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Baccarat The Good, the Ugly & Human Nature

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Junket King, Apr 1, 2022.

  1. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

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    "Also 7-Col Anti-middle 3 and 8 Col AM4, again you lose too many bets when it fails. 4 and 5 respectively. What I'm doing at the mo' has me losing 2 bets max when it fails. "

    i thought that's what you WERE playing.

    What are you playing now? What's the name. I read an understand the ABR 7 and 8, but havent grasped it yet and dont understand why you have so many bets. Maybe im not understading it right.

    X X
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    O O
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    O * First possible bet here?
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    I dont understand the AM4,5,6 .
    Maybe bet against the streak in the middle of the book ends? XOOOOOOX this would be a 6 LIAR? or OXXXXXXO etc. i thnk i read every post at [removed] but didnt find the easy answer.

    Ill look for your answer at [removed] if you choose to reply thanks.

    Ill reread the other [removed] on the plane, I'm Flying to Vegas later today for the $500 ...5 million Guaranteed Opener... Wish I had the funds to play the $100K real opener today.

    Ill be in Vegas until Mid July for WSOP, let me know if you plan to be there so we can go terrorize the $10 bacarat tables together, that goes for you too Mr Punky if the Mr gives you permission by then and if you can find racoon and kangaroo pet babysitters. ;-}
     
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  2. JacobBlaze

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    I tried to edit.......

    oh well timeouts...

    Idea for you Junky. If you are just trying to get more bets using abr 7 or 8 have you tried running the same BS on the derived roads? ANd if you Add punkys MAgic Kangaroo Road you would have 5 sets of data to bet on same shoe. I tried it a couple of times and it does provide more betting opportunities, but not sure if im doing the method right. Ill do a write up in Vegas when I have time and post it at [removed]. And yeah its a bitch to track and maybe not suitable for your limits and casino environment... But an Idea if you never done that, but im sure you have. thanks
     
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  3. oopsididitagain

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    Oh, well, Soxfan had challenged Johno to winning 10 hands in a 100 hand shoe. But, now Soxfan's post was removed. No way to run a gambling site. Thought that I would throw in one more post. I give up here.
     
  4. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    You are an idiot to think I would waste my precious time catering to a racist cretin, to prove a point. The point has already been proven to others.

    After spending a little time looking at the 512/1 ABR option, decided to give it a whirl. While it fixes the problematic 256/1 shoes, does it break good shoes, I've no idea, I'm not a habitual tester, I'll do my testing at the table, it things don't feel right, I'll do something else.

    Buyin 100 base units, first three shoes 512/1 option, unfortunately due to some big hitter "super pay egalite" tie bettor each shoe took 2 hours for fuck sakes.

    These three shoes ran (ABR bets shown only)

    LWWL LLL W(hedged Tie)WW(Tie)W (not the greatest)
    LW(Tie)LLW WWW
    WLW LLL W(Tie)WW

    After which I reverted back to the 256/1 option as things were mildly confusing

    WL LLW W
    WLW W (this shoe produced a nice B8 streak and I was the only one at the table, so a free £50 :)
    Partial shoe LWW LWW W (I'm done)

    Profit 119 units, no I didn't round up this time, just wanted to get out, hence why I bailed the final shoe at hand 36.

    Here are the three 512/1 shoes;


    upload_2022-6-3_0-0-20.png
     
  5. soxfan

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    Bwwaaahh look at him pick off tem tie wager! No wonder the weasel ran from my challenge and ANYBODY who believes any of this lying cunt's utterances is a grade-A retard. This fool is almost as shameless as that singer character, hey hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. oopsididitagain

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  7. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    What the racist foul mouthed imbecile fails to grasp, is that I lose a fair amount of Tie bets, but I don't record their results, because they don't matter. I record all Tie wagers as losses whether they win or lose prior to the hand being dealt and recoup them later to reach my goal if required. This is the problem when you only play at "The Kitchen Table Casino", you don't get to see smart players such as me.
     

