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Roulette Trend following system for roulette

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by baidane, Jul 1, 2019.

  1. baidane

    baidane New Member

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    Hello guys,
    because I'm new in this forum, I will tel yo something about us.
    We are team from professional traders and financial advisors, and before few months we decide to spend some time in this industry.
    We had create a mathematically based strategy for trend following the roulette game.
    You may heard that every hedge fund manager and the best professional traders in this world can go in the casino and earn money from them. This is because of the mathematics.
    In roulette game, there is a randomness, and if there is a randomness somewhere, there is theory of chaos.
    The only mathematical way to measure the chaos rules is following the trends and recognizing the patterns. You will be surprised how much money you can generate after you inspect the game.
    By this system you have actual information for the trends in front of your eyes.
    We also use simple moving averages in the charts for better recognizing uptrend, downtrend and the ranging moments.
    We already test the system with real accounts and the results are awesome.
    The systems reduce the chance for loosing from 51,4% to 30% if the player is concentrated and make his bets clever.
    Combination with your proven strategies will give's you tons of opportunities
    If you are interested, write here. For us, there will be a pleasure to discuss your questions.
     

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  2. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    Show me your certified trading track record. Thanks.
     
  3. baidane

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    Blago,
    this is my favorite from your posts (no matter the fact that they are 90% hates):
    "The problem is noone can predict the beginning of a trend and the end of it. And the majority of the time, the market is in a range.(70% of the time)."
    Give me your email and I will send you part of the system for testing. There is always trend in roulette! If the trend is not on the colours, there is trend on the dozens, rows or sectors.
    I truly don't believe that there is a "Holly Grail". But of course there are some tools that can help you for taking the right decisions.
     
  4. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    There is no trend in Roulette because outcomes are independent events. Afterwards, you can claim: Look zero sector is trending/hot, it hit 8 times in a row, but at the 9th attempt it can suddenly stop hitting like it can continue for 1 or more spins, you don't know, unless you are a mindfreak.

    You claim you are a professional investor so I ask you to show me your track record, I don't care about your roulette systems, thanks.
     
  5. baidane

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    There is no trend for you, because in the table, there is only flat information. The randomness create chaos. If there is a chaos, there is trend and patterns. And if the software who is manipulating the roulette game escapes from the trend somewhere, it immediately create trend in other place.
    For example: The trend is on red and black colors, after few spins the software change the trend and send it to the dozens, or sectors, or columns.
    I will send trial version to everyone who is interested in the system.
    For your question about the trading. Sorry but you will never receive my portfolio statistics. I risk my own money, i pay my taxes, and I don't need to proof anything to anyone.
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

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    This cat is a typical on line player .Disregard his rubbish .





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  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    amateur sophistry/

    If you do this you will get that. Unfortunately randomness never cooperates the way you want it to when you want it to. I suppose you were going to mention that next?
     
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  8. baidane

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    Of course that I am online player. And that's my advantage. Welcome to the new world
    Do you believe that the software mounted in the real table, can't calculate the blowing power of the air blowers that makes the ball spins, and the number of the wheel spins to hit the right number? Sorry but this is not the true.
    The ball hit the number with the lowest bets every time. And sometimes it gives you little rewards.
    And for sure you have advantage when you are online. The casinos use the same software, but you are with more than 50 persons on this table.
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

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    This topic shall also whither on the vine . Nice try.





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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here, I'll kill it dead. Take any constant bet selection method. Example, only select red. You could only select black too. You could jump between red or black based on a constant reason. No matter what you do, use very few reasons to make bet selections. Now this process of making selections is independent of how much you bet. You are looking, hunting, for when your selections go into a phase of working very well in your favor. There are three primary conditions for the quality of results from your bet selection method. They are something along the lines of working very good, acting kind of moderate without any dominant feature, and working very bad as a bankroll killer. Now you can have the red/black grouping killing you while the odd/even grouping goes on working out great to your advantage. This is the nature of randomness. You need a consistent bet selection method because it reveals the three phases in a more continuing duration, (at times.) Yes, the quality of the phases as far as duration also vary during different gambling sessions. It really comes down to knowing the conditions you must endure in order to get to the conditions you really like. If you can do that then you can beat the casino. If you can't master that skill then good luck with following trends blindly.

    Now the thread is dead.
     
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    I'm not sure that you are truly right, my friend. This thread was just born, and will be here long time from now.
    And what about the trend following system? It is tested, and it's just work. So simple. This system will be used, because it gives you nothing more than knowledge. And in this game,like everything in our world, the knowledge is the advantage.
    But you are absolutely right for one thing. If you are using your benefits to recognize only the black and red numbers, you may reach 65-70% right decisions, but you'll be still loosing in long term. There is little difference, if you use your benefits to recognize the columns and the dozens. With 1:3 bet and more than 50% correct decisions, your account will grow. But that's not the interesting thing too.
    What happens if you combine your knowledge, and use the trending system for recognizing the colors, the dozens, and the columns at the same time? Then you have bet 3/36 at worst scenario or 2/36 in the best. Lets take in the calculations 3/36. This mean that you need to be wrong 12 times to loose some money. For me, this is absolutely impossible, because my average win is after 4 spins, but this is just because I know how to read the charts. If you win 2 of this 12 bets, your winning % is 16,667% and because I don't believe in words, I attach the average data from 50 simulations. The simulator is included in the strategy, and you can test all of your ideas. Also there is included Performance Analyzer which measures your predictions, and use random numbers, based on your real predicting percentage, to fill the other cells. With this tool you can see how your strategy will escalate after number of bets. And of course there is real bet data included, which collect the data from your real bets and makes you a statistical charts for after session analyzing.
    I will repeat again, my friends. This is not system for rubbing the roulette. This is very powerful supporting system, which gives you knowledge.
    Thank you, guys for the good discussion here.
     

