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Baccarat Ten people needed to post x200 baccarat outcomes

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Stephen Tabone, Aug 5, 2021.

  1. fathead

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    Quite exciting! Continued good luck to you and your friend. I look forward to playing some test shoes. **keeping an open mind**

    In the US I don't think the casinos would care if a bettor wins (other than cheaters or blackjack card counters). In their mind it is just temporary, they feel you will lose it back eventually. Like your friend is experiencing, if you win large amounts you get VIP special treatment like free suites, food and beverage, shows, trips, airfare. They want you back so you will lose your winnings back. Maybe things are different in the UK and Australia.
     
  2. twibble

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    IF it did work as i have said before they would shut the even chance games down in an instance,therefore i predict your system is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
    I may be wrong but i doubt it!
     
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    I know lots of folks have ridiculed, made fun of and discounted your books and post. For that, I apologize. It has become very apparent on this post, you suffer from actual reality, among other things.
    From this point forward I will not respond to your post and hope that others follow along.
    It is my hope that you will seek and receive the much needed help.

    Good luck sir.
     
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  4. Stephen Tabone

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    You can't doubt it until you read it, then you can doubt it, then you must test it, then it works or it does not. If you find it works you will still doubt it. Some people doubt everything. They even doubt if there are existing. I can't help that, I can only release my system to be tested. I have already stated that of those 7 people posting those 200x each, my system would win on all of them. Those people are not connected to me, you should know this. If this fact doesn't give you any confidence, then I'm starting to doubt if you're a real person, nice most real people have a sense of hope and reasonable people suspend their judgement until they see the evidence.
     
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  5. Stephen Tabone

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    You hope others don't contact me? If you don't want to then don't, but allow others to decide for themselves, why will others to join your actions. That's rather a manipulative mindset.

    You're correct I do need help, so I have two editors helping on the book.
     
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  6. Stephen Tabone

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    You doubt it, but you have not subitted 200x outcomes... wonder why...don't want my new system to win on them perhaps?
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

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    Let us not be pessimistic.................LUCK is still around.



    Fair enough ?
     

  8. Stephen Tabone

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    *submitted
     
  9. Stephen Tabone

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    Luck plays but a small part. A good system doesn't depend upon luck. A good system depends on the timing of bet/wagering selections on the whole with some side rules to regulate the process.
     
  10. twibble

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    as i said i may be wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ps i have tried a few of your systems and you have made more money out of them than me.
     
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  11. Stephen Tabone

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    Just wanted to report a little update, started to go through the sets of outcomes, to give a rough idea of the levels of risk to reward, (not representing all games played, will use "..." to mean more than 1 game before next result, could be 5 or 10 games, all different, but to give you a rough idea. And BE means break even.
    "-" mean minus i.e. in loss AND "+" means plus i.e. in profit
    I'm not including any info re stop losses and triggers etc. This is just so you get a rough idea of what to expect.

    ... -6
    -5
    -3
    BE
    +3
    BE
    +2
    -1
    +1
    +4
    +1
    -1
    -2
    -1
    ... -6
    ... -4
    ... -9
    ... -1
    ... -10
    ... BE
    ... -7
    ... -1
    ... -9
    ... BE
    ... +18

    Using my new system, on one of the tests of outcomes submitted by a certain member, you could have stopped at +4 then on recovery (if you decided to continue) over +4 towards +18, the rules of my system would see you making more than +12

    The above results were based on a little over an eight deck shoe. Or 1.3 six deck shoes.

    Let me know what you think...does this sound good or not? The reward was up to this point almost double the risk that was -10
    It's the truth and I will use the example in my book, these results and more will be connected to the outcomes. So you know I can't cheat. And all outcomes submitted by other members will be applied to my new system as further proof.
     
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  12. Stephen Tabone

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    *sets of outcomes
     
  13. Stephen Tabone

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    This is why I'm saying, I think this is the HG, and a system that can be understood by all kinds of bettor, not just pros, and semi pros, but it's a concept that anyone can apply. What makes this the HG is its stable state, reverting to the Break Even from ups/downs, in profit/loss and it reaches a profitable target. A HG doesn't need to keep climbing into further infinite profit for it to be a high ranking HG.
     
  14. Bactz

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    Ok Stephen so just wondering, what are the average percentage numbers for winning rate per 10 shuffled shoes?
    Eg: on average expect to win X shoes out of 10 shoes.....
     
