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Baccarat The way Baccarat should be approached

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Craps, May 9, 2019.

  1. Craps

    Craps Active Member

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    When you play Baccarat there are 2 worlds that you have to be in. The real world or the Baccarat world. The real world is about Math. Every hand is random and individual and one have to deal with commission. If you stay in the real world, you will play right into the wrath of the Casinos. If you flat bet, you need to win more than 50% of your bets. You get grinded away and that is what the Casinos is hoping for. You are most likely to go against trends because you don't believe there are trends in the real world. You will not stop for a break while losing because in the real world every hand is random and individual.

    Whereas in the Baccarat world there are full of fallacies. There are trends. ( actually random creates trends ). There are overdues. There are patterns. Although these are not REAL but hey, what harm can they bring? If you follow trends, you can win as much as the trend permits you. The worse is you only lose one bet. The problem is people kept looking at hands and patterns that cause them to lose and STILL they are looking at them later on in the shoe. After a loss people will try to "manufacture" a trend by looking at previous hands.

    Remember "DID NOT WIN is BETTER TO LOSE" so, don't manufacture trends. When trends comes , they are obvious.
     
  2. Junket King

    Junket King Active Member

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    This part was good

    Whereas in the Baccarat world there are full of fallacies. There are trends. ( actually random creates trends ). There are overdues. There are patterns. Although these are not REAL but hey, what harm can they bring? If you follow trends, you can win as much as the trend permits you. The worse is you only lose one bet. The problem is people kept looking at hands and patterns that cause them to lose and STILL they are looking at them later on in the shoe. After a loss people will try to "manufacture" a trend by looking at previous hands.

    Remember "DID NOT WIN is BETTER TO LOSE" so, don't manufacture trends. When trends comes , they are obvious.[/QUOTE]

    This is a fallacy.

    For trend players, do tell, how many hands constitutes a trend??

    I've asked this over and over, nobody is willing to answer!!

    2 by 2 by 2 by 2 is a trend, when did you notice them? When did you make your move?

    Chops are a trend, streaks are a trend. How many hands are shown before you say "oh there is a trend" I will follow?

    Take any number of hands that constitutes a trend, 'any', then take a set of binary tables, you will soon notice that there are more ways for 'any' trend to NOT continue, than to continue, or did you only make a single independent non-correlated 50-50 bet? Unless you are physic and were on the trend after the first hand.
     
  3. Craps

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    This is a fallacy.

    For trend players, do tell, how many hands constitutes a trend??

    I've asked this over and over, nobody is willing to answer!!

    2 by 2 by 2 by 2 is a trend, when did you notice them? When did you make your move?

    Chops are a trend, streaks are a trend. How many hands are shown before you say "oh there is a trend" I will follow?

    Take any number of hands that constitutes a trend, 'any', then take a set of binary tables, you will soon notice that there are more ways for 'any' trend to NOT continue, than to continue, or did you only make a single independent non-correlated 50-50 bet? Unless you are physic and were on the trend after the first hand.[/QUOTE]


    There is no definite answer when you think a trend is happening. There should be executed with a little bit of anticipation. Ever notice those who got on the trend early are the biggest winners. They will bet until they lose a hand whereas those who were late will just flat bet. Many will remain on the sidelines cos ' they did not get in earlier in the trend.
    Its all in the charting. Charting is skill. There are infinite ways to chart and being able to notice what is working for a particular shoe is SKILL.
     
  4. Junket King

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    No definite answer!!!! Hmmmm, so it's all guess work, win some and lose some?

    Yet you mention "early trend", or do you mean luck? People can get lucky on occasions, but it won't make them long term winners.

    I know all about charting, I call them templates, I've recorded shoes using 1 template, 7 or 8 column and tracked (charted) 3 other templates within the column of 7 or 8. Even now, I use columns of 7, but still use a columns of 6 inside the column of 7 by merely using underlines. Yes I also play rows and columns.

    I totally disagree about trending via columns, most Chinese players use the Bead road and follow a consecutive row of Banks for example. The problem with that way of thinking, is that once you notice something, such as,

    XXXXXXX
    BBBBBB < jump on the Bank
    XXXXXX
    XXXXXX
    XXXXXX
    XXXXXX

    it is less likely to continue and I state based on considerable experience. Sure it can happen that Row 2 continues spewing out B until the end of the shoe, but IMO it won't, but there exists smarter ways to play.

    Take it easy, no malice intended.
     
  5. Jimske

    Jimske Active Member Founding Member

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    Actually that's an easy one. Anything that happens twice is a trend. So could be as simple as a few decisions or many decisions. Could be side independent or both sides. There's lots to look at. There's only 2 things that can happen when you bet a trend; you win or lose. But betting and MM going to be key just as in more static games.

    J
     
  6. Junket King

    Junket King Active Member

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    In over 10 years of asking that question, you are the first to offer an answer, well done, not that I agree necessarily.
     

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