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Roulette Try this game! Think how to win!

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by beat-the-wheel, Mar 29, 2015.

  1. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    If I put 10 BLACK, and ONE RED ping pong balls into a bag, and I will pick out a ball without looking, and then replaced that ball INTO THE BAG, ..

    u may bet any way u like...

    1black=lose 1point.
    1red=win 1 point.

    HOW U GOING TO BET TO WIN...CONSTANTLY!?
     
  2. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    OOPS!OOPS!OOPS!
    VERY SORRY...

    1black= win 1point.
    1red=lose 10 point.

    THERE'S NO EDIT BUTTON HERE,
    SORRY!
     
  3. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.

    There are 10 BLACK, and ONE RED ping pong balls into a bag,
    and I will pick out a ball without looking, and then replaced that ball INTO THE BAG, ..

    I will take out the ball,
    and put back the ball into the bag,
    whether u bet or not,
    and repeat again, and again.

    u MAY bet BLACK ONLY,
    U CANNOT BET RED.

    AND U CAN CHOOSE NOT TO BET ...

    IF......

    black= you win 1point.
    red= you lose 10 point.

    u may bet any way u like...



    HOW U GOING TO BET TO WIN...CONSTANTLY!?
     
  4. Rudy

    Rudy Member Lineage to Founders

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    Max bet on black only when black hits if I can post bet, If not no bet look for a better game.
     
  5. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Rudy,
    be specific, please...
     
  6. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Since there 10BLACK and ONE red balls in the bag.
    [ BLACK=+1, and RED=-10]
    and u may ONLY BET BLACK....

    The probability=
    in next 10 bet,
    there may
    1] 10 BLACK in a row, [best possible]
    2] 10 RED in a row! [worst possible ]
    3] others permutation....

    BUT!

    [presume flatbet]

    If there 10 BLACK in row,
    and then ONE RED hit, u lose ALL your previous profit...!

    If u win 10 Blacks in row, then 2 RED hit, U lose -10 !
    [since BLACK=+1, and RED=-10]

    What if RED strike 3,4,5,...time in next 10 bet?!
    U lose your shirt, and underwear too.... hahahaaa.

    Since we cant foresee, or predict future,
    HOW are u going to bet and still win...albeit constantly???

    This is why I always say,
    all system will lose eventually,
    because of some specific streaks of LOSSES hit badly.
     
  7. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Only those who knows HOW to avoid streaks of losses,
    may win constantly, BUT they may also lose now, and then!!!
    Because sometime the bad probability become too vicious for u.

    EDGE, is not the issue,
    because even with a wheel without ZERO,

    u still lose...if long streak of losses hit.

    THUS, u could only win, if u know how to avoid streaks of losses.
    If not, then u must not gamble, lest u lose your underwear....
    or just depend on your LUCK...to win.

    THINK HARD,
    think very hard,

    people who refuse to think hard,
    always refused to accept their shortcoming...
    but spit venom toward others, when they cant think...
     

  8. Rudy

    Rudy Member Lineage to Founders

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    I was specific, only I would bet that game, is if I already knew the outcome or I would find a different game.
     
  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Beat-the-wheel,

    If you're putting the ball back in after each drawing, how does the probability change?

    Can you show us the math that's demonstrating how it's changing?
     
  10. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Dr,
    The probability, still the same.
    10B, and 1Red...
    Thus 1/11 for red,
    10/11 for black,
    but the payout different.

    the probability run from 11black in row,
    to 11red in row , in 11spins./draws.

    LOOK from different angle,
    as I told u the story of lioness on the Kalahari desert.

    She didnt chase the gazelle for miles,
    as the gazelle will OUTRUN her.

    U must not chase after the casino,
    as the edge and payout will OUTRUN U!
     
  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    How about the story of Humpty Dumpty?

    Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
    Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
    All the king's horses and all the king's men
    Couldn't put Humpty together again.
     
  12. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Dr,
    With this kind of attitude,
    how a person going to learn ???

    We must understand the basic.

    That story simply tell us that , if u chase after the casino,
    u play into the hand of casino, the edge,
    and ---
    casino will not lose,
    but chaser will soon depleted their bankroll,
    when long LOSING streaks come.
     
  13. Jesper Svensson

    Jesper Svensson Member

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    There are wheels paying out fair odds. At such wheel there is no advantages for the casino in any bet. Still it is hard to beat, the casino wins due to players smaller bankroll, and the players scary money. Many try to grind and minimize the loss, at the expense of winning more.
    The losing streak will come which kills the players bank. A negative progressor who get first 10 winnings in a row followed of ten losses,
    will first win 10 units and go bust next ten spins. A player using positive progression will first lose ten units and then win big. A flat betting will break even. Most will think martingale and grand martingale kills the bankroll at first bad streak. When using this betting systems at a no zero wheel or there the EC is realy 50%, the bank plays reversed model of the system risking one unit at the time while the player extend the bet and will lose big at the end. This means the bank using reverse method losing small until a big hit. If the player reverse the game, the bank is playing negative progression. The bank can win anyhow, the bank has a powerful bankroll, and limits its payout.
    Reversed grand martingale is not a bad method if we want to lose slow, have not big bankrolls and play for a longer winning streak.
    Ending the evning most of the time as a small loser, and sometime win big. I think is better than bragging of winning 9 of 10 session, and in fact lose more, due to heavy losses a few times. In any fora and everywhere roulette is discussed, it use to be martingale, and case of long runs of a color, which "is too rare, must be rigged". Check the outcomes, you will se a run is not very rare, and BOLD positive progression is an option.
    Using low stakes and grand martingale as up on a win, it may take 300 spins until the run comes, we are back 300 units as every bet cost an unit.
    1+3 + 7 + 15 + 31 + 63 + 127 + 255 is 8 winnings i a row. Expect to lose a long time before a winning, which sometimes not recover all lost.
    If we allways go until we are not minus in the progressons, and do not progress as long the bank grows, this is a way to not lose much, and if lucky win big.
     
  14. Jesper Svensson

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    We can not show by math the winnigs, but by the chips in our hands! We never are sure to win or lose, both can happen.
     


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