1. Welcome to the #1 Gambling Community with the best minds across the entire gambling spectrum. REGISTER NOW!
  2. Have a gambling question?

    Post it here and our gambling experts will answer it!
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Discussions in this section are assumed to be EV- as they are outside of the Advantage Play section. For EV+ discussions, please visit the Advantage Play section.
    Dismiss Notice

Baccarat What Is Considered a Good Hit Rate in Baccarat

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 30, 2021.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2020
    Likes:
    866
    Location:
    midwest
    What is considered a good hit rate in baccarat. Percentage-wise. You're playing an entire shoe, what percentage do you expect to get right and what percentage do you expect to get wrong. What is the hit rate of all these super duper excellent playing world champions I keep hearing about. The people who brag about how they make nothing but money playing Bac. Surely it must be huge, but I'm guessing it's not.
     
  2. Keyser Soze

    Keyser Soze Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2021
    Likes:
    140
    Location:
    Canada
    Dafuq you doing over here? You lost or sumthin’?

    Just messin’ witcha:)
     
  3. CT70

    CT70 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2021
    Likes:
    22
    Location:
    California
    Most players can’t even get 50%, that’s why they have to resort to negative progressions.
    IMO 63-68% is pretty good, and good enough to make a profit by my merely flat betting.
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2021
  4. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2020
    Likes:
    90
    Location:
    Asia
    Above 52% already enough to make a profit even after banker commission.

    Bonus if can get extra bonus like rolling / turnover commision / or whatever the name
     
  5. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2020
    Likes:
    866
    Location:
    midwest
    That's what I think is happening. These HotShots don't have a hit rate over 50% but they can stay close enough to even where they can use a progression if it doesn't blow up in their face.


    Do you know people who do 65% in baccarat? How would they do it we just one stream of information to follow.
     
  6. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2020
    Likes:
    866
    Location:
    midwest
    At 52% you can play an entire shoe and not be ahead by one unit. You would have to use progressions and hope they worked.
     
  7. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2020
    Likes:
    90
    Location:
    Asia
    No. When i testing play casino online live dealer.

    My bet around 1700 bet total. My win rate decision just maybe 51,8% but still in profit.

    But i know just a little maybe just around plus 30 unit after banker commission.

    But the fact still in profit. And one thing i said again. Its purely flat bet.

    So i dont agree with your saying need progression
     

  8. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2020
    Likes:
    866
    Location:
    midwest
    Over how many shoes.
     
  9. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2020
    Likes:
    90
    Location:
    Asia
    Dont know. Dont count it.

    Because i bet from shoe to shoe.

    I just record my statistic total bet, total win and total lose.

    That data from i play around 6 month.

    Sometimes in a day i just bet 3 bet. Sometimes 8 or 12, etc.

    1700 bet is like you play 25 shoe, bet every round with average 1 shoe is 70 bet dont have tie. I keep my record in excel
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2021
  10. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2020
    Likes:
    866
    Location:
    midwest
    In other words you're making virtual bets and would never play this way for real. I want to know what somebody does on one shoe on a real money basis. That's all that counts. And nobody here is speaking up so that tells me they have a hit rate very close to 50% and they totally depend on progressions.
     
  11. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2020
    Likes:
    90
    Location:
    Asia
    Are i say i am great ? Nope

    Because i flat bet with just plus 30 unit from 1700 bet.

    I admire @Punkcity play baccarat flat bet but with huge different result. He share his flat bet record in his own baccart thread
     
  12. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2020
    Likes:
    866
    Location:
    midwest
    You said you searched the fine print at online casinos and found a clause that said if they suspect you of using a betting system they have the right not to pay you. By betting system did they mean a progression. And where do you find this information I want to look it up in the state where I live. I can see every bet I've made at these casinos and so can they. It's easy to see if somebody's using a progression.
     
  13. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2020
    Likes:
    90
    Location:
    Asia
    You misunderstood what i said.

    What i mean 1700 bet is real bet with real money but from betting online live dealer. Just i keep my win lose record every day.

    So for around 6 month i bet everday. My right decison betting is around 51,8% and still make profit
     
  14. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2020
    Likes:
    90
    Location:
    Asia
    Dont know what to say. Because i already said it clearly. But u dont understand what i mean.

    I discuss about flat bet. But you say about progression and virtual bet
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2021

  15. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2020
    Likes:
    1,287
    Occupation:
    CEO, manager of sublease my account name.inc
    Location:
    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    Why would you play an entire shoe?

    Your selection criteria may not work with baccarat, whose to say because my selection criteria is far superior to your approach that it cannot be done?

    I’m on record as being a flat bettor ONLY

    I can and do achieve 52+% a session.

    Your inability to achieve a high precent return is because your selection criteria is being defective, that doesn’t mean everyone else is using your defective criteria. We are not obviously.