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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    My method is not only tested but it is proven too. I charged a person only $1,000 to teach him my already proven method. It was the most fun I ever had online discussing Roulette. It took 2 hours per day for 60 days straight. It took the first month just to teach character recognition for randomness so that he could read randomness the way that I built the construct. I added the effectiveness states and the virtual bets and he proved my system for me. He won at a take home rate on average of the next 30 days at 66% where the math should have been 47%. Anyone that knows me on the internet knows that I "flogged" double dozen bets, 24 - 26 numbers at a time, for over 8 years. I dropped that for a reason. The same goes for just betting on 12 numbers at a time. The results on win rates and take home are the same. It's too volatile. So I went back to Even Chance bets about 2.5 years ago or so.

    I would not be interested in your software and still secret construct for reading and dealing with trends when I have perfected my own over the past 14 years. Here is my work. This is the teaching and practice software that I developed to prove my methods.

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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Now if you are suggesting some kind of combined selection where you only bet on say the red high numbers or another combo bet like the two columns that contain 14 of the 18 red numbers with 10 black numbers thrown in for good luck then I have researched that too. It's time consuming and does not allow much room for reading the effectiveness states. But here is an example of using three combinations at once. My software allows you to play combo bets too. These are the red/even/high numbers in this example:

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    Since this thread has not died yet... Almost all mathBoyz and frequentest oriented probability experts throughout the gambling forum world will all agree that depending on trends to make bet selections is nothing more than gambler's fallacy. And this is the funny part too. They are right. If you depend on any assumption that something is due because of what has already occurred then you are in for disappointment.

    If on the other hand you know that past events can't predict future outcomes then does that also mean that trends are useless for anything other than prediction of future events? I'm suggesting that trends are highly useful as a method to expose real outcomes. Even though a trend has no predictable capacity to it, it still has an individual lifespan. If you see medium sized trend samples all gathering together as a swarm, you could bet that these swarms will continue. If they don't you lose one or two bets. But if the characteristic swarms all over the place for awhile then you will win several more than you lose while the swarms hold up. If you know that winning from 3 to 7 prime bet units per session makes you a highly successful gambler then using unpredictable coincidences like meaningless trend formations while the method is in a highly working state is in fact worth the trouble. It just comes down to managing the session. The casino can't stop trend swarm formations from gathering together at strong favorable moments. It just takes experience hitting the good spots. The trends themselves are meaningless coincidences. Your action taken while using them is the real factor that matters. There are times when everything looks great and you lose all your first bet entry tries anyway. It's not magic, or the curse of probability, or the house's advantage. It's just the real nature of randomness. You can, if you get real smart, take advantage of when guessing on trends are in a state of working great for you. But you can't expect them to work well for you all the time. So don't bet big on worthless sections of a session. The casino does not have a gun pointed at your head to make bets. Don't bet stupid.
     
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    Greetings for the wonderful work done. It is obvious that it has been working for years to achieve it.
    You have wonderful software, but very complicated. I am sure that if your software was so great, you would invest some money to improve it and make it more user friendly.
    Sorry this is not personal, but it really sounds unserious that for 14 years, this software had only 2 users. And this is proven? From who? From you, and the another user?
    When we create our trendfinder, i went to the nearest casino, and i took three people from them. The first three guys, which I saw. They was absolutely idiots. I showed them the idea, I explained how it worked and left them at the computers in our office. They made money. And three of them!!!
    The worst in the whole situation is that our system costs 10 times cheaper than yours - 160 euro.
    And it's easy, and it's working.
    All of you, guys understand math. If you have some difficult math problem , you don't use the most complicated formula in the universe to resolve it, right? There is always simple way
     
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    You are a dick. And since you are giving the impression of being intelligent, well that makes you a dick head. It does not cost me a dime to improve my software. It works exactly as it is desired to work. I deliberately made it impossible to cut and paste. As far as one student goes. I'm not in the selling business. Making $8.33 per hour is not a business. And as far as proof goes, I wanted to prove to myself that it can be taught. I'm not trying to sell like your are. Don't you know that a working method is worth millions? I particularly love this the best: "When we create our trendfinder"... I get this anyway. "We" is that multi-faceted guy, Glen from BS land. I'm done feeding the troll.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Regarding cut and paste in my software. I would email back and forth several sessions at a time in two hours. The software compiles all the sessions with their results. The way to get it out of the software is to save all the compiled sessions as a single text file. I then made the student send it to me, no more than 1 minute time. There is no time to change the results. And I have the emails that describe the sessions as they occurred along the way. I was interested in real research and truth. So there is one person trained by me, using software that is configured for live play in real brick and mortar casinos using charts that are configured exactly like the charts in the practice and training software. Playing charts fit on index cards. All this was done so that the student knew I was interested in getting to the truth. That just happens to be important to me.
     
  18. Sharptracker

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    Let me get pop corn, it is too funny to see 2 roulette champion argue to know who can guess better...
     
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    I lose for sure. You should try San Francisco Poop Corn. I expect to lose every time I play. It wouldn't be random if my guesses didn't lose. They even lose in the long run about 54% of the times. But I know when to bet big and you don't. I've always loved that about you. For some crazy reason you gamble. And just having you around to guide people is amusing also. Keep up the command post. Guard the ramparts. Thanks for being so smart.
     
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    You don't have any idea about what i'm doing at roulette... but be sure that i don't need to sell any bs software to make money in order to give everything to the cashier and i also don't need to borrow money to people...

    ()closed... keep going, i didn't finish my pop corn mate...
     
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