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Roulette What if I told you...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Active Member Founding Member

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    and you can do this all day every day - regardless of "Hot" or "Cold" numbers, regardless of the dealer or the casino... because it is math which even the casino has no ability to change.
     
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    I respect everything about you Ed. I would watch you eat cereal for two hours if I could learn a thing or two. No arguing from ME on YOUR thread here.

    Ken
     
  3. RouletteGhost

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    TG you most definitely think outside the box

    I 100 percent agree with how you view roulette

    Lets say you play 40 spins. About 1 hour a day. What if you always hit the dip in your graph?

    Memes can communicate universally. What if i told you.....
     
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    In response to your meme
     
  5. TurboGenius

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    I'm not sure how much discussion I plan to have on this - aside from what I posted.
    I've said it before though - There are things we "know" will happen, which wouldn't be possible
    if this were not a random game. The fact that it's random allows us to use math to win (every time).
    The argument can be made "What if you only play 1 spin per visit" and then of course you would not
    win. My progression comment was because that's what it takes. (progressions happen over time).
    There are a few things we've been told are "bad" and "won't work" which is not true.
    Chasing a loss or draw down by betting more and more is always a bad idea.
    If you knew with 100% accuracy that you would win though - a progression makes total sense.
    Putting more and more money on a "winning" number doesn't mean it will stay a winning number
    (hence you lose as well).
    Progressions though are NOT the enemy. Only when used wrong as most people do.
    Perhaps threads like this will motivate people to think in other ways instead of a 'term' being thrown
    into a junk heap and then never thought of again.
    There are 38 possible outcomes and the house pays 35 to 1 on a win.
    The "reality" of this is that a progression is needed (to combat the house edge) (when used properly).
    I ran off more spins but as I said - you can do this all day, every day and it will never fail.
    The fact that the game is random prevents it from being able to lose.
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  6. RouletteGhost

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    I have been saying this for years
     
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    Human brains natutally find and look for patterns

    Why fight that

    I tend to look for patterns not LIKELY to repeat. I say likely because anything can happen. Then a prog can be used

    I was obsessed with grassroots for sometime. Especially betting against a dozen sequence that just occured. I think it can be tweaked to win daily. Several members do but they stopped posting and operate thru PM. But they tell me about it

    Your 4 number sections like 1a 1b 1c etc is a good start to attempt exploiting a pattern non repeat

    That being said can you eat cereal for 2 hours and post the video
     
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    Sorry to say TG, until you can reel in those long and massive drawdowns, this will fail too.
     
  9. TurboGenius

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    Only if it's some good cereal - like Cookie Crisp ! Then - maybe...
     
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    Failure is impossible.
    (Heard that before ? I have. Not with this though, math is rock solid and can't be subject to "good and bad" runs.)
     
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    1 spin per visit is exactly my long term aim. At the moment I don't bet big enough to make it worth while. So I settle for winning 100+ units in 5-8 spins. More often than not I get my first hit on the first spin.
     
  12. TurboGenius

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    Drawdown as a term should be redefined anyway... Grins.
    Instead of it being "where are you based on your last high balance" - it should be
    "where are you based on the average profit you are making".
    This can be seen with the red line in the RX chart. A legit drawdown is where you are at the moment
    under that red line (the average). And you want the red line to be climbing at all times and not turning downward.
    We surely don't use Drawup to define when we are ahead of where "we should be" (which happens).
    The system corrects itself - being "down" from your high balance (yet still positive by a lot) doesn't mean a
    failure or even a problem. It can actually mean you have success. Think about it.
    Draw a imaginary line from 0 to your balance where that chart ends - anything below your line is considered a drawdown as well.

    From spin #1 you "should" begin a negative decline in balance thanks to the house edge.
    "Long term" testing of systems show this decline and eventually you will be at the amount where the house
    edge states you should be at. (or worse).
    Anything above that (actually, anything above 0 profit) is not a drawdown unless your current balance is below that "red line".
     
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    I have to agree Bombus. 5K draw downs are mental. Graph is just a graph. Means nothing.

    Its a bit sad TG. I really admired you on the blog years ago. Sharing every system and all its details.

    Now its all "I have the winner" and you dont. Bragging and hinting.

    Quite a turn around.

    I tend to think this turn around is an odd thing usually.

    Its usually where a person is an innovator and leads the way. Clever and inventive and draws quite a crowd of admirers and becomes famous, albeit withing a tight community.

    Then it dawns on them that roulette cant be beat.....but they still need a following, so they become an enigma and a parody of themselves and hint and brag that they have the winning system.

    Sometimes in the guise of short "I will make you think but not give it away" seminars. GG/Priyanka is an expert.

    Some are good at it, and pull it off, and some are bad at it and dont (Ken)

    Your a cool guy TG and would never make personal comments about you. Its you who got me thinking about roulette along with Number Six....but Im a big boy now, and cant be fooled or easily conned.

    What wowed me 8 years ago isnt that impressive anymore.

    Maths cant beat a maths game.

    Why doesnt Caleb tear you a new arsehole over that statement?

    What is it with you 2?

    Roulette is maths. 35-1 paid for 37 or 38 numbers.

    End of chat. Caleb is right.
     
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    And of course there is also the crowd who want everything explained to them in detail.
    The only problem is - I have given every detail.
    Since you are looking for all of this to be clues, then clues are all you see.
    There is nothing I can do about that - you're a big boy now and don't need to learn anything.
     
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    I dont get it. Showing graphs and laying clues
    If you actually spelled it out, would we get those graphs? who knows
    If you dont want people to know how the graph was made, then dont show the graph.

    Otherwise, you keep the control, and thats what the game is.

    Not the graph, not the "grail", but the control.

    They are all at it....some better at it than others
     
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    I did the same, when I started studying Roulette there were a group of names that I held in high standing and I eagerly read everything they posted, four of them being:

    Bombus
    TurboGenius
    MrJ
    NathanDetroit (to a lesser extent)

    Now only Bombus gets my respect, the rest are just.....NOTHING.
     
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    People that don't like you - claiming that they did, but now do not - is not news.
    I'll continue to post for the people who are paying attention.
    The haters of the past will continue to do so unless someone takes them by the hand and explains everything in detail.
    It's much easier than thinking : "Now.. what did he say.... how does this work......"
    In the same way as it's always been - people will pick up things that help them, others won't.
    But I do thank you for putting me in the group with Ken and Nathan D - that is a compliment. Perhaps you didn't mean it as such but since I've been called "Deplorable" recently... being called "NOTHING" means... just that.
     
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    If you took the time to think about it.... you have no idea what the unit size is that I'm using.
    Is 5k "mental" when using $100.00 chips ?
    If I posted an identical chart using a small(er) chip value and only had a $50.00 "draw down" that would be ok ?
    Think before you jump to dismiss something. (or don't, but you made that choice already)
     
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    Just for what I posted (chart that means nothing) :
    The math for the house edge means that my current balance should be - $12,972.63
    My balance shows + $8,850.00
    A difference of $21,822.63 but alas you are right. A 5k draw down is "mental" and the chart shows nothing.
    Are you sure that you understand math ?
     
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    Here - I grabbed another list of my numbers and started over - staying away from the scary 5k mental draw down and made the unit size smaller. Better ? It will work regardless of unit size (testicle size in some cases).
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