.

    Thank you.
     
  6. Stephen Tabone

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    I'm going to put my hands up, -- with mitigating circumstances -- I did advertise indirectly, but without direct intentions to, and I did so to defend my work against my troll's accusations, because I had reported him a number of times and no action was taken against him at the time and I don't believe since. He was referring to my books and I replied with titles, not with the purpose of trying to generate sales, but in defending my work, which there was no other option available to me at the time.

    I deserve to be banned, I know, and I fully expect to be.
    I shall email the site too so that my user account can be removed.
     
  7. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Then why do you allow that piece of shit Tablone to promote his book in every single thread on here, hey hey?
     

  8. Punkcity

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    Look I personally don’t mind book selling promotion, if we didn’t have “system sellers” the casino world wide would struggle. Posters this forum would be made redundant from their casino jobs, that in turn negates the degen gambling fallacy they promote, which impact this forum as they ( ex casino employees) would have to work in other industries that suits their intellectual prowess (rlmao) so the evolving cycle gets disrupted.
    If that happens less casino around and we have to go online etc.

    No
    Let the system sellers have a go , but all I ask and continue to ask is that, Stephen as an example , moderate their posts to not just be pure unadulterated SPAM.
    This forum has shown by posters own admissions that they do buy, consider buying, have thought of buying systems.

    Fair call for their own thread ,own forum heading, maybe lock it up after say 5 posts . I do support people to earn a living, I do support my right to not be inundated with spam.
    Cheers
     
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  9. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    I would say stay but for fuk sake pull your head in. You do provide a service to the industry, you don’t gamble, you write, make a living as you must. I mean you could work as a dealer at a casino lol. and unfortunately they post their equally unproven methods here.
    Less spam , you are starting to sound like Rick from the young ones and mind you that’s Rick with a silent P.

    Cheers
     
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  10. Stephen Tabone

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    Right, I want to make some points.

    Although I do write systems;

    (a) I do give a lot of books away, recently x7 plus cost of posting was around £35 notwithstanding cost of books.
    (b) I always give massive discounts to my regular readers, I email them as any book I write is published to let them know there is a window of around 10 days before my agent ups the price. The prices rise a lot so that younger gamblers don't buy because I don't want to encourage novice gamblers seeking easy money. It takes time to build up profits, gaining units is a slow process and one needs discipline and younger gamblers do not have it. My books are meant for mature gamblers and pros looking for better ideas and the journey to the HG.
    (c) personally, all jokes aside, I don't make any money out of this, factor in my time and my costs it take me years to recover my losses, (and that's nothing to do with casino winnings, that's a separate matter) any long term book profits go to my agent. I'm happy to recover my expenses.
    (d) I am working with someone setting up a trading and investing website because there's a lot more money in that and advertisers are okay with that form of gambling. And I can write about trading and investing and generate many more book sales if I wrote books on trading and investing, not withstanding the content on the site.
    (f) honestly, people, some people have got me wrong, I'm not in this for the money, I enjoy writing about casino games and gambling and each of my betting systems is a journey to the HG. I believe my new book coming out is the HG.
    (g) I create my betting system to win money, and so others can win money, I don't want to lose nor do I want anyone else to lose. There's no profit in it for me if people lose playing my betting systems or any others. If I wanted to profit from people, I can set up a website, fill it with content and have affiliate links on every pages linked to online casino games and I could make millions. I don't want to profit from people's losses, or how much they stake therefore I don't do that. If that doesn't show that I'm genuine then I don't know what will. Because most of the other authors out there, and the youtubers have websites with affiliate links to online casinos and I do not. Yet they are all respected for some reason. See my point? Thus who is genuine?
     
  11. Punkcity

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    If your asking me then my answer is
    I don’t care.
    If you claim to be modern day mother Theresa good for you, I don’t care.
    Your cut and paste post equals spam, no indication you fully grasped my post. Rather than soliciting who’s on who’s team understanding of my post is a generic post on various posters response to system purchases. Therefore a need as I see it ONLY for a separate forum heading for seller, etc.

    Your exploits, good graces, mortal deficiencies whatever are of no concern one way or the other to me. I don’t care.
    But I do know spam when it’s served up on a plate continuously, unlike Eric idol I don’t like spam spam spam and more spam. I’ll have his spam spam spam and more spam. Cheers
     
  12. Admin Team

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    We don't see that you reported any of this. We don't read most posts on the site, so it's up to our members to report rule violations to bring them to our attention so that we can take action. If you do not report such rule violations, then expect them to go unaddressed.

    That being said, keep in mind that members who have products or services that they sell are allowed to address said products/services if other members bring them up for discussion. That is only fair. But they have to do so in a way that doesn't promote it. One type of promoting in such a discussion that is not allowed, for example, is posting where it can be purchased.

    We already let them have a go, via either their Signatures or paid advertising. We have no intention of changing our rule that prohibits Selling, Advertising, or Promoting in posts and threads. Keep in mind that we offer a free promoting option via Signatures and a paid promoting option via Advertising. The idea of the free promoting option is that it allows members to promote their products and services indirectly on all their posts without making their product and service the focus of their participation. This means that such members need to earn their credibility via discussions not involving their product and service, and in so doing, readers will become more and more interested in what they are promoting in their Signature, leading to more sales. Likewise, if a member is deemed not to be very credible or active, then there won't be much interest in what they are promoting in their Signature. This creates an incentive for members who have something to sell to contribute positively to the community.
     
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  13. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Gotta agree, so if you don’t care for what a poster is posting, don’t reply or bait with ridiculous statement it will die of its own accord.
    Makes sense. Yeah.
    I guess we are all not rocket scientist on this forum duh! Lol
     
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