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Roulette Using parameters to hit sleepers

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by delectus, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Caleb is NOT talking about math and the numbers marked on the wheel ..He KNOWS the mounted wheel and what he sees uses it to his advantage .


    Christian Kaisan , the German roulette pro known as " The Wheel Watcher" 9Kesselgucker ) is on the same wave length as Caleb .




    ND
     
  2. delectus

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    Revision to parameters:

    01 071/127
    02 171/227
    03 094/150
    04 114/170
    05 147/203
    06 137/193
    07 066/122
    08 123/179
    09 178/234
    10 199/255
    11 129/185
    12 151/207
    13 135/191
    14 146/202
    15 169/225
    16 186/242
    17 075/131
    18 098/154
    19 066/122
    20 044/100
    21 105/161
    22 094/150
    23 146/202
    24 179/235
    25 127/183
    26 096/152
    27 052/108
    28 156/212
    29 109/165
    30 069/125
    31 141/197
    32 126/182
    33 048/104
    34 115/171
    35 123/179
    36 116/172
    37 148/204

    Most of the above parameters are in the right proportion. There are some that are
    still low, but they have held up well, having trawled over 100 Tables.
     
  3. delectus

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    While I was working on revising some of the parameters I recorded those sleepers that
    hit within their parameters :

    01 093
    01 116
    01 082
    01 080
    03 134
    06 167
    07 094
    07 076
    08 171
    13 137
    17 078
    17 101
    17 097
    19 072
    19 072
    19 070
    19 082
    20 045
    20 049
    20 073
    20 062
    20 066
    20 068
    21 106
    22 128
    22 094
    22 095
    24 199
    26 119
    26 118
    27 087
    27 097
    27 085
    30 075
    32 143
    33 085
    33 090
    33 090
    33 089
    33 056
    34 131

    I was very surprised at the number of hits. of course many from the low parameters.
    It will be interesting to see how they perform in the future.

    I am preparing for the trial run before going live. Hopefully I will start at the
    beginning of next week and will provide full details at that time.
     
  4. delectus

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    Set out below is an example of a detailed account of 28 spins, the maximum
    allowed in this version of 'using parameters to hit sleepers'.

    The first column 1 to 28 spins.

    2nd column the actual spins from a casino roulette wheel.

    3rd column a record of the spins count of numbers having completed the
    28 spins. For example on the fifth spin 10 came in and repeated at
    spin 18, so reset spin count. It again appeared at spin 20, therefore
    reset spin count to 8.

    4th column shows at spin 1 & 24, two sleepers, that have hit within
    their parameters, at spin count 091 & 085.

    When it shows for example number 17 075 : 131, then the number
    17 has reached it's parameter and now a sleeper.

    I will start the trial over the weekend.

    1 27 027 052/108 091
    02 31 012
    03 35 025
    04 18 000
    05 10
    06 34 022
    07 17 021
    08 26 020
    09 11 019
    10 28 018
    11 09 017
    12 23 016
    13 24 015
    14 06 014
    15 22 001
    16 31 012
    17 05 011
    18 10
    19 19 003
    20 10 008
    21 08 007
    22 02 006
    23 07
    24 01 004 071/127 085
    25 19 003
    26 07 002
    27 15 001
    28 18 000
     
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  5. delectus

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    A few more results as follows:

    1 085
    04 131
    20 070
    27 091
    27 084
    29 114
    30 077
    33 074
    33 048

    7 has revised to 118/174

    When I started this project, I would not have believed that six
    low parameters, would have survived well over 100 Tables,
    3000+ spins!
     