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  15. Jae

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    Between -1.01 and -1.24%

    Use that figure times however many place bets (units) you make in those ten shoes and you’ll have an unfabricated idea of your return using any of his methods. Obviously, variance and luck factor in a bit when we are only talking 10 shoes (that’s the short run), but don’t expect a scammer to give you this accurate information, plus he doesn’t really understand math or the house edge in this game.
     
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  16. Stephen Tabone

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    Thank you for your question Bactz.

    Before I answer it, I'd like to address le monster jealous troll who plagues this forum with his psychosocial upbringing and limp life. I've already successfully refuted all his his false accusations. He claims I'm a scammer who knows nothing about baccarat. lol. I write for the 888 casino and I have 12 casino gaming books. If I didn't know nothing about casino games, namely baccarat I wouldn't be a bestselling author. I've shown he doesn't understand definition of words. To form a betting system based on my expert opinion with attached disclaimer is not selling a scam! It's safe therefore to conclude that le troll has been defeated and it's best to just ignore him because we don't want to fuel his psychopathic cybercrime behaviour. We know he has no friends and no one likes him save some feel sorry for him so they like his posts. At least we know the intelligent people and true baccarat pros pay him no attention. Let's just leave him to continue in his delusions, that he is a multi millionaire, made his money from baccarat, who won $600,000 in one day with his team playing baccarat, who met the president BO, who bought and read my books, who has a top lawyer girlfriend...all showing no evidence for. He even pretends to solve the rubric's cube from behind his head and apply this to winning at baccarat. Completely deluded.

    So on x10 shoes, I expect to generate a profit within every x2 shoes or 120 outcomes (when based on 6 deck shoes) thus one and a half 8 deck shoes. It's best for this system to deal with outcomes rather than shoes since one session could follow on into another shoe. But as a rough idea, -- since there are lots of analytical worthy questions that can be answered and would need to be worked out, and I'm in the process of writing the system and dealing with such questions -- I would expect to make a profit over the course of 1 to 2 shoes. +1 to +3 units low average, +4.5 units mid range average, +9 upper average +15 higher average. My approx. Av over 120 outcomes is +7.5. Thus over x10 shoes I expect to yield a +37.5 units profit. If I play super safe which I will go into more details not to, I would expect to gain +15 units over x10 shoes. But taking the true average as aforementioned more than double. In short I could break it down to a +3.5 units win per shoe, but as I wrote my system is based on strings of outcomes in in-game flow rather than being restricted by individual shoes. Hope this answers your questions. If not feel free to press me further on this. Or if you have any other questions I'd be delighted to answer.
     
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  17. Punkcity

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    Yes it’s different in skippythopia, we only have 1 read again 1 casino in each city as per 12/08/2021. The monopoly syndrome is of course the bug bearer of skippyites especially when we read about the comps etc offers by Asian and Vegas casino to get you to spend your cash with them rather than the casino NEXT door.

    Here NEXT door is 4 hrs away min via air ( hr to check in , hr to fly, plus min hr before and after airport for travel to time etc) drive can be 6 rs to 12 hrs etc. So not a lot of leeway to screw down the best deal etc.

    As for win or lose in skippythopia casino unless you are cheating they actually don’t really care. They work on volume for every 1 winner ( $10k plus per day) there are thousands of losers in the $1 k to $10 k plus per day. The comp system is basically non existent in comparison to Asia/USA.
    I do practice responsible gaming, I don’t flaunt my win etc as per previous posts I’ve made other threads , I’m on record so won’t cut and paste etc. I err on the side of caution nevertheless. If I’m wrong, no problem I don’t have to jump a plane to another city every day to play , if I’m right and until now it’s been working for me then I still don’t have to jump on a plane to another city to play. Win win situation.
    Here you win large jackpot yes they vip you to get that cash back. Most car win promotion are cash swap and car gets the recycle next promotion lol.
    For people to get banned here ( from my limited experience of known bans) 99:9999% it’s due to factors other than legitimate wins. The :00001% that claimed it’s because of a huge win are full of shit. They forgot that other people do watch what other people do , even though they themselves are moronically oblivious. I have witnessed them cheating yet they claim otherwise. Lol.

    But big wins like Stephen claim is going to happen, well we will just see how that goes. At the moment it’s speculation/ anticipation/ projectionisms ( my new word track that one Nate? Dumb fk) if and when the proposed “system” goes live we will see how if at all it alters the casino landscape.
    If it’s problematic we all will be aware of it due to the news cycles, if it changes the way casino allows you the individual to do business then we ( I myself) will adapt or perish. Up until then it’s just everyone smelling the same stale fart in the same cubicle.
    So Steve get your new system live and we can all cut to the chase. Personally I don’t believe you will wreck the casino playing field for the rest of us. You may be known in casino folklore as the man that fucked our golden goose ,and that may give you a hard on , but I don’t think so.

