Roulette Systems and methods available, will lose because ...

Hi Gentlemen.
And due respect to my Guru
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Every known betting SYSTEM and method available, will lose because of
a LOSING STREAKS that hits VERY HARD...and cause losses...
And every method will hit the edge, and the mean in the long, or averaging in very long run.
so..
the trillion cents question, is ...
HOW TO AVOID LOSING STREAKS THAT CAUSE LOSSES TO YOUR SYSTEM???
and take advantage of the so called mean, and averages?

Any opinion?

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PS:
if I say...
bet MARTHY for 10 steps..

"FOOL!"...
oops!..some one already howl out loud....
"20 losses in row happened before!"....he howl out loud again...
oh I see,
Since everyone agreed that 20 losses in ROW, may hit...
then why not bet AFTER 20 losses happened, and the bet after a hit, and bet 10 steps marthy,
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB, RED HIT , start bet BLACK for 10 steps,...

test it for 10 million spins with your computer and then declare it a grail..
hahahaaa...

 

Aw, you know the answer to that. No need for preachers or howlers.

 

Beat-the-wheel,

Try as you might, you can't step outside of probability by waiting for what you believe to be a rare event.

Furthermore, the rare event will always be rewarded with a payoff that is less than fair. (The house edge).

 

Playing after 20 steps is not beneficial or practical because:
1. you will see a 20 spins loss roughly once in a million spins,so you may need to wait your entire life to get an opportunity to place a bet, this way.
2. even if you keep winning 1 units with this and encounter a single loss in a billion spins, it will take away all your wins, in one go.
Knowledge of "virtual limit" is not to use "martingale". Remember, "virtual" means, "close to real" and not absolute.

 

Hello Dr. Sir AnyoneAnyone...TwoCatSam,MeowMeow

When people say, bet Marthy 10 step,
critics will howl out loud, that 20losses possible.
Then when people say wait 20losses to stop, and the reverse hit, then bet 10steps,
u say "you can't step outside of probability by waiting for what you believe to be a rare event."

BUT that not the real question...
or the real answer!
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The trillion cents question, is WHY A SYSTEM FAIL?!

Simply because a long streaks of losses, that depleted the bankroll.
just that simple!
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If you do not understand but very eager to learn, then spend 300 hours to read all available theories of probability, regression toward mean, ecart, bla, bla,bla....on the net, free of charge.
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then spend another 300 hours, to read every available systems and methods to see and test...and u will come to CONCLUSION, that a system lose, because of a streaks of long losses that depleted the bankroll!
JUST THAT SIMPLE.
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ie.
Marthy lose= 10losses in row....or more...
Fibo lose= too few , to far, win in between...
Labby=ditto. LESS THAN 33%
Follow the last=chops that destroy the bankroll...thou the win about the same as losses...
in short...
EVERY SYSTEM AND METHOD AVAILABLE ....LOSE...HIT BY LONG STREAKS OF LOSS PATTERN...
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If U are not motivated, or have no BURNING DESIRE to learn,
ENTHUSIASIAM to read, to investigate, to calculate the facts, the theory, the , the, the....BLA,BLA.BLA....
iF U choose not to read all that FREE articles in the net....
{hey! I am not trying to sell anything here!!!}

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Then JUST forget about gambling, u will be just a joker sniggering,
commenting others points of view ,..without any substance.

U need to become a THINKER...think, think, think, very hard!...
But thinking is very hard, as Mr Ford said, that is why,
many people CHOOSE not to engage in thinking....
they choose to become a JOKER,[ thats u can see, almost everywhere, theres lots of jokers...]

All that EDGE stuff, had become STALE since the first casino open for business,
even without ZERO on the wheel,
or if u replace the zero with any number of your choice,
or if u deleted the ZERO from your roulette data, many system still cant win.
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Talking about the EDGE here to peoples here....,
Duh! It only show how much you had learned...
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THINK< THINK< THINK. ....VERY HARD.
WHY A SYSTEM FAIL, WHY A STREAKS DOOMED A METHOD!???
and how to .......
and the real TRILLION CENTS QUESTION...

HOW TO take advantage when the LOSING STREAKS HAPPENED!
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THINK, THINK, THINK...
or just forget u had read my post here, concentrate on your other pressing and better thing to do, ...hey, life short, no need to get even, or get mad, get a life, its a beautiful world out there ,
........
I will not give u the answer, U need to SEARCH the answer yourself!

The peoples who know the answer will not POST them here...or anywhere ...
For why should they?!
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THINK VERY HARD!!!

 

Hi ALBALAHA.
Thats what I mean when I say that in PS.

and since my English no good, U give the best answer!
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U hit the donkey on it's head with a sledgehammer, with that answer!!!

but people just dont understand what I mean.


People are very FOND to test up to ten millions spins and declare a system failed.
Thats why I say , wait for 20losse, then it will win, and declared this system a GRAIL. hahahaaa!!!

 

Dear Wong,
Knowledge of the virtual limit is to demotivate the use of "martingale" not to "promote" it. I promote only positive gambling. Playing marty in any manner, is the worst way to play. It can be tried only to fool someone that you can win with guarantee, at least 1 unit. Let a 10 step streak come and make upto 10 step betting against the streak. unless you are the unluckiest guy on the earth, you will win 1 unit from casino.
Such things are not worthy of serious play.

 

I think any person who is versed in roulette full well knows that dispersion ruins the game Meow Meow

If red came every third spin............

