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Roulette The Steve Hourmouzis....top 5?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by mr j, Oct 4, 2018.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Help me out with this. If you are not logged in at RF, you get Steve's Top 5 roulette systems pop up ad.

    From everything I have read (and I was attacked for) over the years, roulette computers and AP were NOT classified as systems. It was way too insulting to them. Okay, thats fine.

    So Scammer Steve Hourmouzis posted his CLICK BAIT ad. I investigated further.



    Here are his top 5 (in order) >>

    1) Roulette computers (well of course ;))

    2) Physics roulette system.

    3) Visual ballistics.

    4) Dealer signature.

    5) Bias analysis.

    So I see computers and AP and thats.....fine I suppose. Where are the ACTUAL systems/methods?
    Is it cool to say to Steve or Caleb.....Ha Ha, you ALSO use a system!!! If thats the definition you want to tout, I'll follow it (lol). Point being, its nothing MORE THAN CLICK BAIT in order to get the NEWER members to click on and PURCHASE something. SALES!!!!

    Ken
     
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    bump
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

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    reading Caleb`s posts lately I am not surprised that systems were involved . What caught my attention when Caleb suggested 3 - 12 numbers preferably 3 - 7 numbers .

    I presume they are all contiguous numbers without any clicks between them.

    Wheel watcher Kaisan of Germany is using 9 numbers. $ 5 chips on each number . Bankroll $ 2 ,000.-- or 2 % of his master bankroll.

    I have no idea about his number selection but it appears to be a unique number with four on each side . He does use a note
    pad walking around the table . ( You tube )
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

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    You Tube

    Christian Kaisan Roulette player , Wiesbaden Casino
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I'll tell you the truth about VB these days. We don't really run progressions like people think. The reason is our goal is to win as much as possible while staying discrete. This means getting as much money on the table as possible without drawing heat and when we feel we have the best spins possible. Sometimes this already puts you at the table max, sometimes well under.

    Wheel bias is played a bit differently. Sometimes you're trying to negotiate higher table limits while trying to pull of the ultimate caper, other times you're in it just to milk a project over an extended period of months or years.
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    In VB the number of numbers depends on the casino, and the attention that you receive at the table. If I had my way then I'd bet a 12 to 13 n wide arc of the wheel. Unfortunately that draws a lot of attention. Sometimes you have just passively bet a broken partial section to keep the play looking plausible and normal.
     
  7. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    but would you consider 2-5 systems?

    Ken
     
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    I suppose you can call them systems. I consider them to be more like a method, but I don't really care either way whether or not someone says system, strategy or method. Russell Bernhardt considered tracking for biased wheels to be a system. And I suppose because of the methodical way in which we move to set up plays you could claim that we are playing an AP type of system. An old business associated used to say what we did was apply our evil magic. In the end though I don't really care. My favorite description is to simply say that I specialize in pulling off good "capers".

    I do believe that there's no way to beat the random game of roulette with a system, but there's a way to beat the wheel with one. Really that's what we both do, we attempt to exploit the wheel rather than the random game.
     
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    [​IMG]
    Read the top line of the book. "The System That's Won More Than..."
     
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    mr j Well-Known Member

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    I own the book.
     
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    Oh the stories I could tell you about various people in that book.
     
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    This guy had the great idea to sell ev+ system and sell the dream that it will be easy to make money.

    But truth is that, as everything, you'll have to be dedicated to this if you want to perform. I am still amazed to see what human brain had produced.

    @caleb can we still buy that book online?
     
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    Amazon has everything, do a search for it.

    Ken
     
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    Yea sorry, no excuse... i even could have asked Google Assistant.
     
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    Guessing that book is a dud because it’s a negative expecatation game.

    Some asshole who realized selling a book was more profitable
     
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    i don't know what there 's inside, i thought it was about biased wheels.

    There's a part of a book i own called "Le Défi" from H.Arslanian was using kind of old vb with a HP41 calculator, using the decceleration of the ball and wheel speed, the calculator gives a fraction that tells you if you have to bet Tier or 0 neighbours. Great book!
    By the way, at that time i found a virtual HP41 calculator online...
     

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