Roulette What would you do ?

What would you do when you have a winning system? ( HG)

Attack the casino's?
Play online with multiple accounts?
Sell it ?
Create an app for people to use? (payed )
Nothing ?
Play a few sessions a month ?
Play all day long ?
....

Thoughts?
(Note: this is not a discussion if something like a HG exists)

 

I'm having the same problem. That's if it is a problem. Can you get banned from an online casino just for taking money out and not depositing much any more? I plan to hit the casino circuit next summer unless the casinos go back to being shut down. Part of me says just take a little and keep going for years and years and the other part says to go get all I can before they ban me or shut me down. That family that discovered biased wheels back in the 90's were allowed to march across Europe making millions before they were discovered. And they only had a 6% advantage at best.

 

My opinion and actions have always been - win enough to not raise concern with the casinos
for as long as you want. I suppose it's up to someone's own personal opinion though.
I know people who would rather hit it big quickly - that's just not how I am and it's never been
about money for me anyway, I've never been driven by that.
I had this discussion over the holidays with a family friend who asked the same thing.
You'll get plenty of answers that vary - to me though... take a small amount each time.
The rule I told my friend was to make daily more than he makes at his job. 60 units an hour
for a few hours a day accomplishes this and I gave him examples of how to do it.
It's a game, and if you play it right you can make a profit for a very long time with little effort.
Greed is a terrible thing and it destroys gamblers more than anything else.
Good luck with your question - you'll find out "about" the people who answer more than what the
best answer is for you though.

 

So I will ask it another way. If I use $5 chips to play both inside and outside at a B&M casino and win $500 a visit, two $250 session wins, then move on to only frequenting that casino twice per month then my experience tells me that they will hardly ever catch on. I could even make an extra $100 and go over to the Craps table just to lose it on purpose. I should be able to go on for years and years. Could you do the same for $1,000 per day out of two sessions?

 

That would be smart.
A lot depends on the person though - to some people winning big seems smarter to them, I don't see how.
Being banned doesn't mean you just move to another casino - the info is shared and you'll be banned from
everywhere. Where I am it's perfect with AC close to the east with a lot of casinos.... PA to the west with a
few good ones. Also online at GN with live dealers/wheel. A simple rotation of them has worked fine for me.
They don't know me and that's how I want it. Also losing on purpose like you said is smart too.
If you have a goose that lays golden eggs, never expose to them that you have this.
Even the unicorn hunter agrees, trust me. You don't advertise, you look like any other schmuck who just
got lucky and leave, they could care less. If you make it obvious you lose the game.

 

Could be wrong but I don't think that there is any HG out there which would be like shelling peas.
So the main focus should be on keeping things nice and professional.
My MO is to go in and get comfortable with the surroundings for 10/15 minutes before playing (have a cup of tea/coffee)
Play one session when you are at your sharpest. If you have the HG, it will be your day more often than not but learn to accept that for whatever reason things just aren't going your way.
When I am finished and more often than not, I like to have a celebatory meal just to unwind and it's a kind of reward for my efforts.
It's a kind of routine that works for me and so I stick by it and it kind of normalizes the whole thing. It's a bit like asking people what would they do if they won the lottery. A lot would blow it and go haywire changing their whole lifestyle.
Stay calm, stay focussed and remember a win is a win no matter what.

 

Denzie, you have to familiarise with the location you play. Check out what's the normal average betting for the b&m. Play at this normal average to remain under the radar. Try to change casino every odd day if you plan to play full time. Don't play online.

Create online apps with paid subscription is attractive but you require a trustworthy coder to work with.

 

That sounds good actually. Throwing 100$ chips while the others put 1$chips(for example) would probably get to much attention.

In your opinion...what won amount would considered being under the radar?

 

Milk the cow don’t kill it by greed! To me little and often more then large once or twice!

 

A little a lot!

 

Fortuna will always see to it that the cats tail will not grow too big .

 

Denzie I am happy for you if you have already achieved something stable to win each session!
Regarding what you ask, it depends on how you see it, whatever you do, you will always have people for and against what you do.
I see it in two ways, stay with your HG and play to earn enough to live well, without luxuries or excessive things, something like 100-300 units per day.
Or if what you want is that others benefit from your form and can generate income, you would make a software and deliver it for free, but the software would keep track of each time the software has been used, which customer has used it and how much money to win and would ask for a compensatory percentage for using the software, something like 20-30% according to the amount of the client's earnings, so it would help people to make money and you would earn money without any effort or wasting time in the casino.
That is my opinion and the software is my idea with something that I am also finishing, because I had a very big mistake in wanting to sell something and now everyone takes me as the bad guy and the thief without looking at the lack of respect and commitment of the other parts.
But my idea has always been and will be to help others make money and I also make a profit for them using my software and not having to spend my time at the casino, but rather with my family.

This is my idea, I know that because of the fame that some have given me it will not matter, but if I were you, I would help others, it will always feel good to do something good for others.

 

For roulette at my local b&m, the manual table min is usd4 inside number and usd20 for outside bet. To my observation if you keep to usd20 inside number should be ok.

In the public casino most people play table min. High roller casino, the table min is higher. And it's ok to place say usd500 for inside bet. Ofc you will get the attention of the gamblers and casino do check your background. So long as you act as if you are gambling trying your luck there's no problem.