    If you do make an impact, the casino will just move the goalposts as per usual. We have all witnessed that in one form or another with various degrees of success/failure on the casino part to realign “their edge” . As stated if that happens we will just adjust ourselves and carry on.
    The beautiful thing most forget is that they casino will only hit the “system” that is doing the look at me I’m a princess, for the 99.9% of the rest of us it’s business as usual .

    As an example I was travelling years ago in a country far from skippthopia , but we spoke the similar language, our house was raided in the am by the police, they were looking for stolen goods, video players, DVD players and CD players etc.
    my bedroom 1 back pack, 1 double mattress on floor, no cupboards. I’m in bed with sweetheart. Cops “ we’re here to search the room for stolen good, me “ good luck with that. cops “ you not from here, you from skipptolhopia? Me “ yeah mate “
    Cop “ yes I see no stolen goods here , what about drugs? We will search for them”
    me “ you are after bigger fish than a bag of pot or some brown brown”
    Cop “ yes your right “ then proceeded to ask about skippthopia and how he and wife always wanted to go there. After they all left empty handed we sparked up from hastily hidden stash under the covers, and had a great morning.

    Stephen may or not make some cash by attempting to bust the casino, selling a few books but it’s hardly going to rip the fabric of the universe. Lol

    Who does that sound like Nate? Lol. Cheers
     
  18. Stephen Tabone

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    I believe it is the HG. I do not know what the implication might be, moreover if everyone gets to learn it. I haven't thought it through. If the casinos do change something as a result then my HG system this would be bad for bettors and I wouldn't be happy about that, for them or me as a bettor using it to win. Sure system will fly off the shelves, but in many respects looking at the bigger picture, if a change was made -- and I'd have to think about how, what they might do -- this would be very bad indeed, because on the journey to the HG, it's already taken me many years, and if proven by many bettors this is the HG then it defeats the purpose I set out to achieve. I want people to win. The only other alternative would be not to release it. If I release it to just one person, it's no longer a secret and others will find out about it. It's difficult to know what to do.
     
  19. Punkcity

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    Don’t lose any sleep over it. Not going to happen. Everyone that buys it , 90% will NOT succeed AT All.
    8% will have moderate success from breaking even to maybe a modest profit on a semi regular basis
    1% will never use it and is only a theoretical mind food.
    .05% will do Very well on a regular basis, the other 3 or 4 people out of an estimated 10,000 purchasers can and may cause the casino industry some minor attention.

    The reason people are predisposed to system purchases is usually they have no idea, concept or ability to work something out for themselves. Some use a Marty as weapon of choice, the casino handles them easily etc. nothing new.

    Those same system buyers have bought many other systems. Even if you ARE selling the holy grail , in the hands of the average intelligent buyer, I’m being generous, the majority will butcher it , not understand it machinations and completely cock it up and will be thankful they didn’t quit their daytime dealing job at the casino, lol.
    Very very few if ANY will be able to pick up the ball and run with it. This you know as fact Stephen. This is why you write because previous buyers cannot get the system to WORK, from training people in various things in my lifetime, very few actually learn and succeed , I find they will “re incorporate previous learned habits, biases and flawed techniques” and retro fit to the new vehicle being demonstrated. I’m talking about black and white statement, 1+1=2 situations etc. After a period of time they bring their old habits back to the playing field.

    Professional players need recoaching on an ongoing basis. Tennis, rugby, swimming etc.
    So the statement above stands , the average monkey will butcher the supposed holy grail. All holy grail will be ridiculed rightly or wrongly, take the cash from your sales and enjoy.

    I reiterate the fabric of the casinoverse will not be torn asunder and the rest of us will not be sucked into the vacuum of a holy grail disaster.
    Lol
     
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    Stevie. I clicked on your profile and read all of the posts you make on your profile page, the conversations you’ve been having with yourself. It was a wild ride for sure. Undoubtedly you’ll take this as a compliment, but you totally remind me of our former president Trump, if he were not born with a silver spoon. This should give you some more hope as it doesn’t matter how stupid he sounds when he talks or how many lies he spews out of his mouth, he still gets a lot of followers with his bullshit. And while your fantasy is to bankrupt a casino, he actually did it.
     
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