Roulette Why Do Dozens Have More Series Hits Then Singles????

Helloooooo

To me it looks like a twilight zone occurrence, in 1024 spins there will be 456 singles on dozens (totaling 456 spins) and there will be 228 series totaling 568 spins.

How can series total more spins then singles???

It seems there is a force in roulette which pulls random to fall more on dozen series then singles but WHY the odds should be the same for both stats. As with ECs where the total singles spins equals the total series spins.

What am I not seeing correctly? why does random favor dozen series, maybe I am just missing something obvious.

Go to win-maxx (.com) and click on statistics then on The Appearance Of Dozens And Columns to see this stat as I pasted it below but the figures wont align correctly

Perhaps this occurrence/pull can be used for an advantage some how?

Any thoughts?


In 1024 consecutive spins all three dozens together will form 684 figures:

456 single-units 456 figures 456 spins

and 228 series of which are:
series of 2 153 figures 306 spins
series of 3 51 figures 153 spins
series of 4 16 figures 64 spins
series of 5 6 figures 30 spins
series of 6 or higher 2 figures 15 spins
total 684 figures 1024 spins

 

So there are twice as many singles as there are any other condition which is at least a double. But it takes two spins to make a double. The odds differences are that two events are exposed more to the zero or double zero twice as many times as the singles are.

You can't use long form, large number, statistics to make bet selections and expect them to work for you in your favor for short term events. You must use coincidence and randomness.

You can also use wishful thinking, magical thinking, or ESP.

Hope that helps some.

 

Here, let me show you something. A lot of people are trying combo bets these days. A combo bet is when you combine a sleeping dozen or a patch of singles in one dozens group like the dozens with another group's singles or sleeping dozen in the columns. So if you suspect that the sleeping dozen on one group wont hit and the singles in the other group won't hit then you can leave out the last hit in the singles and the sleeping dozen in the other. So instead of betting all 24 numbers in one group you get to leave out 8, 4 from each sleeping or single that wont hit from both combined groups. So your combo bet is 16 numbers.

Now I will show you four groups that I track simultaneously while I play. I only use combinations when at least two groups are showing strong signs of continuing.



I had a strong sign of a sleeper in the 0 6 3 group where the 0's were sleeping. I also had a strong sign of singles streaking in the 1 2 3 group at the same time.

 

Hello Giz! (I posted this before reading your last reply)

Great to have you reply. Thank you for your explanation and after 11 years of researching I will never use wishful thinking!

What I am not getting is this

when a dozen lands, longterm there will be more hits on the same dozen then not ie a single this is what the longterm stats show.

In the stats above there were 1024 spins 456 of which were part of singles and 568 which where part of series. This might as well be 1024000 spins in which case there will be 456,000 single spins and 568,000 total series spins, longterm this will hold.

Why do the series spins have the upperhand and what is creating this? You mention the zero but this impacts singles and series the same amount for each are generated spin by spin and we are not dealing with 2 dozens to 1. By this I mean for every spin the odds that 1 of the 3 dozens land is the same but series have a large lead in hits/total spins and the zero impacts both sides just as much. If I understand your explanation correctly then the zero if anything would decrease the amount of total series spins.

Why is random pulled to the series? and why do we not see this with ECs? In ECs total singles spins is the same as total series spins the odds are 50/50. With dozens the odds are just different with 33%. Each dozen has a 33% chance of landing with each spin that occurs but series have a lot more hits ie total spins. To be clear I do not mean the total amount of the series that appeared but the total amount of spins these series add up to.

Perhaps I am just missing the obvious or not getting my point across well.

Looking forward to insights!

 

When a double, triple, quad etc... ends, do you count the change as a single? If it becomes a double etc... dose it go uncounted?

 

I would consider looking at this in a different way. The definition of a useful single is the next result is different than the one before it. And the definition of a not single is that it is the same as the result just before it. Forget about triples, quads, etc... Now what kind of balances do you get?

I don't want to build a sim just to test this.

Anyone else?

 

Except for the zero there should be twice as many singles as there are repeats. It's 33%, 33%, 33% So it's 66% that a single will happen and 33% that a repeat will happen.

Here is the problem exploiting this. You don't know which other dozen to bet on in order to take advantage of this. It all balances out as a nothing burger.

 

Giz,

When a double triple ect ends and is followed by another double triple etc it is not registered as a single it is registered as a series followed by a series. I will get into the other aspects you talk about soon but wanted to stay on the focus point for a bit hope you dont mind.

The stats at win-maxx are precise, in 1024 spins 456 spins will be singles and 568 spins will be part of series, WHY is this? 55% of the spins are a dozen followed by the same dozen and 45% of the spins are of a dozen followed by a different dozen. WHAT in random creates this uneven "pull" as it should not be there. The reason it should not be there is this

following is a sequences of dozens 1 2 3

3
2
3
2
1
1
1

above we see 4 singles followed by a series totaling 3 spins
with each spin the odds remain the same each and every time, there is a 33% chance that ANY of the three dozens will land
BUT the stats show that series have more total spins ie more spins show a dozen followed by the same dozen then followed by a single dozen

here is another visual example

1 3 1 or 2 1 3 1 happens less the 2 2 2 or 3 3 (a dozen followed by the same dozen) BUT how is this possible?

How can it be that 55% of the time we see a dozen followed by the same dozen AND 45% of the time we see a dozen followed by a different dozen.

