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Roulette Virtual win first. EC bet.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by beat-the-wheel, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    HOW I BET, RED EC.

    [or any EC.]

    Rules/bet selection / MM
    Progression used is +1 after W , and after 2Losses, -1.

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    1]Wait for one virtual WIN of red to hit first.

    THEN,after a virtual W,

    2] Wait FOR A trigger,
    of RED, to hit...in next 2spins.

    IF no trigger in the next 2spins.

    ABORT session, and restart!
    ======================================


    Wait for new virtual win, of RED.

    1]Wait for one virtual WIN of red to hit first.

    THEN,after a virtual W,

    2] Wait FOR A trigger,
    of RED, to hit...in next 2spins.

    3]When a Trigger hit, in the next 2spins after a virtual win.

    4]Bet red for four time.

    5]If not hit in the 4spins attempt, ABORT.
    Start a new session.
    ========================

    What if RED keep hitting?

    1]Wait for one virtual WIN of red to hit first.

    THEN,after a virtual W,

    2] Wait FOR A trigger,
    of RED, to hit...in next 2spins.

    3]When a Trigger hit, in the next 2spins after a virtual win.

    4]Bet red for four time.

    5]If RED hit in the 1st,2nd,3rd,4th spins, continue to bet till in profit, ABORT when LOSE 4spins in a row.
    Start anew session.

    ==================================
    This system HAS a FLAW due to law of edge, and other laws.!
    IF U KNOW HOW TO RECTIFY THE FLAW, U HAVE A NEAR HG.
    ======================================

    example of strategy.

    wait for virtual win:
    B
    B
    B
    RED=virtual win, get ready.
    B
    B
    B=abort, no trigger, IN 2SPINS
    B
    B
    B
    RED=virtual win, get ready.
    B
    B
    B=abort, no trigger
    B
    B
    RED=virtual win, get ready
    B
    RED=trigger!
    B=bet=lose1
    B=bet=lose2
    B=bet=lose3
    B=bet=lose4
    B=Abort, 4losses in row.
    B
    B
    B
    RED=virtual win, get ready
    B
    RED=trigger!
    B=bet=lose1
    B=bet=lose2
    B=bet=lose3
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=bet=lose1
    B=bet=lose2
    B=bet=lose3
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=bet=lose1
    B=bet=lose2
    B=bet=lose3
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=bet=lose1
    B=bet=lose2
    B=bet=lose3
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=bet=lose1
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=bet=lose1
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=bet=lose1
    B=bet=lose2
    B=bet=lose3
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=bet=lose1
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=LOSE1
    B=LOSE2
    B=LOSE3
    B=LOSE4, 4losses in row.
    B=ABORT, START ANEW
    B=
    B=
    RED=virtual win, get ready
    B=
    RED=trigger!
    B=bet=lose1
    B=bet=lose2
    B=bet=lose3
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    RED=hit, bet for next 4spins
    B=LOSE1
    B=LOSE2
    B=LOSE3
    B=LOSE4, 4losses in row.
    B=ABORT, START ANEW
    B=
    B=
    RED=virtual win, get ready
    B=
    RED=trigger!
     
  2. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    While this strategy may work in certain situations, it will fail in others. A little harsh run of losses versus wins will make it go endlessly high without ever winning 1 unit.
    For all your betting/progressin theories that you feel can change the expectation of winnings, I have only suggestion for you and all: Simulate for long run.
     
  3. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Hi Albalaha.

    As I see it,
    all progression will fail when ,
    the winning,
    hit less from the,
    needed,
    "expectation-of-hit",
    for a particular progression to win,
    at least 1unit.

    eg. Labby failed,
    because the winning ,
    hit less than 1/3, etc.

    Marthy failed,
    when losses hit up to 20, streak?

    Thus, that why I say,

    A flaw,
    will make this method losing huge.
    Only rectified flaw's causes ,
    may make this progression,
    or other well known progression,
    a long term winner.

    "progression theories",
    CANNOT change the expectation of winnings.

    It will sooner or later, fail,
    when the long "UNEXPECTED" streak, arrived!



    By now only few people understand how to rectify the flaw.
    it is not the law of probability,
    or edge,
    but rather in the law of distribution.
    and other laws

    Sadly,
    only a few ,
    willing to work hard very hard to understand.
    but once understood,
    will change the way he view gambling FOREVER.
    Thanks.
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Then post it.
    Oh wait, you can't (u can't) get people to pay for garbage if you actually reveal the nonsense of which you speak.
    Roulette Jesus and Roulette Disciple. Shakes my head.
    I heard that there is a cure for cancer, but people don't deserve to know what it is because they haven't worked hard enough to understand how it cures cancer.. What a shame.. Think of the lives that could be saved.
    Jesus would never act like that, shame on you. Laughs.
     
  5. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    But you can say that about every roulette system ever invented. Sometimes it wins and sometimes it loses. Every system can find circumstances where it's favorable to play. Means nothing because it won't last.
     
