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Baccarat To All The Martingale Users Out There...

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jon Wick, Nov 24, 2020.

  1. Jon Wick

    Jon Wick Member

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    I have a question for all the Martingale users out there. What are good bet selection methods for a 3 step and 4 step martingale? I've heard it all before about martingale is a sure way to lose but I know with a good bet selection and a hit and run mentality you can come out ahead. TIA

    Mr. JonnWick
     
  2. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

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    Johnwick,

    U dont answer my question in your another thread. I think your previous thread still related with martingale

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/whats-your-bet-selection-method-and-money-management.19236/

    Hope u can answer. Thanks
     
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  3. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

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    @Jon Wick

    Thanks for your explanation in your another thread.

    You say so far using 5 step martingale still get positive result. But why here you ask about bet selection for 3 or 4 step martingale ?

    Dont missunderstand. I dont say you're lying about your answer in another thread. I think if i am in your position if i can make a positive result in the long term, i will stick on my method.

    Like quote "Dont change the winning team" :)

    Thanks
     
  4. Jon Wick

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    I just want to explore if there are lesser steps and have the same results that I'm having now with taking less risk so the recoup of the bust won't take as long to get back. There is nothing wrong with wanting to take lesser risk trying to achieve big results right?
     
  5. Ordinary_people

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    Yes, you're right. About BS for martingale sometimes we can just do random. Just ever try very few hand. Sometimes win, sometimes bust.

    Will watch this thread too. Hope we can get some positive feedback.

    Thanks and have a nice day
     
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  6. Rustyshackleford

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    the martindale will always and forever lose
    dont do the martindale!
    dont you wish you had my secret sauce??
     
  7. Joey Torres

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    Hi Jon,

    Did you search the post of Junket King. How to turn 75 to 5250 for 4 step martingale.

    I'm not using it, so I can't vouch if that is good or not.

    Thanks,
     

  8. CarloDarlo

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    OK, I'll bite on this. I used not "long" ago. 4 step - 5 step marty and columnized the results 5col and 7col. Randomly each visit to make the death pattern "more" random. Combined with Hit and Run. It made the Death Pattern more "elusive". If you have the "belief" It helped me greatly to only get on Choppy shoes. I found streaky shoes you can get your entire columns filled with 1 results and if it swings the other way you get rinsed.

    example

    b,p,b,b,b,p,p,p,b,p

    B P -Bet W. Wait for new column/ leave mini break within trip. Trying to avoid Death Pattern
    P P
    B P
    B B
    B P

    I would do this Hit and Run 5u a trip. Ended up making over 103u on 5 step marty before bust. I still use this strategy occasionally haven't hit my 2nd bust as of yet.
     
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  9. Joey Torres

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    Hi CarloDarlo,

    I'm not getting this. Can you elaborate on how you are playing this method?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  10. CarloDarlo

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    Lets say you walk up to a shoe and you see this. b,b,p,p,b

    I would do this on my scorecard

    B
    B
    P
    P
    B

    Lets say the next hand is P for example sake.

    B P (I would be betting for P here. This is a win)
    B
    P
    P
    B

    Use whatever MM if you keep losing down the line. I would get a win and ghost out of there. Go eat some food and then head back. I would play only what I deemed a "Choppy" shoe in the middle of a choppy area of the shoe to prevent fading a streak.

    It's my belief go with what the shoe is giving you not against it. Even though its all 50/50 random blah blah long term. It helps me win so I don't really care too much about the "math" at this point.

    But do keep in mind you can out the gate get nabbed the just the nature of using something such as this. So I prepare myself for battle with a couple of options in case of recoup.

    This works well if you are the hit and run type player happy with 1-5u a day and have a good bankroll to make 1-5u worth while.
     
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  11. Nathan Detroit

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    With a proper MM system a player can never m ever lose a bankroll.
     
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  12. CarloDarlo

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    Honest to god. Most cats biggest enemy is themselves. This game is like going to war against the casino and yourself.
     
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  13. Craps

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    Flat betting, Martingale or any other progression still faces the same ODDS. Moreover, 2 people playing with the same approach will get 2 different results. However, there is a big difference in choosing whether to use a progression or not.
    If you use Martingale, its either win your target units and quit or bust and quit. Very easy to follow this discipline. Winning is a habit using Martingale although those wins are fractional in relation to bankroll.
    Whereas if you use Flat Betting, it's tough to control your emotions. Just ask yourself HOW MANY FLAT BETTORS ACTUALLY FLAT BET THROUGHOUT ITS ENTIRETY? The blame game like dealers, cocktail waitress, floorperson, follow bettors at same table will come into play.

    Overall speaking, one has to use probability ( Martingale ) lots of charting ( play less ) and HIT & Run in order to profit from the casinos.
    Use the Terrorist mentality. They do small and successful damages because they fight like a coward. Going head to head battle with the casino is suicide.
     
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  14. Zhang Wei

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    Once you are able to play endless games, makes no difference whether hit and run or bet almost every hand.
     

  15. Craps

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    Mathematically speaking, yes. Fallacy wise, no.
    Try playing PPP non stop. BBB will kill it. Now try playing PPP selectively and only win once and done.
    Test it and you will know why.
    Science and Religion. Which one is true?
     

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