  6. delectus

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    Trial run (1)

    01 22
    02 29 000 063/119 114
    03 12
    04 11 004
    05 13 023
    06 03 022
    07 14 021
    08 16
    09 25 019
    10 23 018
    11 22
    12 33 000 048/104 048
    13 12 015
    14 27 030
    15 22 013
    16 29
    17 16 005
    18 29 010
    19 34 009
    20 26 008
    21 17 007
    22 01 006
    23 16 005
    24 11 004
    25 19 003
    26 36 002
    27 33 001
    28 08 000
     
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  7. delectus

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    T R (2)

    01 33 027
    02 14 026
    03 06
    04 06 024
    05 28
    06 18 022
    07 09 021
    08 10
    09 35
    10 20 000 044/100 068
    11 23 017
    12 24
    13 28 015
    14 10 014
    15 31 013
    16 24
    17 08 011
    18 35 010
    19 19 009
    20 13 008
    21 24
    22 07 006
    23 22 005
    24 12 004
    25 20 003
    26 24 002
    27 16 001
    28 36 000


    027 052:108
    030 060:104
    032 126:182
     

  8. delectus

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    correction the revised parameter for 30 is 069:125, as shown above
    in the revised parameters.
     
  9. delectus

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    TR 3

    01 03
    02 31 026
    03 12
    04 30 000 069/125 073
    05 06 023
    06 17 022
    07 18 021
    08 22 020
    09 11 019
    10 36 018
    11 21
    12 20 016
    13 30 015
    14 05 014
    15 26 013
    16 01 012
    17 15 011
    18 19
    19 03
    20 23 008
    21 03
    22 19 006
    23 03 005
    24 16 004
    25 02 003
    26 10 002
    27 21 001
    28 12 000


    032 126/182 XXX exceeds parameter will be revised
    033 048:104
     
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    T R 4

    01 29
    02 06
    03 02 025
    04 29 024
    05 25
    06 10 022
    07 37 021
    08 03
    09 19
    10 23
    11 20 017
    12 19 016
    13 12 015
    14 03
    15 28 013
    16 25
    17 04 000 114/170 122
    18 23 010
    19 34
    20 03
    21 27 007
    22 03 006
    23 01 000 052/108 107
    24 34 004
    25 06 003
    26 04 002
    27 01 001
    28 25 000

    33 048:104
    32 126/182 XXX exceeds parameter will be revised
     
  11. delectus

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    T R 5

    01 32 027
    02 25
    03 03 025
    04 33 024 048/104 087
    05 34
    06 16 022
    07 18
    08 11
    09 20
    10 11
    11 34 017
    12 05
    13 15 015
    14 09 014
    15 23
    16 18
    17 11
    18 23 010
    19 13 009
    20 25 008
    21 18 007
    22 28 006
    23 08 005
    24 01 004
    25 05 003
    26 20 002
    27 11 001
    28 12 000

    17 075:131
    30 069:125

    32 has revised to 173/229
     
  12. delectus

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    T R 6

    01 07 027
    02 15 026
    03 02 025
    04 33 024
    05 35
    06 10 022
    07 04
    08 25 020
    09 04 019
    10 26
    11 22 017
    12 06
    13 21 015
    14 03 014
    15 32 013
    16 09
    17 11 011
    18 16 010
    19 29 009
    20 09 008
    21 35 007
    22 27 006 052/108 057
    23 34
    24 06 004
    25 26 003
    26 34 002
    27 12 001
    28 01 000

    17 075:131
    19 066:122
    30 069:125
     
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  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I don't know what these numbers represent.

    However, if you're looking for limits or averages that you feel you can exploit, then you're wasting your time. You can't side step probability.

    The key to winning is to be on the best numbers, and sleepers certainly don't ever fall into that category.

    Look towards physical reasons that some numbers may hit more than other numbers. Think like a mechanic or engineer, rather than a gambler. Keywords to think about are cause and effect.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2018
  14. gizmotron

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    Not only do physical and ballistic effects create readable knowledge but so does the observation of coincidences. The Dr. here will never take his own medicine on that one because he wants to believe that only he has the working secrets. A skilled person can read randomness and the cause for why these coincidences happen in the first place. And just like the doctor a person can know when and where to place bets effectively. BTW, the Dr. is completely ignorant of the skills needed to read randomness. So his shrill opinion regarding this is centered on beliefs and superstitions that come from an antiquated mathematical belief structure. His dogmatic approach to a centralized heresy is always some self inflicted demagoguery.