BOTH events have the same chance of happening 33%

2 2 HAS THE SAME CHANCE OF HAPPENING AS 2 1

BUT THE STATS SHOW THAT A DOZEN FOLLOWED BY THE SAME DOZEN HAPPENS MORE THEN A DOZEN FOLLOWED BY A DIFFERENT DOZEN

and with this I dont mean series of 2 have the upper hand

it means that the total number of spins of all the different length series put together are 10% more then all the single dozen appearances when each event has the same chance of happening/appearing

what goin on : )

thanks for your time eveyone

 

I disagree. What you see is 5 singles followed by back to back doubles.

It's a lost cause. There is no secret that has been overlooked for more than 200 years.

 

Well the stats say

In 1024 consecutive spins

456 single-units 456 figures 456 spins

and 228 series of which are:
series of 2 153 figures 306 spins
series of 3 51 figures 153 spins
series of 4 16 figures 64 spins
series of 5 6 figures 30 spins
series of 6 or higher 2 figures 15 spins


so 3 2 3 2 1 1 1 counts as 4 singles (4 spins out of the 456 single spins)) and 1 1 1 counts as one of the 51 figures of a SERIES of 3 or 3 spins of the 568 total series spins

not 5 singles the first 1 that appears can only be counted as part of the series of 3 stat and not also part of the single appearance stats

I am not saying we have a edge here after 200 years I am asking what force is pulling series spins to be more then single spins for the reasons I mentioned

If there is something to this force/pull then possibly we can apply it in a different manner

 

The stats are wrong.

3, 2, 3, 2, 1, = 5 different results without a repeat. It's after a second spin in a row that the stats claim the 5th spin.

You don't get to bet on the spin after the next one during the next spin. It's just mathZombie mumbo-jumbo like "deja vu all over again."

 

What was the number being hit in each of these reported individual dozens and what type of wheel o or o/00 .Dealer operated or RNG?


Thanks.




ND

 

With the follow the dozen method there is no interruption during a betting series and no sleeper of a dozen either.
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Except 3 losses in a row is tine to go.

 

Giz you said It's after a second spin in a row that the stats claim the 5th spin.

Thats correct.

I am not looking at a bet here after dozen 1 appears I am looking at why the series total number of spins registered is more then the singles after 1024 spins or after 1024000 spins.

The total number of series spins should be the same as the total amount of single spins, reason being we are just dealing with 3 dozens and on every spin each dozen has the same chance to land so why is it that for some reason series spin total is more then the singles?

When dozen 1 lands the odds of dozen 1 2 or 3 landing next are the same but the total amount of series spins indicate that dozen 1 is more likely to fall. Their is no straight up bet here according to the stats, that gives an edge but perhaps if we can figure out why the same dozen lands more then the OTHER 2 dozens we can create something...........


Hello ND!

It doesnt matter what numbers were hit in each individual dozen and it also doesnt matter if its a single 0 or double zero wheel, longterm the total amount of series spins will be more then single spins check the stats above, but WHY?

 

You are a match zombie and stuck . Best to ignore this cat .

 

A KNOW NOTHING.

 

Th is topic is of no value and should whither on the vine .

 

ND!

Wasnt expecting that man.

Can it hurt to look into somethin?

Perhaps a better visual is this

The following represents proportianaly 1024 spins (or even 1024000 spins)

568 series spins next to each other 222333311122222221133332211112211113322111333322211
456 singles spins next to each other 1323121232312132121323231323131231213

as you can see there are 10% more series total spins the single spins

WHY?

 

AMK
I see why you ask this question ,and to your defense it is not a easy thing to put down as well as your anderstanding of it so dont get frustrated for the lack of anderstanding.
at win-max if you look at the stats for ec bets and series you will notice the exact same thing.
in other words singles are a much smaller portion in terms of spins as series are. and maybe that can shade some light into this . one could look at it and think" lets forget about singles and just "follow" the first hit and we should win flat betting ! but unfortunately it wont work just following series to the end because the last bet of a serie , even know we call it still "part of a serie bet' it could as well be "part of a single or just a single as well. just like with dozens ,same thing, even know we would name that last dozen part of the serie it is really a "nutral" dozen. think about it ; if betting a serie dozen of 3, the first 2 spins would in the way qualify the serie for being PART OF THE 3 SPINS serie , but in reality that third spin ,(last dozen of the serie) is as much part of the serie as part of the single dozen since it produces a "partial serie/single" type bet.
but we placed it in the "serie'category and it is confusing .
so even know series eat up more spins overhall ,it is only because we make that last spin of the serie part of the so-call "serie" but could of as well be a "neutral', or a half .
the fact they get more spins is simply that reason . if you were to take out the last bet of any serie we would have a tottaly different stat.
I wonder why there are not more explanations about it and maybe the lack of explanation has probably enriched casinos with millions and could be why.
you have ask a question that I would bet you many have wonder "why" but never verbally made it know for the fear of being called idiots or something, filled with big egos .
I appreciate you bring that up friend, hope that helps a little.
Cheers
Rinad

 

Hi,

Will try to explain this WHY with statistics.

The total is 1024.

The singles is 456.
The 2 or more is 228 unique, with the numbers of 568 spins.

When we count 2 or more, it itself start from 1 unique single, so 456 + 228 = 684 number of streaks of 1 or more..

That's 684 / 1024 = 66.7% = 2/3.

For long streaks of 2 or more, total spins of 568. The 568 less 228 (1st spin of long streak) = 340.

340 / 1024 = 33.2% = 1/3.

The maths is resolved.