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Roulette Wanted .... help

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by BETJACK, Oct 3, 2018.

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  1. BETJACK

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    Witchcraft can be learn. :)
     
  2. BlueAngel

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    I like this idea, alternatively could be the last 3 numbers for 12 spins.
    On revolving basis where the older is being replaced by the last spun number.
    However, these 2 approaches take under consideration only the time factor (spins), it must be cross referenced with the wheel's positions which represent the space factor.

    1 repeat every 3 spins and/or 1 repeat per 3 wheel's pockets equal 36 spins for 36 numbers with 12 repeats.
    This is only an average and results are not being formed in a fixed way, but dynamically unfolding.
    Despite the uneven, dynamic distribution at some point within the cycle there will be either case, 1/3 by time and/or space.
     
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  3. BETJACK

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    5 number bet =1 spin+ 4 up the carpet flat bet
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    Drops 16
    Bet 16+ 17,18,19,20
     
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  4. BlueAngel

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    The last 3 spun numbers are changing from spin to spin, the 3 wheel pockets should be the same, not changing.
    Choose any 3 continuous/connected wheel pockets/positions you like, only when there is a hit on any of these 3 pockets/positions bet it to repeat.
    The limit for both ways is 37 spins, including spins you don't bet.
    Aim for net profit with 1 win.
     
  5. Bombus

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    OK betjack, here's a tip to help you seek broader horizons with your repeaters quest.

    You are playing a random game. It can be on a real wheel, or on RNG. Now assuming it's fair, for the random game it makes no difference how the numbers are generated.

    If we agree it makes no difference how the number streams are created, then it also makes no difference how you assess them. What this means is that you can use anything you can think of to create your own number stream and identify a repeater, and it will have the same viability as using traditional inside numbers.

    A simple example is numerology. In numerology all numbers break down to core numbers, for example number 27 breaks down to core number 9. Number 12 breaks down to core number 3, etc.

    For example, lets say these are the last 7 numbers out. 27, 27, 12, 4, 0, 19, 12.... Traditionally a repeater system might now be betting on numbers 12, 27.

    But remembering that because it's a random game we can assess the numbers as we please, you could include the numerology core numbers as they have also repeated. So now the bet would be on numbers 3, 9, 12, 27.


    Take it a step further and include repeating finales and now the bet is on numbers... 2, 3, 7, 9, 12, 13, 17, 19, 22, 23, 27, 29, 32, 33.

    All of a sudden you are betting on 14 numbers extrapolated from just two traditional repeaters (12, 27).


    Looking at those seven number out... 27, 27, 12, 4, 0, 19, 12. You can see that the first two numbers out were number 27. Traditionally you might now be betting on number 27, but using the extra numerology layer, and the extra finales layer, the bet would be 7, 9, 17, 19, 27, 29.

    You can see this bet won on the fourth attempt with number 19, whereas number 27 is yet to show.



    There you go betjack, good luck.
     
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    Since you spoke about numerology let me put it straight;
    The group which 27 belongs is: 9, 18 and 36, while on finals is: 7 and 17.
    So if we would like to relate 27 with numerology and finals groups we would bet: 7,9,17,18,27,36, a total of 6 numbers instead of 1.
    By betting more numbers doesn't necessarily improve the chance to win, more numbers should be bet for short and few numbers should be bet for longer time.
    Eventually the much space with less time against less space (around the wheel) with more time are canceling each other and all you left with is the HE.
    Only when you know WHY you are betting what you do can make the difference, everyone could find a reason to justify why bets what he/she bets, BUT MOST of the reasoning is flawed in one way or the other.
    There is no advantage in the quantities, you should explain to yourself why what you select it's better than its opposite.
    On the end it must make sense, not a mambo jumbo or hocus pocus logic could ever win long term!
     
  7. Bombus

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    BA, It was a simple example for betjack to look deeper into repeaters than just the traditional means. I only added the core number for 27, which is 9.

    I was not suggesting a study of numerology, or that this is the way to beat roulette (long term), I was merely pointing out the fact that repeating numbers have no more credibility than repeating finales, etc. Why? because it's a random game.

    Now he can expand his thinking on the game.
     
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  8. BlueAngel

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    I'm sure Ken and Ed wouldn't agree with you.
     
  9. Bombus

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    Well that don't make me wrong.


    You see, I'm just trying to help, whereas you always just want people to do it your way.
     
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    To do what?
    I've not requested anyone to do anything.
    From the other hand you are equating repeaters with finals and numerology, so with your perfect reasoning help me understand why when the wheel pocket with reference number 17 is receiving the ball suddenly we have to consider that 7 and 27 are in the same condition as 17?
    Repeats are part of statistics, not mambo jumbo, 1 number/slot/pocket can never be related with a bunch of other pockets around the wheel.
    If the wheel's pockets had colors instead of numbers then they would invented the "rainbow" bet, if they had letters they would invent the: "looser" bet...!
     
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    BA, I can see it's beyond you. You're stuck in the mud quagmire of your own making.

    Betjack is playing RNG.

    WTF do wheel pockets have to do with anything apart from the fact that you can use them if you want to?

    Like I said, in the random game you can use anything you want to, even repeating pretend wheel sections if that's your thing.
     
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    I thought we were speaking about physical wheels, RNG is a different kind of random, thus what you said is valid for RNG only.
     
  13. Bombus

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    It's valid on real wheels too. That's the bit that's beyond you.

    On a fair wheel, each number has 1.37 chance of showing regardless of any reference pocket.

    If you want to talk AP, then reference pockets and dominate diamonds and ball decay and yardage and wobbly wheels and blistered number tapes, etc, are definitely on the table for consideration.

    Betjack is trying to create a system, that's system for repeaters.


    Can we help you out of the mud?


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    How to help me, by telling me your little secret of how to win on dozen(s) bet?
    Don't be ridiculous!
     
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    By the way, all casinos games are ruled by randomness but that don't make them the same.
    The same goes for RNG, it is more like slut machine rather than physical wheel, it has been programmed for a fixed return like any other sluts.
    It is calculating on real time how much money went in and from that gross returns a percentage.
    No result on live roulette is predetermined before it actually happens, on the contrary RNG has generated sequences before you even bet.
    On card games the shoes contain already a certain order of the cards which means that the decisions are already predetermined (unless there is continuous shuffling machine involved).
    So the ONLY common is that we don't know, BUT the procedures of the results generation is DIFFERENT, you can never equate roulette on RNGs with roulette on physical WHEELS.
    Do you get it?
     
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    I'm right and you're wrong, because I'm the king of the castle and you're the dirty rascal.
     
  17. BETJACK

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    Thanks for showing me to see the numbers differently @Bombus .

    one more test different .

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    You are delirious!
    Get yourself together!
     
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    Theoretical gamblers is there an A+ or just goes as high as an A, for getting things right on the computer hand after hand?

    Always kind of wondered that!
     
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    They are giving high 5 to themselves, patting their backs, I believe it's self explanatory.
     

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