  8. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Changes, changes more changes and a fair bit of drama!!!

    Played a session Friday, utter shit, playing solo so that means flat betting DBL, shoe starts; BPPBPBPPPPBPPBPP, hardly anything over a 2 streak for the entire shoe, shoe ended -7 for DBL, while yakking to the dealers I missed a winning ABR bet FFS, basically got off to a very bad start.

    ABR > LLW LLW LLW LW, betting for a the top line repeat in a 3 hand series again absolute shite, 8 losses in a row, kinda lost it due to sheer frustration and reverted to a Fibo, which was never on my agenda, but these things happen,

    Shoe 2, LLLW LLW LLW W crap, as I'm playing safe, and LLW is useless when using a Labby.

    Anyway to cut to the chase, this was a "until closing" marathon session, 11 shoes later (I had been chasing all night after losing the first 3 shoes), I left negative 54 "base units".

    Now the casino is trying is getting me to conform with the "UK financial regulations act", FFS. I now have to show proof of earnings, which of course there isn't any!!!!! Thankfully I was contracting earlier this year, so I've emailed those payslips, hopefully that will suffice?

    Sunday I initially couldn't get in, as the email I sent bounced, managed to get that sorted. What happens next, we'll see!! As they have stated a few times, if I don't cash out, then what I buyin' for, counts as a loss, not that it bothers me, my figures are all that matters, but it doesn't look good, hence I have to provide paperwork. One of the managers showed me my overall total since I started playing at this joint, also for this year only, I can only say both figures were significantly inaccurate. Not the first time a casino has presented me with an overall balance for it to be way way off the mark. However with the former, I was getting others regulars to cash out for me, exchanging chips for cash in the toilet occasionality haha.

    On to today, goal 100u plus recoup of the prior 54u loss. Ditched bet for repeat at top and bottom of columns, too volatile, AM4 I generally wait for either 2 or 5 virtual losses, depends how I feel, if my strings are healthy or not. A bit for work to do, 32 level 2 units needing to be won, buyin nil, had approx 220 chips from Friday.

    ABR bets shown only
    Shoe 1; WLLL WW L W not great, maybe 32 target down to 28 or 30?

    Shoe 2; LW(TIE)LW(TIE)WW (great those hedged ties, instead of betting 2u, they kept my bets at 1u), That's it, no more ABR bets after hand 24, hmmmm

    Here's the thing, nothing beats being at an actual table to get the creative juices flowing, it's always been the way for me, a medium paced table, time to think and ponder. I've mentioned it a few times in this thread, if things go according to plan my ABR wins occur between hands 17 and 32, anything after that is basically problematic which equates to bigger bets and increased risk. So I'm looking at shoe 2, which overall ran;
    LWLW LWWL LWWLWWW WWW WL LWWL W W L, but after the ABR bets, I drop back to level one first gear bets to keep those Labby strings in check. But nothing has really worked for the long haul thus far; betting for the repeat in a 3 hand series, AM4, guess the fucking shoe, bet against symmetry and whatever else I have tried.. So I'm sitting there stirring at shoe #2, 24 hands and I'm treading the remainder of the shoe!!! Table hopping not an option.

    Then the penny dropped, brain-wave time. cut the friggin shoe in half, instead of playing "a shoe", play two shoes in one. Testing? Nar that is for the pussies, just fucking do it. Unresolved ABR bets, optional, keep attacking them or simply let them slide. One thing I did decide was for the back half of the shoe I would only bet level 1 units, basically to clean up the L1 Labby's. This means also (optional), a maximum of 2L for any given single horizontal BO. If things don't work, don't matter, I'll ditch it simple as. What are the implications for previously played problematic shoes, I've no idea, do I take a small hit rather than a big hit? I've not checked them yet, it's on my "to do" list.

