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Baccarat TI Count

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Eric Michaels, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. Eric Michaels

    Eric Michaels New Member

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    I have played Bac for a long time. Actually do pretty well with it. This past week took $2500 to $75000 then lost half back on stupid huge wagers.

    I see a lot of people talk about TI Count.

    What is it?

    How do you keep track?

    Thanks in advance. Would like to start tracking it to add to my arsenal of strategy.
     
  2. Xytras

    Xytras New Member

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    I believe it tracks the strength of opposites vs repeats. Where the every opposite decision counts as “+” and every repeat as a “-“ .

    Then if take into account the most recent history, it should give you an idea in what direction the shoe is headed. As in if let’s say your current count is +5 from the last 5-10 hands it’s obvious that opposites dominate the current flow
     
  3. Eric Michaels

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    so if the shoe starts at BBPBPP your TI count is +1? What should the count be where you have a higher probability of hitting?
     
  4. Xytras

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    Right off the bat, I personally don’t use it but I know a number of fellow gamblers who do. If TI count hovers around 0 (-2 to +2), the shoe is neutral which suggests a strong OTBL bias (a shoe or a section of it is dominated by doubles with random singles and/or treys)

    However if it goes beyond-2, +2 in either direction that when a stronger opposites/repeats biases develop so that should be reflected on your bet selection. Just make sure that most recent history takes priority over the count of the entire sure because if you don’t, you’ll get caught “wrong footed” as the IT count may fluctuate very heavily for the duration of a shoe
     
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    That’s correct +1. The question therein would be if you’re at +5 then obviously there’s a chop. But will it stay? A lot of times players will play these patterns only to have it shift.

    I tend to weight how things go. As you know 1IAR (basically a chop) happens 50% of the time. The other 50% is a streak of some fashion.

    So in your example, you have 2 chops (PBP) and 2 streaks (BB and PP) so the shoe thus far to me is neutral. And of course this is a long run setting. In the short turn a shoe can do anything so any counts could just be a “false positive”.
     
  6. Eric Michaels

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    i appreciate it. Sounds like it may throw me off from what I already look at and that I already have a decent win %. Thought maybe it would help find some more opportunities.

    I am seeing a lot of shoes where winning 7 jumps. If I see it two times in a row,then when it comes up again I go opposite (so player 7 wins, next hand I go bank).
     
  7. Junket King

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    $2500 ~ $75,000 (WTF)

    That is like me going to a casino, winning £5 pounds ($10), then coming on the forum, saying "I had a good week", I won between £1 ~ £250,000. If you won anywhere in the region of $75k, you wouldn't be here asking questions, in fact probably not here at all, keep it real mat8, we're all strangers here, no need to impress ;)
     
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  8. ehtelgaeb

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    Hey Johno! I thought you had disappeared. Where ya been?
     
  9. Junket King

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    Hiya ehtelgaeb been avoiding the forums, thought I would check in and catch up with some BS.
     
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    How did you play to get 37,500?
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

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    This cat with his $ 75, 000.-- claim is a loser and some day will be broke forever .
     
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  13. Eric Michaels

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    think what you want, but I don't need to prove it to anyone. I know what I did. Maybe you don't play the dragon bonus, but when you start hitting 30-1's, 10-1's, 6-1's, with $250 - $500 on, you can grow a bank roll rapidly. Yes, a sidebet is mainly luck, but as they say it's a bonus to the banker/player win.

    I watch a lot of videos from various different people online. I have my own style/strategy. I hear a lot about TI count and simply wanted to know more about it to see if it could give me more of an edge.

    Nathan Detroit, I see you are a "Founding Member" on this forum. You should be the last person calling someone a liar and a loser you AF.
     
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  14. Eric Michaels

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    Start with $100 - $250 units. As the roll gets bigger it then goes to $500 - $1000 units. The biggest reason it grew so quick was the dragon bet. A few 30-1's with 200 and 300 on can jolt your bank roll to the upside very rapidly. Then you can start taking bigger chances and if you have the right strategy (I am a pattern player), it works out. My issue is the streaks, I don't follow them and that is what kills me. I am getting better with the streaks though.
     

  15. Eric Michaels

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    Definitely not trying to impress. Was illustrating how when you jump off your strategy and discipline things can rapidly fall. So you are saying if you made X amount of dollars you wouldn't be here in the forum? That is just plain dumb. I am teachable and always learning. That's how I am successful at the game. It also helps to make some of the time go by and not constantly watching hands. The longer u stay in a shoe, the chances of losing are higher. I have the payouts to prove my winnings but it's not about that. It's about winning, and trying to keep the winnings. Thought people here could give insight on the TI count not f'ing bash because they are tired of losing. I am assuming you are losing because you said if you are winning, you wouldn't be on the forum. Just shows your stupidity.
     
  16. Jimske

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    Anything can happen but IF it does (big IF) it's gonna be like hitting the lottery. With a $2500.00 bank you only got 25 units - less as you are betting up to $250. So realistically say 15- 20 units. That is WAY under bankrolled to expect to do more than hit and run if you get a few lucky patterns. So if you are winning long term you likely are mostly doing that hit and run style. If not you're losing. Regular players know this so that's why you're getting a lot of negative response.

    Congrats on a lucky win. Now you got 37k to create a more practical bankroll. Divide that by 500 units lifetime bankroll and you can have a $100 base bet. See what you can do with that for a couple thousand shoes.

    J
     
  17. Junket King

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    Look at the spread LOL. Had you typed $2500 ~ $5000, OR at a stretch $50,000 ~ $75,000 it may have appeared less fanciful, yet unbelievable.

    It's just a pissing up the wall contest with strangers. As for the side-bet baloney, they pay 30:1 for a reason, a typical gambler will hoot and holler, when they get lucky, but conveniently forget all those hands, sessions when it doesn't come in, like they never played them, despite betting $250 ~ $500 each attempt (fuck me) LOL.

    Like I say, get real and leave the bullshit for the missus, you're dealing with veteran players here who have frequented gaming tables for decades and I've never seen any side-bet player ahead in the game in the long term, but seen many get excited when it does come in, then they drip feed it back.
     
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