    A defective selection criteria in any table game will cause losses, will cause the potential need for negative progression, martingale etc.

    I have replied to you spike because you mentioned on a roulette thread that basically because you are unable to win at baccarat that it cannot be done. You present the VERY SAME useless arguments that the mathy and naysayers use against you and gizmo, turbo etc because of their inability to succeed at roulette. Therefore it cannot be done, you cuss at them for their ignorance etc yet you use the exact arguments, the exact show me how statements that you yourself refuse to answer.

    Read your opening post this thread you sound like poster craps, poster dietz, etc to name a few .

    Jimske offered an opportunity to discuss baccarat, you pooh pared him because of your closed mindedness, yet you claim on another thread no one is willing to discuss how to win at baccarat. He was willing to discuss. You also claim no one ever shown how they do it.

    You are correct in the last 2 months you have been spamming the threads no one has discussed baccarat or methods of winning.

    Prior to that there are numerous threads this forum. I know by your own statement various posts of “ I ( spike) don’t do reading, I don’t do homework”

    Fair enough , I understand you have time constraints , but because you are unwilling to do the research it basically shows how out of touch you are by creating a thread like this one . How out of touch you are in claiming that no one has given examples of exact game play , selection criteria, unit bet placement, % returns etc. just because you didn’t see it on the today post page. Lol.

    And while we are here ,
    no you have not given any play by play account of your roulette play , you have not shown a betting example of your roulette play as you have claimed you have. You made a claim no one has given a walk through of baccarat like your roulette method. You have not given one.

    I maybe mistaken and missed it. If you have , put the quote here. But I’m 99% sure you have not. You had qualified the reasoning with and I quote “I don’t have to prove anything to anyone”
    Yet
    Here you are demanding proof from baccarat players
    Rlmao.

    You want sensible dialogue, it can be done, you need to act accordingly. Don’t one minute say your not interested then go off half cocked because I called you out and start a thread like this to try and bully you point of view across yet again.

    You want to learn?
    I learnt r. r , why can’t I add an extra income stream to my portfolio? Where is the demarcation line stipulating that a crap player can’t play bj, a sic bo player cannot play roulette and succeed?

    What poppy cock.

    Perhaps you can’t succeed at baccarat, what’s the big deal ? I don’t care as it doesn’t detract from my income stream. I can and do succeed at baccarat, I can succeed at roulette also , I don’t go around rubbing your face in it. I have actually posted previously to support you and your posts re roulette on numerous occasions from those that attack you and your right to post you have an undisclosed “winner” roulette method.

    This despite the fact I think very lowly of you as a human being. This despite the fact I have you on unders.

    No perhaps you should have a rethink.
    Cheers
     
  16. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2020
    Likes:
    1,287
    Occupation:
    CEO, manager of sublease my account name.inc
    Location:
    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    I believe gizmo or sir anyone and junket king knows about that rule and have posted this forum on another thread, junket would be the one to ask.
     
  17. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2020
    Likes:
    1,287
    Occupation:
    CEO, manager of sublease my account name.inc
    Location:
    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    Incorrect, do some homework.
    To be in alignment with your own attitude “no one has to prove anything to you”

    But I will say this the information you want is written here on this forum, go look.
     
  18. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2020
    Likes:
    866
    Location:
    midwest
    NEVER SAID THAT!
    I win at Baccarat almost every time I play but I have such a small hit rate of about 52% that is just not worth it to me. It takes too long, too much back and forth win-lose win-lose just to make one unit. In roulette it takes no time at all to make one unit. In order to have a higher hit rate in baccarat I need more streams of information then just banker/player. People keep saying there are more streams but the ones they mentioned so far are worthless. I'm not a grinder, I'm not somebody who sits there and grinds out the wins in any game. I'm there to get it over with as quickly as possible.
     
  19. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2020
    Likes:
    866
    Location:
    midwest
    At 51% you're going to have a lot of back-and-forth of win-lose win-lose just to make a one unit profit. I can't play that way, I don't like gambling I don't like playing I just do it for the money. So if I can't get in and out quickly I'm not interested. I don't want it to say on my tombstone that he spent too much time of his life gambling.
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2021
  20. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2020
    Likes:
    1,287
    Occupation:
    CEO, manager of sublease my account name.inc
    Location:
    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    This from the rr thread.

    This is a fair statement, I understand it . I don’t and can’t criticise it as it is the poster ( spike) prerogative to try something, decide that the, selection criteria being used plus the % return and time factors make baccarat a non viable table game for him. This is the true Mark of a professional player.

    My issue is that he uses it as a reference to reason why no one else can succeed at baccarat, that’s the incorrect part. Imho. Cheers
     

Share This Page