  6. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    This is just wrong. There is no 'flaw', there is no magical cure for a mystical flaw that doesn't exist. If you know how to correctly choose the next bet more often than not, you will never need a progression. A progression is just a bandage for a poor bet selection. A progression without proper bet selection will always, to the end of time, be a loser. If someone tries to sell you a progression, any progression, and tell you it's a long time winner, laugh in his face.
     
  7. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Gentlemen,
    The FLAW, is not in the progression, and betselection.

    The FLAW imbedded in the law of distribution.

    If u are intelligent enough,
    u will immediately understand.

    If u still scratching your head, trying to understand,
    then u still very far from the understanding


    U almost there, just a nick of understanding,
    But people wont just give u the answer.
    U must work hard for them.

    If u people, still insist on edge, probability, progression,
    then, tell u, u still running in circle, and think u had go far.

    No, I never ask for single cent, nor will accepting money from anyone, of gambling forum.
    What we need are mutual respect, understanding, and humility.

    There is something that u guy still not understand.
    But since people alway has huge ego, they will stay ignorant.
     

  8. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    There is no flaw indeed. Random is as much beautiful as it is ugly. No randomness, no gambling.
     
  9. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Hi Albalaha,
    The "flaw",
    is NO progression , or any known selection ,
    will "endure long streaks of losses, or only a few win, smacks in among the streaks".

    maybe I use wrong English words,
    [since English, not my bla,bla,bla.]

    My Guru , show me the way,
    But I think you also know how to rectify the said FLAW?
     
  10. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Suppose you need to drive a car for 100 miles having all forests, muddy roads, potholes, bumps and a maximum time limit what do you need to clear this challenge? You need a strong car and calm and experienced driver who can drive across all of them with enough fuel and all other resources.
    Do not take gambling as a 100 meter sprint. Take it as a marathon. Have lots of stamina, dedication and preservance or rather as mountaineering. Unless you are skilled, calm, oriented and experienced there is no room for success.
     
  11. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    There's no flaw in the distribution of random outcomes of a roulette wheel.

    It's you that doesn't understand if you think there's a flaw. The flaw is in you, not the game.
     
  12. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Indeed. Considering a randomised scatter as "flaw" is a flaw in itself.
    Similarly, there is no flaw in a true RNG. It may not suit your betselection, any moment but that doesn't make it a "flaw". If there is something with certain flaw in a casino, that is unfair payout or "house edge". Since casinos need to earn to survive, this vital flaw has to be accepted.
     
  13. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Gentlemen,
    Sorry for my English.

    I did not mean, the law is flawed.

    I mean the FLAW,of gambling, which caused losses,
    [thus progression cant win when the streaks hit],

    is caused by the, event in the "law of distribution",
     
  14. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    The outcomes are different, even if you can't see it. It's like learning to play billiards on a 6' table, then trying to play the same game on an 8' table. Every shot will be off, even though the game is exactly the same. RNG outcomes aren't wrong, they are just more random than on a roulette wheel.
     

  15. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Gentlemen,

    The FLAW of every well-known bet-selection, and progression,
    is they cant withstand the ASSAULT of losing streaks,
    or too little win, in between the streak.

    My Guru understand this perfectly,
    and he show me,
    alas, 90%, of his knowledge.
    HOW to COUNTER ASSAULT, this assault!

    He said ,
    only a few human, out of the whole 7billions planet earth population,
    understand 100% of this...HG.

    No , I do not have the HG, or else , what am I doing here? hehehee..

    Maybe I repeat this..

    The FLAW of every well-known bet-selection, and progression,
    is they cant withstand the ASSAULT of losing streaks,
    or too little win, in between the streak.
     
  16. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    That is the one and only trouble in a game of chance. Wins and losses may cluster in any manner. In a random game, it is beyond your control so be prepared to face them.
     
  17. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Gentlemen,

    YES!!!
    it is TRULY beyond our control,

    THUS,
    How are we going to face them?!

    That the real question,
    a gambler need to ask and seek the answer.

    Any opinion, Gentlemen?

    ps: Puhleeez...I am not in cohort with anyone,
    nor trying to make a single cent from anyone,
    it is pure passion or love,
    of roulette, that I join discussion,
    and respectfully, expect every gentleman here,
    to debate gentlemanly.

    U have the right to disagree,
    and the right say what u wanna say.
    but of course, be a respected gentleman.
    Dont let all the pretty ladies here,
    roll their eyes reading our debates.

    Thanks.
     
  18. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    I think he mean...
    we cant predict what will happen,
    and cant control what will happen,

    Thus we need to expect firsthand,
    what will happen, and prepare to handle them,
    when they happen.

    But HOW to handle them , is the million dollar question.

    Any opinion, gentlemen?
     
  19. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    It's beyond your control if you don't have a winning bet selection, you mean. The whole point is to find a way to control your losses. If you do that the wins will take control of themselves.
     
  20. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Hi Ekaps,
    May u please ,
    explain more, about the,
    "find a way to control your losses."

    I am eager to learn.
    Thanks in advance.
     

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