Today at Riverwind I saw....not once, but twice in six hours--fourteen reds in a row. Now that's dispersion or whatever you choose to call it.

If you have found a way to predict it/avoid it, my hat is off to you. You very well could be the only person on the planet who has.

TwoCat Meow Meow

 

the most simple way I know to avoid what happened to you Sam is simple.

Bet more than one EC !!!!

 

TwoCat,

Do you guys have Organic Roulette down there?

 

Hi Albalaha,

Thanks for yr reply, appreciate them.

I just WONDER,
WHY people never ASK the QUESTION...
"Why... A system lose...? How to overcome this problem>"...

[and I begin to sound like broken record...]

Simply because a certain LOSING STREAKS that depleted their BANKROLL...

And the TRILLION cents question, HOW to take advantage of the answer!

"...because a certain LOSING STREAKS that depleted their BANKROLL..."

as u see, losing and winning..
ALWAYS OSCILLATE...up and down...

Win, because a winning patterns hit..
Losing...
because a certain losing streaks hit....

U see...up and down...up and down...up and down...


And the TRILLION cents question, HOW to take advantage of the answer!

[.up and down...up and down...up and down...]

but people choose to argue about, the stale EDGE...the boring "50% chance of hit", and the sleep inducing bla..bla..bla..
duh....



and sarcastically, if a losing streaks broke the bankroll, then why not ,just wait out that certain streaks and that a grail...
simple, isnt it?






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Hi TwoCatSam, Meow Meow

[I thought u will upset when I wrote MEOWWW-Meowwwww!
heheheee. oops, sorry to laugh out gleefully...
U a SPORTING and humor person. Thanks God...]

I think....

a way to predict it/avoid it,

is simply wait, for the...

"dispersion ruins the game" to arrived,
and out-do them,
surely they, the dispersion, wont hit twice...

that ONLY what I think,
for I m no expert,
and not making money from the casino...
just write to discuss...
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A few years ago, there a hoohaah, about a gentleman named Balvinder Singh, sue casino in England,he got banned, because always win, by waiting for 7 red/black , or CHOP rbrbrbr ... then he bet ..err...Marthy to win, as he assumed that marthy wont outlast 17 losses. or 17 chops...

ie
chop=rbrbrbr.....[start bet] brbrbr.....r=win!

u may google to read more...

Thanks Gentlemen...


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At Riverwind, we have the 0/00 American RNG by Roulette Evolution. In spite of what people say about RNGs, I believe this to be a fair device. I see far too many people win several hundred-dollar payouts.

Sam

 

Mr. Wheel

It did not "happen to me" as I would never play a Martingale on ECs. I merely observed it. Normally--whatever that is---you see runs of two and three ECs. You may play for hours or days until you see the "run from hell". But you can't dodge it forever and when it hits, you're toast.

Hear me now and believe me later.

Sam

 

Mr. BTW

At the expense of wearing out my fingertips for naught, I will explain why you don't wait for six reds and then bet black. Say you just bet black from the get-go. You can bet every spin! Now if you wait for six reds before you bet, you have cut your opportunities to bet way, way down. It may take ages to find six reds in a row.

Now the sickening part.

Do you have some logical reason why the ball should not hit red for the next six spins? There simply is none. When you make that bet after six, you have the same chance as if you had never waited. Virtual betting just simply won't work. (Hear me now and believe me later!) I have run robots for days on end and the proof is in the losing.

Explore the VLS LW Methodology if you want to find a way to have a half-assed chance of knowing which way the wind is blowing. Now, YOU Google it!

And a saucer of milk for you, my friend.

TwoCat

 

OOPS

I mistook ddarko for Mr. Wheel. Sorry to both of you. It's late; I'm old!

Samster

 

What that Balvinder Singh play,
is really simple.
He ASSUMED that he will not see, in his entire lifetime, that...

LOSSES of a color or chop will not over 17spins.
THUS...

ie



RED,RED,RED,RED,RED,RED,RED...[7RED]
now he bet BLACK for 10 steps MARTHY!

or..


RED,black,REDblack,REDblack,RED...[7chops]
now he bet that the chop will stop, and bet RED, if lose he bet BLACK...
[he will bet RBRBRBRBRB for 10 steps marthy!


He CLAIMED, he never lose.....
try at your own risk....
thanks for reading.

 

No, you try it at YOUR own risk!

 

No Problem Sam, I meant to avoid those spins, not that you bet that way.

Sry for not being clear !!!

 

Playing after 7 losses or 10 losses or any amount of consecutive losses will not let you win, by itself, whether you go flat bet or use a mild progression or even martingale or grand martingale. Such fallacies come to mind only because you can not simulate enough or have no access to simulations done by others. Playing after X consecutive losses will only prolong your play and give you a slower win. In no manner, it can make you a better player.
I have gone through 100s of systems for sale or for free. None ever talks of the overall probability of the game and gives only false hopes. In good times, everything will win but how to handle not so good or worst times, every system is silent.

 

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In good times, everything will win but how to handle not so good or worst times, every system is silent.[/QUOTE]

YES!
Thats the REAL QUESTION, and the REAL intention of this post...

Instead of hitting the nail on it's head,
people seems to meow-meow here and meow-meow there,
scratch-scratch here,scratch-scratch here,

HELLO gentlemen,
please think hard, of the real issue...

HOW TO AVOID LOSING STREAKS THAT CAUSE LOSSES TO YOUR SYSTEM???
and take advantage of the so called mean, and averages?

or in Albalaha words...

"everything will win but how to handle not so good or worst times"..