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Baccarat The house edge is a scare tactic

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Stephen Tabone, Aug 2, 2021.

  1. Stephen Tabone

    Stephen Tabone Active Member

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    If you play on a shoe where half of your winnings are deducted on a banker say scoring a 6, and you happen to win on that banker then yes the house has gained its greedy slice of the cake. However betting only a few hands and maybe not all banker -- depending on the bet selections you're using informed by the betting system -- then you're hardly likely to be stung too much. Again given you might only make a few bets.

    Then to mitigate possible losses in respect of commission, the house's chunk, you could opt to play on the standard 5% commission of winnings on banker wins. There are some casinos who don't charge commission at all.

    Whatever version, when you limit the number of games you play on baccarat you might as well disregard the house edge because it's only a scare tactic used by those who lose because they are using poor bet selections and/or wagering increases and decreases.

    Thus the house edge shouldn't be allowed to be used as an reason to argue that betting systems don't work. Set the house edge aside then argue that this or that betting system doesn't work because of x, y or z, but not because of the house edge.

    If you sit there betting banker for every outcome then yes, where commission is taken I will agree the house edge will take your money over the long term for sure. But using a strong well thought out betting system, where the bettor doesn't wager on too many outcomes, there is no house edge, it's all in your minds!
     
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    The shrewd cat ain't never wager on the players side of the equation, hey hey.
     
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  3. Jae

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    Wow, you’re actually quite inspirational! I have a friend with a kid that was born with mental retardation, she loves him to death; but always talks about how she feels like his MR will prevent him from having a career. She’ll be ecstatic when I tell her there’s always a future in him writing about gambling and publishing books on the subject.

    One of your other posts confused me… as someone else who has started writing a bit about baccarat systems, I was baffled when I saw you toting a winning tie system. While I initially thought that statement alone would destroy any credibility you are trying to build, as I find it incredibly difficult to beat the game by betting on the best betting option it gives us, you went off and found a system that beats the game with the worst possible house advantage the game offers.

    After reading this post, I finally understand how you’re able to do that… it’s just simply that there’s no house advantage. It’s all in our minds, just a scare tactic the casino invented.

    As far as your writing goes, you’ve got what it takes to create click bait titles and then the audacity to try and justify those titles with a body of text.

    As far as math skills… nada.
     
  4. Bactz

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    I guess another avenue to explore would be to only bet for a few, directly after the banker total of 6. Then wait for the next appearance.
     
  5. Stephen Tabone

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    Aside from the fact that you hate me and are horrible towards disabled people which I think you will not get much support for, I couldn't make any sense of your long sentence above. Or maybe it's because I'm retarded, I just don't know.

    You clearly have no idea about casino games and are attacking one of the greatest betting system and strategy developers in the world. I work with data scientists notwithstanding. No doubt you'll argue they are all retarded too. If you want to engage try sticking to the topic instead of going on a rant and including silly insults. If not, try the bet selection site because the owner of it loves all that.
     
  6. Stephen Tabone

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    I'd prefer to pay the 5% of winnings if just a few outcomes and not all wagers were on the banker side. But I see your point about waiting after a banker win on 6 (or whatever number a casino uses) though often times banker outcomes with a 6 score are followed by more, sometimes they occur in phases of repeats. Thus the danger is when using negative progression.
     
  7. Bellringtoday

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    Which do you do more everyday write on gambling forums or suck dick?
     
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    That's uncalled for. It shows who you really are.
     
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    Sometimes the truth just hurts there big guy!
     
  10. Jae

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    Delusions of grandeur are quite strong with you, sir. Calling yourself the greatest definitely doesn’t qualify you as such. You’ve been peddling your snake oil on forums for years; and yet, no one ever talks about your systems or strategies. Except you of course, you are the only person who talks about YOU. If your words were worth their salt, people would be discussing your ideas—but simply Google yourself and you’ll see that your ideas are vague and constantly contradict each other and nobody is talking about them. People have been telling you that you are embarrassing yourself, and I’m inclined to agree.
     
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    DUDE chill take it easy relax have a drink do not worry come on man
     
  12. Stephen Tabone

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    Regardless of what you claim re my betting systems and strategies, they exist and if they didn't work there wouldn't be those who use them stating that they work. Thus clearly they work. You can use all the psychological insults you want -- and I've read them all before; nothing new -- notwithstanding they cannot negate the power of my betting systems and strategies.

