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Baccarat What are your pre-determined bet selections and the trigger you wait for before placing your bets?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jon Wick, Sep 8, 2021.

  1. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member

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    You simply can't, the only other option is card depletion, which also received a mention.

    It doesn't in determining whether you'll win or lose, however changing the bet amount will eliminate prior losses, I've said it before, Baccarat is a money game, you bring an army to win a small battle, how you utilise that army is the key. Also here is where the maths angle comes into play, to lose a bet is 50/50, to lose the next bet is also 50/50, but if you evaluate them as a series of bets, then the odds are 25% before you place the first bet, granted the final bet if you lose is 50/50.

    Use a 4 column template, the odds off the top of my head is something like 6.25%, alternatively over 90% of grabbing a win within the series, again it's how you view it from the onset, the final bet still remains a 50/50 proposition. Of course nobody will lose forever, but you can lose for a long time, which is why I've always said money management (changing bet size) is the key, obviously that doesn't mean betting bigger and bigger. I'm trying to use my money to gain some of the casinos money, not be entertained or playing some guessing game to win more decisions than losing decisions, I couldn't care if I won 20 hands and lost 60 if I walk out with more money than I walked in with.


    The advantage of tracking 10's etc, is simply to insignificant to be of any benefit at all. I've read John May's Tie material, can't say I was impressed, favourable situations, rare as hens teeth. I revisited it with a vengeance with the advent of the Super egalite, nothing doing,

    Because it can't be done, the margins are too small for it to be of any benefit (4's and 6's leaving the shoe, already tried that eons ago), maybe if you're autistic and can memorise 8 decks? But again, there is no point, as they cut a deck or half a deck off anyway.
     
  2. Frank Kneeland

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    I cannot find any fault in that logic after an accuracy glance. You'll have to give me some more time to come up with a contradictory position with merit.

    F-it

    I'll just agree again.
     
  3. Frank Kneeland

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    I absolutely love this post of yours. Whether or not I agree, or disagree, is utterly irrelevant. You have just given me insight into areas of human thinking I had never pondered. Thank you for taking the time...
     
  4. Frank Kneeland

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    It never ceases to amaze me. how smart and stupid we can be simultaneously and at the same time.

    ~This was a note to self (not directed at anyone)
     
  5. soxfan

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    Yer bets selection need to be based on the logical sures thing. All of this trendings/guessings/shoes reading/roads driving/ columns/row etc. is all just bulls shits, nonsenses and foolishness what ain't make no sense, hey hey.
     
  6. stephen

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    Bet selections are subject to house advantage. Unicorns are not real, but house edge is.
     
  7. Junket King

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    Bet selections will also follow the maths and probability generally.
     
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  8. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Look mate, if you're just going to follow math then I don't get to argue with you and make forum posting entertaining for me. It's this or Netflix with roommates that only watch murder porn (AKA: crime drama).

    Can we argue about exactly you mean by the word, "generally"?

    I'd consider it a favor...
     
  9. Frank Kneeland

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    Unicorns are real. I have seen several. Extremely rare versions with two horns...
     
  10. Junket King

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    "Generally" are the odd-ball crazed symmetrical patterns, those 1,048,576/1 occurrences.

    Sure any 20 hand pattern has the exact same odds, however you will see a lot of chaos before you notice 11 repeating 2's in a row, or 20 singles in a row, of even a repeating 4-1 pattern times 4. Mathites will argue "you only notice blah blah", "they all have the same frequency odds, probability", not disputing that.

    Asymmetrical 20 hand patterns easily occur way more often than Symmetrical patterns, in fact simple maths clearly show this should be expected.
     
  11. Frank Kneeland

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    I think mathites might be less likely to argue that point than cognitive scientists who merely point out that often the biggest factor in spotting patterns is not in the pattern itself...it's in the human minds ability to spot patterns.
     
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    Even that can be seen as subjective given that some people have been trained to see even deeper. I see a connection between the intervals of patterns that stay and repeat the same characteristic across 6 different data groupings for instance. They move around but they keep the same characteristic causing the pattern to be present somewhere across the multi-groupings. My experience is that humans never go looking deeper into things like the characteristics of effects. They just see the sailing ship or Godzilla in a cloud and that's it.
     
  13. Junket King

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    Even a blind man would sense something was amiss at any table with;

    BPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP

    OR

    BBPPBBPPBBPPBBPPBBPP

    In fact I've played a few times at a table with a blind man.
     
  14. Frank Kneeland

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    Very well said...BTW I LOVE Godzilla movies, especially the tiny fairy twins that sang to Mothera. It does not make me a bad person.
     

  15. Frank Kneeland

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    These are easily identifiable patterns to the human brain. My point is that there are other less obvious patterns we don't see, for no other reason that they are less obvious. Even your ability to understand and identify what "B" & "P" signify is a construct of your brain and rules for a thing someone else's brain created. It all an illusion.

    I'm not really here...
     
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    While I'll apologize in advance, Frank, I am compelled to firmly disagree with the premise of these statements.

    Both the "B" and "P" results will conform, over the long term, to certain set statistics. Just as a quick and simple example, we know that 87% of all Baccarat results will filter themselves into series' of 1's and/or 2's and/or 3's.

    The astute Baccarat player is very aware of all pertinent statistics of the "B" and "P'' results, ESPECIALLY as they pertain to THEIR particular bet selection process; bearing in mind, however, that the astute player is operating under a "long-term" approach, as, IMHO, they most certainly should.

    Take care and stay well, all.
     
  17. Frank Kneeland

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    I think you misunderstood me. What I was saying is that when I use the symbol, "B" you know what that means. You personally did not come up with that vector combination of black lines on a white background. That particular combination of black and white might well mean something else to someone else. I am speaking to you right now, only because we moderately agree on silly patterns that are totally made up by someone. And while we may both be hallucinating, we can communicate because we share the same delusion.
     
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    Frank your psychobabble has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
     
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    I hear what you are saying and I will try to stay more on topic. It all makes sense to me. I need to be more mindful of how the things I say are comprehended by others. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. We all tend to live inside our own minds, and when we try to communicate with other people, even to help, we end up talking to ourselves.

    That's not psychobabble, it's the greatest hurdle I face in my life.

    Be well...
     
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    i wonder if the Frank Kneeland still play the fiddle, hey hey????
     

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