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Baccarat The Good, the Ugly & Human Nature

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Junket King, Apr 1, 2022.

  1. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    "It's random". And it's "not random." The past doesn't matter but then it does.. It's not really there but it can be exploited when you bet.

    For fucks sake.
     
  2. SPIKE

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    Nope 100% of the time it's always random. That's where the patterns come from. Duh
     
  3. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    Random doesn't have predicatable patterns numbskull.
     
  4. Nathan Detroit

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    Ergo " Never wise up a chump " .
     
  5. SPIKE

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    You are correct, nothing in roulette is predictable. But through study and observation you can make accurate educated guesses as to the next outcome. But you'll never know this because you'll never even try because you're in math prison with no hope of release. I love the fact that you think that prediction is the same thing as guessing. Do the weathermen in Australia make a guess on your TV as to what tomorrow's weather is going to be. If they did they'd been in business for about an hour because nobody would listen to them. They make predictions based on evidence and facts and in roulette there is no evidence and there are no facts so you can only make guesses. I know you understand this but you'll pretend you don't and you will continue to use the word prediction in incorrectly.
     
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  6. soxfan

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    Query, if all decision, past, present and future are 100% independent and random then how can you out-guess that to the tune of an 88$ strikes-rate clip? Some cats on here hurt my head with their bulls-shits and nonsenses. Limeys, spikes, gizmos and singers, oh my, hey hey!!!!
     
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  7. TwoUp

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    You have repeatedly said you use knowledge and past results to make a guess which is a statement about the future which you act on and claim you get better than 80% correct. This is the definition of a prediction, stop handwaving.
     

  8. SPIKE

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    Sorry I can't do 88% you must be thinking of somebody else. And that is the answer you will get from me from now on every time you mention this 88% bulshit.
     
  9. SPIKE

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    This is true, an educated guess. You cannot make predictions about random outcomes, that would be ridiculous. How would you do it. But you can make a guess about anything, you can make a guess about anything you can think of. If you have a little more knowledge about the subject matter you can make an educated guess but it's still a guess, never a prediction. You can predict the weather. You can predict where earthquakes will happen. A doctor can predict what will happen to a person in bad health. But nobody can predict what the next random outcome will be, all they can do is guess. Every single person you see betting at a roulette table is guessing. Including me, I'm just a little better at it than most. Is everybody in Australia as confused as you are?
     
  10. TwoUp

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    If someone guessed the weather right 80% every day would that be a prediction?

    Irrespective of the process used, when you make a statement about a future event, and betting on a future event is making a statement (and backing it) then you are making a prediction.

    You are just saying your approach is a "guess" because you just don't want to say it's a prediction.
     
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  11. SPIKE

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    I'm saying it's a guess because it's a guess and not a prediction. I don't make predictions for random outcomes I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to tell the future, I'm a very bad fortune teller. I don't have enough information from past outcomes to make a prediction, all I can do is take a stab at it with a guess. You are not the first one to go down this road because you want very much for me to say I make predictions because then you can then jump on it with both feet and go on and on about predicting the future. I know you think you're incredibly clever but this is old news to me. Anybody who says they can predict the next random outcome is lying to himself or lying to you because that's not possible.
     
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  12. TwoUp

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    But you do say you can predict the next outcome and get it right more than 80% of the time.

    You just don't like the stigma of your claims so you wave your hands about and say it's not a prediction.

    I guess your wins are called "lucky money", as you don't "win", it's just "luck" from a "guess".
     
  13. Rinad

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    both of you are on the same track. I can predict the very next spin, but could forecast what is most likely to happen within "xxxxamount " of spins.
    that simple.
     

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