    In and of themselves it's up to a player to determine the usefulness or otherwise of them and those opinions have nothing to do with your subjective hatred and attack against disabled people.

    My methods are rule-based logical strategies with stop losses and bet again triggers, money management and clever bet selections. To argue otherwise using petty insults just reinforces the value of my work and renders your position unsound, frivolous and malicious. If my betting systems and strategies were weak you would not be hating them so much.
     
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    If you were going to bet your life on one bet in the casino, I suppose it would be on Bank at Baccarat. Who cares about 5% commission if it's life or death. Over all, the Bank actually has an advantage as far as whether it is going to come up, or not.

    Following along with that, if all that matters is winning or losing the bet, and if again, it's just one bet - Bank.

    So along those lines, yes, the house edge doesn't matter.
     
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  14. Junket King

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    As somebody who has studied the game for many years, put aside bet selection and talk about something more pertinent to the game, your suggested STAKING STRATEGY.

    Come on let's have it, share your views and thoughts.
     

  15. Stephen Tabone

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    In what respect?...There are different kinds of betting systems and strategies built into them that suit different kinds of players. (some more complex than others) Do you mean a method to win over few played games or many games? If the former then do you want a flat betting or progression?
     
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  16. Bellringtoday

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    Unfucking real!!!!! Why the fuck would someone thst supposedly knows what this cat Stephen knows, not be gambling everyday and winning with his very own magic systems??????

    Please dont say covid19 cause you were spending a ton of time many forums long before covid.

    Please dont say to help people cuz we all know thats a fucking bitch ass lie!

    Tell the truth Stevie.
     
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  17. Jae

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    I’ve seen you claim that you don’t write the books to make a profit, understandable as system buyers make up a very small niche in the market. So I’m assuming that it’s a passion project? Or that you actually want to help people make money at the game?

    I’ll make it easy and rewarding for you. Since we are in the position to give ourselves grandiose titles: I’ll just say that I am “the most successful baccarat player in the world.” It’s probably debatable, I have read stories about whales that have one more than my lifetime bankroll in just a single session, but by this time next year I will have legitimately secured the largest lifetime score from baccarat, without a doubt. But as far as ratio of growth from starting bankroll, I am the most successful.

    Post your greatest achievement in system and strategy development, your holy grail if you will—the bullshit you are trying to peddle odd for $200 a pop. If your system really is a long-term verifiable winner and we can verify it here on this forum post, I will 1000% wire you $100,000 for your great contribution to the game of baccarat. I even have a few investors on here that can verify that I will follow through as I have sent and made over $34,000 for one member on this board.

    $100k in it for ya boss. That’s surely 100 times more money than you’ll ever make from your book. If you can’t deliver, then kindly go hustle people somewhere else as nobody here believes your bullshit.
     
  18. Stephen Tabone

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    It's a journey to better the last best betting system and as I've stated, there are different kinds, some more complex than others, and there are different kinds of players who prefer certain kinds. It's not one system suits all. Notwithstanding there are different gambling games thus different ways to play those games.

    If you're not interested which you're clearly not then leave it at that. Otherwise you clearly have a problem. I'm not here advertising. In fact I've just given away several free copies of one of my books thus your money mindedness makes no sense to me.

    I'm not interested in your money, not interested in knowing what you make or don't make from baccarat, who you know, or who you make money for etc etc. Heard it all before. I've met many people over 30 years frequenting casinos, I don't think you have anything new to offer, believe me, but you may amuse some no doubt. But good luck with whatever makes you feel as though you're a winner.
     
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  19. Stephen Tabone

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    I've written it before, will again; I have no control over costs of books, this is in the hands of my publishing agents. I get a 10 day window to offer new publications at 10 or 20 dollars to those who contact me, but after that I have no control over pricing.
     
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    But I’m totally interested in your systems. Your books clearly claim that your strategy overcomes the house edge. Yet, in this post you claim house edge is in our minds. The constant contradiction is baffling, does your method or methods overcome the house edge because they have an advantage or do you simply state that in the introduction of your book because it overcomes it since house edge is in our minds and just a scare tactic the casino invented?
     

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