    Shoe 3; L2 bets WLW(tie) W (I would be done here). Now back-half of shoe; WWLL W all L1 bets.

    Shoe 4; WWWW (again done), back-half; LWWWWLW LLWL LL

    Shoe 5; WLWW W (done), WLL LWWLLW LLLWW

    Shoe 6; WLWW WW, back-half LLW WLLLWL LLLW

    Shoe 7; LWL WW back-half WW W

    I'm done, 134u profit (while typing this I've just realised I short changed myself, had I realised I would have stayed longer, fuck it). Never under any pressure or stress, the casino are also moving their one and only automated shuffler to the table, which should be great news for me, these truly randomise the cards, which in generally result in choppy shoes in the main, so unlike almost all sessions I play, I shouldn't be seeing streaks of 7,8,9 or 10 player or banker runs, or hands come out showing the 6 of clubs 3 times due to poor shuffling, squeezing the cards and given 3x face cards, get the fuck outta here, etc, we'll see? Provided I get in of course and the thing doesn't jam which it was always prone to doing. Hopefully win win on both issues.
     
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  9. SPIKE

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    I get exhausted just reading these trip reports. You love gambling and I hate it, that's the difference. I just want it over with as fast as possible. Get in, get it done, get the hell out and go do something else that's actually worthwhile.
     
  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    I love winning, hate losing, gambling is just a means to an end, unfortunately it takes time and effort to win (grind) more than a unit.
     
  11. oopsididitagain

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    Can you make your lines a bit shorter, please, to fit the universal anagram solver? Johno's above comes out to something like "vine and wine". Ha.
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

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    What next " made to order TR " ? "As you like it "
     
  13. TwoUp

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    You get exhausted getting out of bed old man.

    You know nothing about getting the job done, you could have been done years ago if you had any sense based on your claimed 80%+ hit rate and 5 unit max draw down.
     
  14. SPIKE

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    Done with what, what the hell are you talkin about. Why would I be done with playing roulette, I'm in it for the added income, I've already explained all that. If somebody's not like you are it seems you get totally confused. You are trapped in the typical narcissistic math-head bubble, you are always right and everybody else is always wrong. Up until yesterday you didn't even know I use past outcomes, you thought I used tea leaves and tarot cards. You obviously know nothing about what I do but act like you're an expert. Typical.
     
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  15. TwoUp

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    Spike the handwaver.
     
  16. SPIKE

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    You keep using this term, is it some Australian anal retentive phrase, like Brits having to use the word 'brilliant' at least once in every sentence? It sounds ridiculous.
     
  17. TwoUp

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-waving

    It's when you wave your hands around because you have fuck all of anything to say.

    When I put it to you that your guessing uses past results to 'not predict' whilst also giving you an 80% edge, and you also say the past doesn't influence the future then why the fuck do you need to observe past results to make your "not predicting" guess?

    When you are cornered with your nonsesne all we get is more fucking hand waving from you. Nothing of substance.
     
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  18. Punkcity

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    In someone’s head MATE. Skipptophia.
    There really should be a penalty for deliberately hijacking’s of threads. Usual suspects AGAIN.
    You don’t like the tread DONT READ, DONT POST.

    You don’t like a member don’t follow him around from thread to thread like a love sick puppy that’s been jilted. Get over it , start your own personal attack thread , fuck , not rocket science.

    I read jk thread and prefer it to be bozo free.
     
  19. Punkcity

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    Clown, go hijack something else.
     
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  20. SPIKE

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    Past results in roulette cannot affect future results. The game resets itself after every spin. The last outcome can have no effect whatsoever on the next outcome. This is where the patterns come from. They are not really patterns but brain sees them as patterns and they can be exploited. Through study and observation of past outcomes certain repeatable traits appear and you'll learn how to read the random outcomes. I don't mean you of course, you will never learn anything new. You think you already know everything worth knowing. And just because people say things that you obviously have no hope of understanding does not mean they are not saying something important.
     

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