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The thing about deploy defensive measure with the labby, spiltting big number and adding figures to account for vig just increases the number of winning wager you gotta capture to complete a string. And for me all this doues is increase the aggravation factor what come with having to cpature ever more winnings wager to complete a string, hey hey!

 

I agree...
But it is an almost guaranteed slow grind recovery , and I know you are a master grinder lol

 

This is how I have been playing past few weeks, on a nice upswing but ran into some painful shoes that I was able to recover but bets too high for my taste..so looking for alternate MMs and Fathead provided a nice one.

So.replayed my shoe using GLC labby explanation and Fatheads stops,.makes the shoe playable again...biggest bet 4 units Instead of multiple back to back 19+ units bets that needed to win for recovery etc...lowest -2 instead of -114


Posted by GLC of rouletteforum and dumbed down so I could understand it...
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"So, we have no labby line. We bet 1 unit. If we win, we have 1 unit profit. If we lose, now we write that unit down and bet the 1st and last number. In this case that's only 1 number. If we win, we're recovered. Another win results in another unit of profit.

If we happen to lose two times in a row, we now have a line like this 1 1 and will bet the sum of the 1st and the last, or two units. A loss and we have 1 1 2 and can repeat until we clear the line.

Anytime we clear the line, we are in a position to make some profit on a win.

This is the closest we can get to the 33.4% concept.

It's not a bad way to play. It can still get a little hairy so you do need some parameters.

GLC"

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W 1 +1
L 1 0
L 1 -1
W 2 +1

W 1 +2
L 1 +1
L 1 0
W 2 +2
L 1 +1
L 1 0

W 2 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
L 1 +4
W 1 +5
L 1 +4

L 1 +3
L 2 +1 pause
W vwin
W vwin
W 3 +4

L 1 +3
L 2 +1
W 3 +4
L 1 +3
L 2 +1
L 3 -2 pause
L

W
L
L
W
L
L

L
L
L
L
L
L

W
L
W
L
L
W vwin

W vwin
W 4 +2
W 3 +5
W 1 +6
L 1 +5

 

One of my best shoes of the week finished +9 using GLC labby, I will replay it using fatheads pauses (MM)

23W 18L

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L
W
L
W
W

W
L
L
W
W
W
L

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L
L
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L
L
W

L
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W
L
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L

L
W
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Fatheads MM attempt

W 1
L 0
W 1
L 0
W 1
W 2

W 3
L 2
L 1
W 2
W 3
W 4
L 3

W 4
L 3
L 2
W 3
L 2
L 1
W 2

L 1
W 2
W 3
L 2
L 1
L 0 pause

L
W virtual win
W virtual win
W 1
W 2
W 3
W 4
W 5
L 4
L 3
W 4
W 5
L 4
L 3
W +4

 

GLC Labby + Fatheads MM on one of my best shoes of the week, original played GLC labby only and finished +9


W 1 +1
L 1 E
W 1 +1
L 1 E
W 1 +1
W 1 +2

W 1 +3
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
W 2 +3
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
L 1 +4

W 1 +5
L 1 +4
L 1 +3
W 2 +5
L 1 +4
L 1 +3
W 2 +5

L 1 +4
W 1 +5
W 1 +6
L 1 +5
L 1 +4
L 2 +2 pause

L
W virtual win
W virtual win
W 3 +5
W 1 +6
W 1 +7
W 1+8
W 1 +9
L 1 +8
L 1 +7
W 2 +9
W 1 +10
L 1 +9
L 1+8
W 2 +10

 

JacobBlaze, the money management is not perfect (as I mentioned) but it has saved me from disaster several times in the past. It can be also be frustrating sometimes. I will demonstrate below.

Say you have this sequence.

W
L
L
W
W
L
L
L <pause>
W
L
W
L
W
L
W
L
W

A long Win / Loss chop sequence is very helpful in a negative progression (it would clear your labby string eventually) but instead you are sitting on sidelines waiting on a re-entry point. I have sat out many of these but things did work out in the end.

Also, as all bettors should find out with experience, the cards / dice / wheel will always come up with a way to make you to lose every bet. In this case...

L -1
L -2
L -3 <pause>
W
W
L -4 <pause>
W
W
L -5
L -6 <pause>
W
W
L -7
L -8 <pause>
W
W
L -9
L -10 <pause>

If you had played this sequence straight with no pauses you would have been fine. Instead you lost 10 in a row. I have never experienced this but the potential is there.

If you decide to try this let me know how it goes.

 

Yeah I see that after further testing, and my bet selection switches sides naturally after 3 losses in a row, which seems to pick up the 4th and 5th win a lot but then puts me in loss mode again, lol . I need those possible wins for my labby to recover.. thanks for the idea though I will use it when playing another bet selection.

I will flat bet my current selection and see how it goes for a few shoes, I might open a new thread to post results. Yesterday i played 5 shoes (bet every hand once I started betting) and ended up losing 4.2 units overall (bad streak on the end lost 9 in a row my last shoe and last 9 hands)

I was playing all shoe do or die (kinda hard) this casinos.shoes are only between 50 to 60 hands because they cut two decks back. But they give 1.45% back in "rolling" commmision so I got 1.624 units back in commission, so my total loss was reduced to only -2.576 units.



I tracked the shoe so also got the bet banker only results too ill post that and maybe the whole w/l sequence..or just my scorecards if I get too lazy, in a new thread...

Anyway thanks for your input and your ideas.

 

I don't have the "Like" button either, nor do I have an ability to send Private Messages to anyone. Not certain, but I think we have to be members for X number of posts or X number of months before those features are available to us.