 

If i had the hg I would be under the radar.

Fame and money don't give you anything if you have nothing to live for.

Make money to live comfortably, and enjoy life. Don't sell anything. Keep it to yourself and/or like turbo guide others in the right direction.
Fame will get you killed. So would greed

 

@TurboGenius, if you play in AC a lot then you know, Jimmy McGee? He has been playing since AC began and always the same method, pen and paper in hand. They know what he is doing, and even named the players club after him originally.
"Diamond Jim's, now the Laural lounge at the Tropicana. He plays at every casino in town, so I know you know of him. Chain smoking, suspenders wearing, gentleman. He is treated well at every casino he plays at. They know exactly what he is doing and have no issues with him. I also play daily at the AC properties for many many years straight, not including covid, at least 4 days a week, and have no issues. I have gotten to know the staffs and have asked the employees that have some higher position and are career employees, about this exact question and all of them give the same General responce. They don't know of any roulette player that has ever been banned, unless caught cheating. I agree not to rub your success in their faces, but you can't hide from the advanced casino security that is always watching. They know you are there from the second you arrive. I know one guy that has ended up in the Griffen book, and has been banned from all table games because of his Blackjack winnings. He wasn't even an actual card counter in the traditional sense, but always won, and won big.
During an invitation BJ tournament just before the pandemic, I was playing in, I had a conversation with an important person who was overseeing the event. He said there is absolutely no way to hide from the security, impossible. They know everything and every person that walks in the joint. He also reiterated that he doesn't know anyone that has been banned fron a casino in regards to roulette, and again, unless caught cheating.
Interestingly enough, the guy that is in the book, has been recently aloud back in the casino, and they allow him to play any machines that he wants. He plays high denominatiion video poker at a 125$ per hand. The casinos reached out to him and invited him to the BJ tournaments to spite his banned status, apparently because you can't gain an advantage in tournament style play.
All I'm saying is that this paranoia that is always discussed means nothing as far as I have experienced and I win.
So my advice is that before most chaps should worry about being banned, first worry about being a consistent winner.
That is not a knock on anyone's skill as much as it is friendly advice. You don't need any undo pressure on top of already trying to battle to casinos.
As an aside... I was talking to a dealer on Christmas Eve, and he told me that a crew just came through town and scalped the casino ( Trop in this case ) cheating the new " live dealer / electronic betting" craps table. They hit them for 60k somehow and rolled out before the casino could figure out how they were able to do it. Also the Trop was hit much less by this crew than the other casinos in the area. I say, GOOD. Not for the crew, but for the dealers that are seeing their futures being constantly threatened by these attempts to reduce the staff by way of technology.
This is my opinion based on my regular experience. I hope it helps ease the worrying.
For me, so far, so good.

 

Good job Denzie, hope you wreck them as you deserve it. It feels damn good to win every day, that's for sure, but surprisingly it does get boring.

In just six weeks of daily play, despite winning every session (I target +100 to +200 units), I now am starting the dread it. I've never been one who "likes" the casino environment, it's annoying frankly, and you'd think that finally having a winning solution would overcome this ("time to visit the ATM" and all the other cliches people say), but the truth is it's not the first real money I've ever made in life so the impact of it isn't life-changing.

I've thought about this the last few days, but what I'll likely do is just up the base unit dollar amounts I play and reduce the amount of times I go to say 2-3 times a week. There's no threat to the bankroll and the method is sound enough to pass my own simulated tests, tests I had programmed, and now live play for nearly two months.

For me I think that's the best solution because I really dislike being there any longer than I have to, and online isn't an option for me as it's difficult to make it happen where I live (would need a solid VPN, crypto, etc, and at any time if you're caught using a VPN in a barred state the online casino WILL keep your deposit, period.)

But I also want to thank you, Turbo, and others who kept preaching the "repeater" mantra, and all the posts they made, because the solution was there this whole time...just have to test different theories until you find YOUR best version, then run with it.

Cheers to all and Happy New Year!!

 

@Mako can't like that post yet. But I like it lol.

 

I love you Turbo !! I'd love to meet you someday or have an autograph of you, would you send me a message ?
About what you ask Denzie, I would suggest like Turbo said, stay under the radar, be discreet, don't play too big chips, don't use the same casino too many days in a row (just a few days), don't stay too long either, don't be greedy, the idea is to look like a casual and fun roulette player, maybe loose sometimes. but always stay in control of your emotion and careful with casino cause they know how to make you loose control... set limits and a square around your play. don't play tired... keep track of time too.
About the app, there are many app for roulette already, but why not making one that helps keep track of stats for the numbers. I hired a developer 2 years ago to create one for myself, I keep improving it still. But I don't want to make it public at the moment and might just keep it for myself. Would you create an app that really tell your strategy ? I don't think an app can really do that since each player really play differently and a machine can't replace human's decisions...

 

I also think about an app really telling the method to win or writing books about the randomness of the roulette should have the OK from turbo before release since he is really the creator of all this.

 

For now I'll continue to play online and in B&M ...and as Mako suggested use bigger chips to avoid being in a casino every day because I don't like it either. It's fun when we play now and then but on a daily basis it really gets boring . So I might choose the tables with higher minimum bets and play once or twice a week.....I'll aim for 1000-1500€/week.

That's enough for me at the moment.