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Roulette Using parameters to hit sleepers

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by delectus, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. Jerome

    Jerome Active Member

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    True. Ironically, they accuse us "mathboyz" of being closed-minded, when in reality they are the ones who have closed their minds. They are convinced that they've found meaningful patterns in random outcomes and just dismiss what the experts have to say. When you've been barking up the wrong tree for years, perhaps decades, it's very hard to hear that you may have made a mistake. According to delectus I'm "irrational" for having pointed out the facts, lol. It's pointless trying to reason with people like this.
     
  2. Sharptracker

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    Yea Rhetti also found a way to beat the roulette with a dozen bet... check out his results, the probabilities have also change... This roulette is just a swiss cheese.
     
  3. Jerome

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    delectus,

    The point is that you would have got the same results with or without using your parameters. Take the first of your parameters : 01 071/127. So if number 1 sleeps for 71 spins you have found that it hits before spin 127, ie, before another 56 spins. In reality, because the probabilities don't change, it doesn't matter WHEN you start betting, the probability that you will get a hit before 56 spins is always the same, namely 78.4%. When you understand this you'll realize that your triggers are worthless.
     
  4. Sharptracker

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    I know what you mean but it's not their whole fault. If you take 100 ignorants and make them start to play a game like poker, and 100 other ignorants and make them start to play roulette you'll get after a while a better result with ignorants that played poker... there s no mysterious crap in that game, no strategy with a hot Queen and a sleeping jack.
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    In the random game, every number has the exact same probability of hitting. It doesn't change from one spin to the next based on which numbers have hit more or less in the past. The reason is that the number of pockets determines the probability of a number winning and the number of pockets does not change from one spin to the next. If you don't believe me, then feel free to count them before you bet each spin.
     
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  6. delectus

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    I have already explained the object of this project, but for some unknown reason
    you have failed to grasp it.

    If I sit at the same Table for 300 spins the number 4 may or may not come in.
    I will have lost all my money if it does not appear.

    If instead the next day I sit at the same Table for 28 spins I am not going to
    gamble if 4 comes in or not. I will however place a bet on 21, as it is now a
    sleeper, with a parameter of 105/161, with the knowledge that it has hit it's
    parameter several times previously. Now 4 may come in 3 times and I
    could say, if only I had put my money on 4, I would have got most of my
    money back from the previous day. The casino would very much hope
    you will come in day after day to try to get back your losses and hope
    that three 4's will appear within a few spins.

    This project is not interested if six 4's came in before it's parameter of
    114/170, because it is just as likely that no 4's appeared.

    I would much rather place a bet on 4, that has shown to appear within it's
    parameter, than sit at a Table for 300 spins.

    You can quote all sorts of nonsense, but it does not stand up to reality'
    Every number has it's own parameter, has produced results and especially
    from the low parameters, which I still find amazing.
     
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  7. delectus

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    I am not interested in irrelevant general comments, by all means comment
    specifically on a particular aspect of this project. All pointless comments
    will be ignored. To quote you back "You're wasting my time"
     

  8. gizmotron

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    and probability has no effect on streaks of Reds, or streaks of Blacks. All the probability in the world can't predict when a streak will start, how long it will continue, and when it will end. There is no force that does that, not even the odds, the probability, or the house's edge. But there is one factor that always remains a constant. I can predict with certainty that the Dr. will blow snow like a Snowman for another decade.
     
  9. John Blerg

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    I told u his entire purpose. Same shit every every site, His Name on the other one, he admitted here was Xander. again thank you
     
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    You're right Gizmo, but if your "reading randomness" could do it, then it would be the same as the probability of predicting those things, so you've just refuted yourself, LOL!
     
  11. Jerome

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    Just as likely as what? It's highly likely that a 4 came before the 114 spins, and the same for the other parameters. By waiting for sleepers you're missing out on all the hits which came before, and when you start betting after your triggers the probability hasn't improved at all. Waiting for the trigger doesn't mean that the number will come in sooner than if you hadn't waited for it; it doesn't give you the safety net you think it has.
     
  12. gizmotron

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    That's sort of fantastic. I've always appreciated it when anyone in public performed the pretzel logic maneuver.

    My reading randomness does not predict it either. So I have done the magical double back-flip with a backside fakie. I refuted an airball, brick, a nothing burger. How do you like the slang?

    You don't need to know the future in order to speculate and take advantage of the future. You just need to know the road you are on while on the way to that future.
     
  13. Jerome

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    Gizmo, you're always playing semantic games like saying "I don't predict anything". But no matter what you call it, if your guessing gives you an edge over and above what probability dictates then there must be, in reality, some patterns which are indicators of future spins, right? There's no way to deny this and still insist that you have an edge. All you have to do then is identify those patterns and work out the chances of winning your bets when they come up. In other words, probability really CAN tell you when a streak will begin or end after all.

    Of course in reality it can't, and reading randomness is an oxymoron, but I guess some people believe it can be done because I see you're spamming the forums again looking for new students.
     
  14. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Gizmo,

    Claiming that you can read randomness is a bit of an oxymoron. Random is random.

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    He's also using probably using a vpn to post as Delectus.
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

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    The majority of roulette player does not pay any attention to those charts and statistics anyway . Nobody wil pay attention.


    That kind of stuff is a forum kier . Out of step with general casino patrons ..
     
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  17. gizmotron

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    When are you guys going to figure out that you don't need to know, see, or count on the future in order to see the conditions you are in? I have some semantics for you. Stop eating each other's poop.
     
  18. gizmotron

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    You guys gather together like a Bozo convention of wannabees that is always in dire need of mimicking an Elvis Convention's claim to fame. A gathering of clowns all stuck on group think. I have a student that has disintegrated the known math. All you can do is wait for it in your safe zone, snowflakes.
     
  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Gizmo thinks the way he does because he hasn't gambled much. When he does he's often only playing for nine units, if even that.
     
  20. gizmotron

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    Dr. Dickweed ...



    slang, derogatory


    • A stupid, obnoxious, or contemptible person (especially a man).
     
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