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Roulette Unhit Numbers, KTF, And Other Bad Bets

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Sparky, May 6, 2016.

  1. Sparky

    Sparky Member Founding Member

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    Systems that attempt to exploit unhit numbers, such as the KTF, on live wheels are a bad idea for the following reasons:

    1. Defective wheels. Betting on unhit numbers increases the chance that you could be betting on negatively biased numbers. Such numbers hit less frequently than they should for physical reasons. This means that the player could lose not just at the house edge, but at a rate that could theoretically exceed the house edge. If anyone would like proof of such a wheels, then drop me a PM. I would be happy to provide you with the data.
    2. Numbers are never due to hit or catch up, since the number of pockets remain the same on the wheel from one spin to the next.
    3. The up as you lose progressions associated with such systems limits the player to a paltry win, since the initial bet must be so low. The bankroll fluctuations could be larger than expected because the player is chasing their losses on potentially hazardous bets. Mathematically an up as you lose progression makes no sense.

    The better option is to bet on the numbers that have hit the most and or most recently.

    1. Attempting to bet on the hottest numbers increases the chance that the player will exploit some inefficiency in the actual wheel in the forum of a bias/defect. This is where the player can actually make money and get the edge...by exploiting inefficiencies in the wheel.
    2. This slightly reduces the chance of the player betting on a negatively biased number and ever so slightly increases the chance that the player could be wagering on a biased number. The more data the player collects before wagering, the better the odds are of getting the advantage.
    3. The player should reduce the number of numbers bet down to just one and no more than ten numbers. The more numbers the player bets on, the greater the odds are that they will be betting on a random goat or worse yet, a negatively biased number. If only one or two of the numbers is biased, but the others are random goats, then the random numbers or negatively biased numbers may wipe out the edge of the biased numbers. In roulette, less is more. Bet on fewer numbers.
    4. The player should wager a percentage of their bankroll at each spin, rather than running an up as you lose progression. In the event that the player is lucky or is wagering on biased numbers, the wins will on average be much larger than the paultry wins that are achieved with an "up as you lose progression." The player's initial bet can also be much larger, increasing the chance of a large win.
    5. Ignatus has recently come up with some clever quick play methods that chase hot numbers. Most of his hot number methods are vastly superior to the unhit number systems like the KTF.

    Good luck,

    The General

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  2. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    RouletteGhost posted at RF >> "if a 12 in a row loss happens one time every 125 spins (which i do not think it does, further testing will determine) then a progression can combat that, 12 numbers is not a bad prog".

    Still being a fucking idiot RG? Learn RG, its your only chance with this game. 5/27/14....and still stupid.

    Ken
     
  3. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    you do realize you gave praise over in the washoo2 thread which is a double dozen (24 number bet)...instead of calling the OP stupid and telling them to learn...right?

    I mean you do realize that? or are you that psychotic?

    its personal and has nothing to do with style of betting, admit it.....

    Nathan- 24 number bet- MrJ gives praise
    RG- 12 number bet, not betting every spin - MrJ says I am stupid

    see that bias?

    you are worse then CNN praising hillary
     
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  4. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Can you QUOTE my praising please, thanks.

    Ken
     
  5. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Waiting....
     
  6. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Proofreader stated >> "He had some good theories on Roulette. He said
    he and a partner were running a fake restaurant. Ken seemed to have slipped into madness".

    I said I was running a fake restaurant? I think he means he read from OTHERS, I was running a fake restaurant but whatever, water under the bridge.

    The more important part of his post.....I have said at least a dozen times, my "attitude" is as such because of the morons (mostly at RF). There is ZERO point posting methods, advice etc. The idiots benefit from it but will act stupid and cause the most shit. They'll slam my posts but then possibly play (at min. test) the very same post idea (lol).

    Get some nice wins? No.... thanks Ken, I wont hear it. The unregistered people? Same thing, they BENEFIT but why should they? Turbo posted something cool on this board, I highly dont agree with posting it. Years ago, yes!

    Turbo.....these guys dont give a flying fuck about your dedication or hard work. They'll mock you, then run off to the casino (oops, I meant their laptop) and play the very same method. My point regarding Proofreader, I feel great and the "good" ideas are freely flowing through me...ITS A GREAT DAY!! The boards will never know. Stick to your "off the wall fuckin crazy losing roulette ways". Leave the heavy lifting to me while the rest get some crumbs left over, fuck'em.

    Ken
     
  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Ken pays attention - most don't.
     


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