    I have the evidence in my students and my own capabilities. He has a past life of unaware casinos and the thinly influenced sycophants that gobble up his almost basic structuring of a gambling theocracy. The Dr. needs to start a religious gambling evangelism TV broadcast.
     

  15. delectus

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    Before the 'Trial Run' started I gave instructions, as to how it will be set out. What part
    of the simple instructions do you not understand? If you were to ask a specific
    question, you would find that more constructive, than repeating the same nonsense
    "you're wasting your time".

    You are wrong about probability. Google it. This project shows that probability
    changes to accommodate the demands of the parameters. Every number has it's
    own parameter. It would otherwise be impossible to produce the results, that
    I have so far shown here.

    Ask specific questions about this project and I will do my best to give you a detailed
    reply.
     
  16. Jerome

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    [QUOTE="delectus, post: 52758, member: 4153"
    You are wrong about probability. Google it. This project shows that probability
    changes to accommodate the demands of the parameters.
    reply.[/QUOTE]

    How did you come to this conclusion? What you are seeing is variance, not changes in the probabilities. Your "parameters" will keep changing every time you take a new sample. Roulette probabilities are fixed, if they weren't the binomial distribution wouldn't predict them correctly, and the binomial distribution assumes that probabilities don't change. What magic makes one number have different parameters than another? I'm afraid you're being fooled by randomness. Nicholas Taleb wrote a book with the same title, I would advise you to read it.
     
  17. John Blerg

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    Delectus,

    He did the same thing over at betselection website. The only difference over there, is the admin and moderators are actual gamblers. He got into extreme discussion and beef with the admin who appears to be the owner of the site. And he did the same rhetoric over and over and over and over until he got banned because he became obnoxious and rude from what I read.

    The admin gave sporadic pictures of nice wins at the table that appear to be real and not photoshopped or taken from other generic websites. Although they could be fhe same buy ins or markers just cashed out at least he had pictures at the actual tables and score cards that are interesting that look real to me. if one wants to challenge them I guess that's up to the member????

    But somebody that repeats himself the way this member has done it at other websites and been banned. State your case and move on. and offer actual evidence and pictures to support one story. But this guy will challenge you it's a game to him, not baccarat or roulette, but here on the forums.

    It would be like myself calling the LA Times are the San Francisco Examiner or any one of hundreds of local newspapers and complaining every day with my viewpoint that opposes a local story of say a white police officer arresting and charging a black individual and claiming it's a racist violation and something to support the white race over and over and over and over and over and over everyday and emailing and calling and sending threatening letters. And newspapers and magazines and forums of these types support opinions with people telling out their sides of whatever it is but this guy does the same obnoxious thing along with a few other people. Just see through it and get back to what you were doing thank you just my opinion

    I like your stuff , ignore him if I can say the least thank you.
     
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    @Jerome They don't want to know what variance is... they 'd realize that they been fooled everytime variance was with them...it wouldn't mean then that they're clever but the opposite. They don't know also that a record is made to be beaten... all it needs is time ( a time during they'll think they more clever than others sheeps)
     
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  19. delectus

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    How did you come to this conclusion? What you are seeing is variance, not changes in the probabilities. Your "parameters" will keep changing every time you take a new sample. Roulette probabilities are fixed, if they weren't the binomial distribution wouldn't predict them correctly, and the binomial distribution assumes that probabilities don't change. What magic makes one number have different parameters than another? I'm afraid you're being fooled by randomness. Nicholas Taleb wrote a book with the same title, I would advise you to read it.[/QUOTE]


    When I started this project I did not know how it would work out. I hoped
    it would in some way mirror the model, that I have consistently used over
    the past 3 years, with excellent results!

    I mentioned in a previous post that six low parameters have hit their
    sleeper within their parameter for more than 100 Tables. According to
    you this is impossible.

    If you don't accept the results that's your problem. I don't see the point
    of making irrational comments. There is no magic. I will continue to
    produce Trial Run 28 spins, followed by posting actual spins from a
    roulette Table, that same day.
     
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    Hi John Blerg, thanks for your comments.
     

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